Presonus Faderport with latest Sonar Platinum

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2015/04/21 15:53:32 (permalink)

Presonus Faderport with latest Sonar Platinum

Yeah title says a lot, does it work without problems?
 
Faderport is a pretty simple and straight forward device so I guess it should "just" work... but I know it's an aging device...
 
I'm aware of the manual driver validation process with command prompt and I don't care going through it, as long as it work flawlessly...
 
Any happy users?
 
If none, which simple device could do a similar job without quirks?
 
Thanks!
post edited by Dyonight - 2015/04/21 15:59:42

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    Re: Presonus Faderport with latest Sonar Platinum 2015/04/21 16:12:29 (permalink)
    It works and it's pretty decent as is.  However, you may be interested in my post from earlier today regarding the FaderPort and AZ Controller:
     
    http://forum.cakewalk.com/AZ-Controller-has-made-the-FaderPort-awesomeAlphaTrack-is-on-the-way-m3209687.aspx
     
    The other comparable single fader device would be Frontier Design's Alphatrack.  It seems to be the more popular of the two in this forum.  I have both and I personally prefer the FaderPort's simplicity and elegance but the Alphatrack has a lot more features.  The Alphatrack is no longer in production and is no longer supported but you can find a used one from time to time on eBay.  It's another device that may be brought back to new life with the AZ Controller, also mentioned in the linked post above.
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    Re: Presonus Faderport with latest Sonar Platinum 2015/04/21 16:19:29 (permalink)
    I'm using it with Sonar Platinum with absolutely zero issues. One problem though, I've been using it so long that the paint wore off the buttons and I can't tell which one is which. Kidding...
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    Re: Presonus Faderport with latest Sonar Platinum 2015/04/21 16:47:17 (permalink)
    As long as you read all the documentation on the PreSonus site about using it with SONAR, it works.

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    Re: Presonus Faderport with latest Sonar Platinum 2015/04/21 16:54:40 (permalink)
    Awesome thank you all! Looks like the Faderport deserve a test drive!
     
    Thanks watercourse I'll definitely give the AZ controller a try!
     
     

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    Re: Presonus Faderport with latest Sonar Platinum 2015/04/21 16:59:51 (permalink)
    FaderPort works fine for me. Easy to set up and mostly reliable. The Midi in/outs need to be reset every now and again from within Sonar but that's easy enough and not a big deal for me.

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    Re: Presonus Faderport with latest Sonar Platinum 2015/12/05 20:09:22 (permalink)
    I just purchased a PreSonus Faderport and I can't get it to work at all in Sonar Platinum. I've been to the Presonus site and did all their instructions to no avail. It must be some preference setting that I don't have set correctly. Is this an issue Sonar Tech support could help me with on the phone? I have some snippets of my Preference settings but I can't figure out how to upload them in this reply. Appreciate any help you can give.  

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    Re: Presonus Faderport with latest Sonar Platinum 2015/12/05 20:15:08 (permalink)
    Milton
    I just purchased a PreSonus Faderport and I can't get it to work at all in Sonar Platinum. I've been to the Presonus site and did all their instructions to no avail. It must be some preference setting that I don't have set correctly. Is this an issue Sonar Tech support could help me with on the phone? I have some snippets of my Preference settings but I can't figure out how to upload them in this reply. Appreciate any help you can give.  

    I'm not sure what OS you're using but watch this video. It fixed mine.
    http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=w--ExBYbbNk#
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    Re: Presonus Faderport with latest Sonar Platinum 2015/12/05 20:55:03 (permalink)
    Watched your video link and is the same as the PreSonus web site instructions. I can get it to show up in preferences and all midi settings are the same as in video but still doesn't work. I'm running Windows 10 and Sonar Platinum Jamaica Plain. Here's the PreSonus instructions http://support.presonus.c...ion-for-Cakewalk-Sonar
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    Re: Presonus Faderport with latest Sonar Platinum 2015/12/05 21:04:51 (permalink)
    In preferences, make sure channel aftertouch is enabled.
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    Re: Presonus Faderport with latest Sonar Platinum 2015/12/05 21:08:49 (permalink)
    I'm running windows 7, so I don't know about windows 10. Also, make sure you have both the AC adapter and the USB plugged in. I know it sounds stupid, but my faderport came unplugged once and I couldn't figure out why it wasn't working right.
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    Re: Presonus Faderport with latest Sonar Platinum 2015/12/05 21:19:45 (permalink)
    Yeah!!!!!! I fixed it. Turns out all I needed to do was exit Sonar when I was done setting up the preferences and then re-open Sonar and Wholla!  (I did have to re-check Aftertouch settings though) But all is OK now. Thanks for your input Leadfoot. Glad you were on line to direct me to the video you recommended.
    post edited by Milton - 2015/12/05 21:31:50

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    Re: Presonus Faderport with latest Sonar Platinum 2015/12/05 21:35:35 (permalink)
    Glad to help!
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    Re: Presonus Faderport with latest Sonar Platinum 2016/02/11 19:57:10 (permalink)
    I've been thinking about adding one of these for use with Sonar Platinum.
    I figure it might be time to upgrade a bit from my Korg NanoKontrol, while still maintaining a compact profile
    (My DAW desktop is getting a bit cramped since I added a 61-key controller!)
     
