Richard Fey Would you mind putting that in language that makes sense? Can you elaborate a little? It means that Sonar's automation could be improved, and that some people find this to be a more important thing than a new plugin.

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vampire slayer or vampire's slave?

This thread is having a lot of posts to be off topic. I wish y'all would stop the off topic posts. Cakewalk my move this thread or lock it. Then, it might not get as much attention from Cakewalk as it could get.

If users keep posting that they are having envelope issues, it may cause Cakewalk to place the envelope issuess at a higher priority and Cakewalk may look at improving the feature.

plush303

And I guess that maybe I'm not the only user in this situation.

Fret Wizz


From the SONAR help file:

"A multi-layer layer track has only one set of track automation envelopes."

Could that be the source of the problem?

mike_mccue

Richard Fey

And I apologize for being dragged into the fray over their efforts.

It might be more appropriate if you apologize for pointing fingers and making accusations indiscriminately.

You're pointing in my direction and you are misinformed.

It might be helpful if you assign your accusations to particular parties rather than a blanket condemnation of those of us who choose to point out Cakewalk's persistence in not fixing these bugs.

You have provided a useful workaround to a BROKEN FEATURE. Thank you for that.

Will you process an official problem report?

best regards,
mike

I can only point out that this is how I reacted to your post(s). My suggestion that you be more specific does not suggest that you were specific... and that was my reason for reacting.

It feels like they are trying to squeeze every last cent of of each of us before as individuals we just stop upgrading. It's a weird strategy. Maybe it's there best option? I like what Celemony just did. They made me a promise. I bought in to their program. They were honest about being unable to deliver on time... but they insisted on maintaining a standard of quality... and apparently have done what it takes to deliver the goods. Thanks for setting a high standard Celemony. Cakewalk is acting as if they have abandoned the DAW as an open appliance (which comes with universal expectations of usability and quality) and are racing themselves to define a new product category... namely and all in one instrument that seems intended to be a band in a box for "emerging customers". I wonder if they know they are trying to compete with Garage Band? When they could have been a Pro Tools killer. It's a strategy that seems to be turning off existing customers faster than it's capturing emerging customers. Learning recently that the excuse is that it is too hard to fix glaring problems makes it obvious that the current marketing strategy is to hide the problems behind a new layer of new add ons. The envelope debacle is a case of Cakewalk having delivered a broken product... the product is broken... it was not delivered to paying customers in good faith... anybody that chooses to work around this while cheering Cakewalk on for their latest efforts will eventually be sold out, disregarded, and treated as disrepectfully as those of us who currently recognize that delivering and NEVER FIXING a broken product is unacceptable. Bummer. When people gang up to complain about people like ourselves who complain... they bolster and enable Cakewalk's ability perpetuate this pattern of delivering broken products and they encourage Cakewalk to repeat the pattern of abandoning any commitment to fixing problems that they have already sold us. best regards, mike

mudgel


What a weird thread?

Started out about clip envelopes and then went somewhere else. As I said ; Weird!