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RE: Peg Pile-on (songs forum edition)
2005/08/28 16:54:20
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Thanks, Jeff. With a little nudging I was able to get the original track to drop right, temp's right and everything. Note to others, I had to truncate at 1:01:028 and shift left to get it line up in sync, this is the usual mp3 front end gap. edit: offset is corrected
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RE: Peg Pile-on (songs forum edition)
2005/08/28 16:55:46
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Hey Jeff,
What in your opinion is the best, most realistic sounding, piano pluggin on the market.
Thks.
Troy
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RE: Peg Pile-on (songs forum edition)
2005/08/28 17:26:49
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I had to truncate at 1:01:08 thanks ed .. maybe i'll start using wmv for this purpose from now on .. and my timing on the clav and rhodes needs to tighten up .. mr fagen would not like it ;-) jeff
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RE: Peg Pile-on (songs forum edition)
2005/08/28 17:28:30
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ORIGINAL: reallifer
Hey Jeff,
What in your opinion is the best, most realistic sounding, piano pluggin on the market.
Thks.
Troy
for regular piano .. i have the PMI Bosendorder P290 .. which i use a lot .. but i like the sound of "The Old Lady" better for most usages. Also, the pianos which come with the Dimension synth in P5 are quite good as well. jeff ps: I still use the P250 yamaha piano the most though.....
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RE: Peg Pile-on (songs forum edition)
2005/08/28 18:01:26
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Wow, I forgot the tempo on this one. Seems a faster than the original tempo, but maybe not.
Looking forward to mixing it. Maybe we can do a whole album full of SD tunes.
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RE: Peg Pile-on (songs forum edition)
2005/08/28 19:19:37
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the sheet i've got says 117.. so that's what i used... but that's maybe how they
wrote it and did it different in studio.
jeff
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RE: Peg Pile-on (songs forum edition)
2005/08/28 19:29:56
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the sheet i've got says 117.. so that's what i used As I mentioned above, this is the exact tempo, I dropped the original into the project and just a wink and nudge and it lined up perfectly. I wanted to hear the original bass line to get some of the subtleties.
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RE: Peg Pile-on (songs forum edition)
2005/08/28 20:11:00
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Oops. My bad. I quickly skimmed through the posts and missed it, Ed.
It just seemed a bit faster than what I had remembered. Then again, now that I am older, things seem to be faster now that I am slower tempo-wise.
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RE: Peg Pile-on (songs forum edition)
2005/08/28 20:17:24
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BTW.... Do you guys want me to use the Chaz-meister flare when mixing the tracks or stay true to the original mix?
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RE: Peg Pile-on (songs forum edition)
2005/08/28 20:23:07
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It just seemed a bit faster than what I had remembered. Then again, now that I am older, things seem to be faster now that I am slower tempo-wise. I hear that. That bass line is faster than I remembered it too! 
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RE: Peg Pile-on (songs forum edition)
2005/08/28 20:27:52
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ORIGINAL: ed_mcg
Note to others, I had to truncate at 1:01:08 and shift left to get it line up in sync, this is the usual mp3 front end gap.
Ed you sure about this? I had to truncate at 1:01:028 and then slide left. Lines up perfectly with the click. I even bounced PingDXI to an audio track so i could check it visually. Am I missing something or is there a typo in your post?
post edited by SteveD - 2005/08/28 22:05:07
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RE: Peg Pile-on (songs forum edition)
2005/08/28 21:02:36
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ok .. we're going to do a pile-on cover of Steely Dan's "Peg" ... since
everybody sounded game ... so saddle up .. should be fun... I am interested in doing horns. However, the next few days are definitely not doable. Obviously, since our band does this tune, it would not take me long to lay down a quick sax part. To do a full section--and do it right--however, would require more time. I'm trying to balance some priorities, so lemme think about it, ok?
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RE: Peg Pile-on (songs forum edition)
2005/08/28 21:48:51
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Am I missing something or is there a typo in your post? Yes, you got it right. I fixed my post to avoid confusion.
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RE: Peg Pile-on (songs forum edition)
2005/08/28 23:20:46
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I know - I always have an additional question!
But, what's our goal here? Are we just doing a copy? (Chaz made me question it with his question about mixing.)
Dang, now I gotta re-learn that solo!
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RE: Peg Pile-on (songs forum edition)
2005/08/29 01:15:40
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But, what's our goal here? Are we just doing a copy? (Chaz made me question it with his question about mixing.) you may take as many liberties as you wish with your given instrument ... i did already on mine ;-) but, given that ed's flyin in a day or two .. i thought i'd keep it pretty straight up.... but you should the hear the "green earings" version i'm working on .. *waaaay* out here ;-) jeff
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RE: Peg Pile-on (songs forum edition)
2005/08/29 22:12:09
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Is it just me? I've unpacked the bundle twice, and even though my default is set to 48 KHz / 24-bit, the bundle opens as 44.1 / 16.