    I'm currently running Windows 8.1, but anticipate upgrading to Windows 10 in the near future.
     
    A few questions for folks that already use the Faderport - 
    1. Are there any control functions on the Faderport that do NOT map correctly for use in Sonar?
    2. Can the motorized fader be used as the Master volume fader AND for individual track volume faders & automation?
    3. Any issues with Windows 8.1 or Windows 10?
    Thanks in advance!
     
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    Re: Presonus Faderport with latest Sonar Platinum 2016/02/11 20:31:44 (permalink)
    Hi RR. 
     
    1. No.  All of the buttons work. Mapping of the customisable buttons is also very straightforward. 
    2. Yes. Pressing the output button assigns the fader to the first bus output.
    3. No.  It works in all windows versions. 

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    Re: Presonus Faderport with latest Sonar Platinum 2016/02/11 21:36:48 (permalink)
    Awesome -
    Thanks tenfoot!
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    Re: Presonus Faderport with latest Sonar Platinum 2016/04/09 23:01:05 (permalink)
    Need to resurrect this thread, folks.
     
    I've had the Faderport for quite some time and initially used it as a transport control, but since day one I haven't been able to use it to write automation very well.  I set the automation mode to Touch and I'm always able to get a first pass with no problems.  But if I want to go back and redo a pass, SONAR's automation always jumps back to the previous pass if I'm trying to "hold" the fader at a certain level. Once I move the fader again, SONAR corrects itself and writes automation back to the appropriate level.
     
    The "Touch" button on the Faderport lights up whenever pressure is placed on the fader, and it's pretty sensitive so I don't think it's the Faderport causing the problems because that button stays lit throughout the entire pass, even when I'm holding it at a certain level.
     
    I've tried enabling/disabled the "Read" parameter during passes, thinking that perhaps reading automation while writing it is causing problems when I'm holding the fader in one place, but that hasn't made any difference.
     
    Seems several people are using the Faderport in SONAR without any issues...are you successfully using it for multiple pass volume automation like I've described? If so, any ideas on what might be happening?

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    Re: Presonus Faderport with latest Sonar Platinum 2016/06/09 14:44:13 (permalink)
    ** crickets **
     
    Yeah, so, am I correct in assuming that I'm the only one who's experienced this? Any ideas what I'm doing wrong? Or, could other Faderport users attempt to replicate and let me know?
     
     

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    Re: Presonus Faderport with latest Sonar Platinum 2016/06/09 16:59:23 (permalink)
    I'll check into it later tonight (west coast USA time). I will report back to you what I find.

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    Re: Presonus Faderport with latest Sonar Platinum 2016/06/09 17:19:19 (permalink)
    That would be great, thanks!

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    Re: Presonus Faderport with latest Sonar Platinum 2016/06/09 17:33:01 (permalink)
    If you install my controller: http://www.azslow.com/index.php/topic,163.0.html , I can assist you to find the reason of your problem (may be solve it, even in case it is your specific device bug).
     
    Note, it is not that I ask you to install "add-ware" for help Unlike with original plug-in, it will be possible to see what exactly is going on in respect to MIDI messages exchange and logic. From your description, I can guess that "Touch" signal is "unstable". Even if you see the light is always "on" while you are touching the fader, it can happened that it periodically sends "off/on", too fast for led flickering but sufficient to instruct Sonar to reset the value.
     
    (do not forget to remove FaderPort plug-in from Sonar Control Surfaced when using my plug-in and remove my plug-in before inserting FaderPort back, they do not work in parallel. Also I remember that fader port power cycling is may be required when changing plug-ins).

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    Re: Presonus Faderport with latest Sonar Platinum 2016/06/09 19:24:11 (permalink)
    azslow3
    If you install my controller: http://www.azslow.com/index.php/topic,163.0.html , I can assist you to find the reason of your problem (may be solve it, even in case it is your specific device bug).
     
    Note, it is not that I ask you to install "add-ware" for help Unlike with original plug-in, it will be possible to see what exactly is going on in respect to MIDI messages exchange and logic. From your description, I can guess that "Touch" signal is "unstable". Even if you see the light is always "on" while you are touching the fader, it can happened that it periodically sends "off/on", too fast for led flickering but sufficient to instruct Sonar to reset the value.
     
    (do not forget to remove FaderPort plug-in from Sonar Control Surfaced when using my plug-in and remove my plug-in before inserting FaderPort back, they do not work in parallel. Also I remember that fader port power cycling is may be required when changing plug-ins).




    I checked out the page but I am a little confused about the actual installation process....do I still go through the command prompt/setup as recommended by SONAR documentation? It's my understanding that those steps are necessary for the Faderport to even be recognized in SONAR.
     
    (I actually uninstalled Faderport recently so I'd be starting from scratch...there are currently no drivers installed.)
     
