Pragmatism/Manuals

I hear ya on the PDF manual subject. There's no-way i can read one of those things for more than a couple of minutes without getting dizzy with eye strain. The first question i ever asked on this message board was "does p5 come with a paper manual?" Thankfully, the reply was yes, but if it had been no then i might not have bothered with it. Shallow, but true i'm afraid,

personally,

i'm a paper waster. i upgraded to the full version of V-Sampler and printed out the 160 pages of manual. the stories on V-Sampler being so convoluted led me to believe i never w/just a PDF.

have a good one
3Eo

Sorry to drag the conversation down chaps.

no worry. we'll just flush the thought and get out the lavender air freshener.--non-aerosol of course.

have a good one
3Eo

This is in reply to the person who started this thread, not to J2eeGeek76

Who cares? But I'm now on the edge of my seat waiting to hear the next exciting life revelation you come up with, because after all, the world does revolve around you. Here's one I'm biting my nails waiting to find out: Which way do you load the toilet paper - down or up? While you're pondering your most likely grandiose and self-absorbed answer, please tell us what these issues have to do with Project 5? If nothing, then please take them elsewhere. Thank you!

When i grow up, i wanna be a member of the forum police squad too.

peace.

BTW my name is (of course) not Bob. But it's sad to hear that you guys are willing to waste time, energy, and bandwidth (albeit very little of the latter), on non-P5 topics. Why not create a "free" section so you guys can discuss these all-important topics ad nauseum, while those of us who are really focused on P5 can get the information we need without all of this wasted time reading through these types of inane threads?

And while we wait for the all-important announcement from Mr. 3EE regarding the TP direction, (I continue to be sleepless and on the edge of my seat in anticipation; after his TP announcement, maybe he'll start a thread on paper versus plastic grocery bags), I will put my vote in for downward facing - just the way I've always done it. I'm sure upward facing may have advantages, but I'm just too set in my ways at this point.

Meanwhile (and sorry to get "off topic"), I am really looking forward to finding out more about P5V2, especially how the guy who designed Z3ta will figure in to the suite of softsynths and samplers that will come with the new version of P5.

ORIGINAL: blipp
Hey, i am too, but paper vs plastic grocery bags is an important subject too you know.

kill a tree dig up a dinosaur

ORIGINAL: woodaputty

BTW my name is (of course) not Bob. But it's sad to hear that you guys are willing to waste time, energy, and bandwidth (albeit very little of the latter), on non-P5 topics. Why not create a "free" section so you guys can discuss these all-important topics ad nauseum, while those of us who are really focused on P5 can get the information we need without all of this wasted time reading through these types of inane threads?

And while we wait for the all-important announcement from Mr. 3EE regarding the TP direction, (I continue to be sleepless and on the edge of my seat in anticipation; after his TP announcement, maybe he'll start a thread on paper versus plastic grocery bags), I will put my vote in for downward facing - just the way I've always done it. I'm sure upward facing may have advantages, but I'm just too set in my ways at this point.

Meanwhile (and sorry to get "off topic"), I am really looking forward to finding out more about P5V2, especially how the guy who designed Z3ta will figure in to the suite of softsynths and samplers that will come with the new version of P5.

i agree somewhat as a lot that gets posted here could be posted in the coffee house but your waste of energy and bandwidth and sophomoric altitude in pointing this out to the forum is a waste of my time and anyone who reads your post. your condescending attitude i guess goes along with that megalomaniacal intelligence that you possess. the guy's name is Rene. your lack of respect towards Rene and the people who post here is what is sad.

A troll in the P5 forum. I can't believe it.

and I'm the one with no respect?

Yes, you *are* the one with no respect. You can't incorporate yourself to an already-formed community and criticize the community itself, especially when you're not contributing with any useful info yourself.

We are not tech support. We are not here to answer your questions, although we surely will if we can. We are just a bunch of people who happen to have one thing in common: Project-5 (or, in my case, PSyn), but that does not restrict the topics to P5-only. If you don't like a topic, stop reading it.

In fact, the original post by 3Eo *is* related to P5. He explained how he found a way to get some use out of PDF manuals, and he may have thought that info could be useful to someone else in the community. Not you, obviously, but maybe someone else will also try gathering their manuals in a single folder and take advantage of it.

Now, about your questions about P5v2, this is the best we have so far:

http://www.cakewalk.com/Press/Project5v2_DataSheet_FM.pdf

There it says that PSyn-2 will now have an fx section (possibly thanks to Rene), and that there will be a new megasynth from rgc:audio. Doesn't say much about it but so far we know that it has 4 oscillators which can be sample-based or analog-modelled. From the picture you can see it also has some complex envelopes and modulation options. I really wish that picture had better resolution.

Signatures, like pictures, logos, and avatars indicate immaturity and an inflated sense of self-importance, many times exhibited by those going through some type of mid-life crisis.

Guilty as charged....

rabeach - not talking about your picture. If you think about my screen name, you'll most likely figure out what picture I'm talking about.

DA - nice reply - I'm chilled - honey works so good, doesn't it. Much better than vinegar or lemon.

Others - I think it was me who started the toilet paper reference as an analogy in my first post.

Others again - Thanks for the info on P5V2. I've been interested in and followed P5 almost since its inception, via Cakewalk's site and this forum. Never bought because of high CPU usage reports, and a few other niggles. But I'm really psyched about V2.

Others again - most likely no-one cares about my picture, but it will come down when the offending picture I mention comes down. At that time I will also be willing to have admins erase all my posts, as well as my entire profile. I will then re-register under a different name with no picture. In other words, if I haven't made my point by now, it won't be made.

Sincerely,

woodaputty

You "da man"!

By the way -- I also have printed some manuals, including the entire Sound Forge 8, Vegas 6, CD Arch, and DVD Arch PDFs. That gets EXPENSIVE.

Not when it's the nice big expensive printer at work! hehe

being the new year i generally try something new to help organize my life more.
well, on my laptop i decided it was time to have a Manuals folder and i slapped this smack dab in the middle of the C: drive.
the thing about the manual situation is, i love paper manuals and hate PDF's and HTML's. I hate them so much i have to be totally desperate to use them.
anyways i gathered all the manuals and help files for all of my software instruments and FX and poof, i, through the wonders of digital magic--not to be construed as sampling moved them to the new folder.
now that i know exactly where they are, i have used them more than anytime in the past 3yrs.

There are good pdfs and bad pdfs. Propellerheads, Native Instruments make great PDFs in my opinion. Cubase's manual is nice as well.

P5's manual is a bit disorganized for me. It places very little focus on sequencing (that's probably just my opinion).