We've agreed to do this 48 / 24, right?
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RE: Peg Pile-on (songs forum edition)
2005/08/29 22:33:45
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ORIGINAL: M
Is it just me? I've unpacked the bundle twice, and even though my default is set to 48 KHz / 24-bit, the bundle opens as 44.1 / 16.
We've agreed to do this 48 / 24, right?
Actually... the bundle is empty except for a tempo map and markers. Import the tracking beds of your choosing at 48/24, truncate the clip(s) beginning to 1:01:028, and slide the clip(s) all the way to the left to line up with the click. Track away.
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RE: Peg Pile-on (songs forum edition)
2005/08/30 00:51:02
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Actually... the bundle is empty except for a tempo map and markers. True, Steve! But, when I open it, I see my Sonar status bar change from my default 48 / 24 to 44.1 / 16. And, of course, if I import after that, I'm at 44.1 / 16. I'm still on 3.1.1 PE, so maybe that's an older behavior, but that's what's happening. Actually, at this point, I have my project all sorted out, and set up at 48 / 24 (it was simple enough to just start fresh) -- I just wanted to confirm with everyone that that's what resolution we're working at.
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RE: Peg Pile-on (songs forum edition)
2005/08/30 11:02:08
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ORIGINAL: M
Actually... the bundle is empty except for a tempo map and markers.
True, Steve! But, when I open it, I see my Sonar status bar change from my default 48 / 24 to 44.1 / 16. And, of course, if I import after that, I'm at 44.1 / 16.
Check to insure new project defaults are set to 24/48
Open the CWB
Save it as a CWP before importing audio
Close and reopen the CWP to apply the project defaults
You are now at 24/48 and ready to import and track.
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RE: Peg Pile-on (songs forum edition)
2005/08/30 11:27:30
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actually, since the audio track doesn't contain anything, i believe it will default to whatever your settings
in the "Option->Audio" dialog are set to. if i'd have thought about it more, i should have included the click count
as in the bundle as an audio track and then it wouldn't have been a problem .. but .. i was trying to save
download time for people.
jeff
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RE: Peg Pile-on (songs forum edition)
2005/08/30 11:33:27
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ORIGINAL: jmarkham
actually, since the audio track doesn't contain anything, i believe it will default to whatever your settings
in the "Option->Audio" dialog are set to. if i'd have thought about it more, i should have included the click count
as in the bundle as an audio track and then it wouldn't have been a problem .. but .. i was trying to save
download time for people.
jeff
I thought it was a good idea. I learned some things from this approach. 
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RE: Peg Pile-on (songs forum edition)
2005/08/30 12:32:39
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Hey guys...
I downloaded the all beds track, but with my geetar freshly tuned to A 440, I'm not in tune with the track...
Has anybody else noticed this or is it something on my end?
RLD
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RE: Peg Pile-on (songs forum edition)
2005/08/30 15:36:27
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RLD, I haven't noticed the tuning discrepancy, and the .mp3 I used seems to be in tune with the original recording (which I also imported, for reference, into my project). Hey, man, let me know what you're going to do on this, and I won't work so hard!  M
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RE: Peg Pile-on (songs forum edition)
2005/08/30 15:39:37
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Check to insure new project defaults are set to 24/48
Open the CWB
Save it as a CWP before importing audio
Close and reopen the CWP to apply the project defaults
You are now at 24/48 and ready to import and track. Hmm, well, I'm already "fixed," but the only thing I didn't do (per your list) was to close the project and re-open it, before importing anything. Maybe that would have done the trick; but it wasn't a major issue, regardless. So, the answer must be, "Yes, M, 48/24." That's all I was really after! But, thanks!
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RE: Peg Pile-on (songs forum edition)
2005/08/30 15:40:12
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Hey, man, let me know what you're going to do on this, and I won't work so hard! I was thinking about putting a costomized 32nd note solo over 60% of the song....
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RE: Peg Pile-on (songs forum edition)
2005/08/30 15:41:14
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Sorry... Yes, M, 48/24!
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RE: Peg Pile-on (songs forum edition)
2005/08/30 15:41:23
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Cool, man! Now I can lay out!
Margaritas, anyone?
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RE: Peg Pile-on (songs forum edition)
2005/08/30 15:44:09
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Well, once I get all of the tracks from Jeff, I guess it will be up to me to decide what goes and what stays, right?! 
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RE: Peg Pile-on (songs forum edition)
2005/08/30 16:24:38
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Well, once I get all of the tracks from Jeff, I guess it will be up to me to decide what goes and what stays, right?!
so you think you're Gary Katz now
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