    What you're describing sounds accurate...that the Faderport is sending on/off information even if it's indicating that it's still writing Touch automation.
     
    I didn't mention this earlier, but there doesn't appear to be a problem with SONAR itself in regards to writing automation. If I record an automation pass using my mouse, then record another pass, SONAR maintains my automation value until I release the mouse, then it jumps back to the previously existing level, just as it should.
     
    I'm thinking about picking up the X Touch (even though it's frustrating that one has to ignore the button labels printed on the unit since they execute other commands within SONAR), but the main purpose would be to write multiple lanes of automation simultaneously, so I'm trying to determine if there's just something wrong with my Faderport, if there are things I'm not doing right in regards to setup, or if this type of behavior is to be expected with control surfaces within SONAR.  I've seen some grumbling about limited support for control surfaces on this forum so wanting to figure out what's realistic before potentially dropping $600 on the unit!
     
    Anyway, thanks for the info...we'll see what happens.

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    Re: Presonus Faderport with latest Sonar Platinum 2016/06/09 20:25:15 (permalink)
    azslow3
    If you install my controller: http://www.azslow.com/index.php/topic,163.0.html , I can assist you to find the reason of your problem (may be solve it, even in case it is your specific device bug).
     
    Note, it is not that I ask you to install "add-ware" for help Unlike with original plug-in, it will be possible to see what exactly is going on in respect to MIDI messages exchange and logic. From your description, I can guess that "Touch" signal is "unstable". Even if you see the light is always "on" while you are touching the fader, it can happened that it periodically sends "off/on", too fast for led flickering but sufficient to instruct Sonar to reset the value.
     
    (do not forget to remove FaderPort plug-in from Sonar Control Surfaced when using my plug-in and remove my plug-in before inserting FaderPort back, they do not work in parallel. Also I remember that fader port power cycling is may be required when changing plug-ins).


    Wow! Is this still in development? I had no idea it existed.
     
    EDIT: This is awesome! Thank you! I've got it installed and working :-)
    post edited by PilotGav - 2016/06/09 21:30:14
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    Re: Presonus Faderport with latest Sonar Platinum 2016/06/10 01:59:42 (permalink)
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    If you install my controller: http://www.azslow.com/index.php/topic,163.0.html , I can assist you to find the reason of your problem (may be solve it, even in case it is your specific device bug).



    I checked out the page but I am a little confused about the actual installation process....do I still go through the command prompt/setup as recommended by SONAR documentation? It's my understanding that those steps are necessary for the Faderport to even be recognized in SONAR.

    1) From Faderport manual http://www-media-presonus...rt_OwnersManual_EN.pdf follow 2.2.1 (Quick Start up)
    2) From 2.2.8 (Sonar Setup), follow 1, then 5 and 9 (which is really 6). DO NOT follow 2-4.
    3) Then follow AZCtrl general installation instructions. In video form: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Baoo0-CysSI , follow till "Startup" preset selection in AZCtrl (you need "Faderport" preset)
    4) After "Faderport" is selected, click "Create preset" in the dialog and the installation is complete (Faderport should work with Sonar).
     
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    Wow! Is this still in development? I had no idea it existed.

    As you can see, I am still alive and active

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    Re: Presonus Faderport with latest Sonar Platinum 2016/06/10 09:59:06 (permalink)
    Below are the steps that were not in the Presonus documentation, but were necessary in order for SONAR to recognize the device. Are those steps still required? 
     
    https://www.cakewalk.com/...-SONAR-Control-Surface

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    Re: Presonus Faderport with latest Sonar Platinum 2016/06/10 11:25:57 (permalink)
    Another great alternative - and seldom mentioned anymore - is the Roland VS-100 (Discontinued, but shows up on Ebay now and then.  I just snagged one in "like new" condition last week for $100).
     
    In addition to the usual DAW controller functionality (100mm motorized fader, transport, etc), the other half of the unit is a full-fledged audio interface.  It can serve as a backup interface -- or your main one if you don't require a lot of I/O -- and since it's from Roland, it supports ACT, for tight integration with Sonar.
     
    Finally, and this sets it apart from the others.... Official Windows 10 support!  (Oddly, none of the rest of the VS-family got the same treatment - as you VS700 owners are well-aware!).  This seems to suggest that they view this unit as more in line with their popular Quad/Octa-Capture interfaces which, of course, also have Win 10 support. 
     
    So far I'm having a lot of fun with this baby.  The sound and the low-latency of the interface is fantastic -- so much so, that I'm now looking strongly at the Octa-Capture.... 
     
    Darn, I knew that $100 was just a bait and switch! 
    post edited by JonD - 2016/06/10 14:28:01

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    Re: Presonus Faderport with latest Sonar Platinum 2016/06/10 14:18:36 (permalink)
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    Below are the steps that were not in the Presonus documentation, but were necessary in order for SONAR to recognize the device. Are those steps still required? 
     
    https://www.cakewalk.com/...-SONAR-Control-Surface

    No. These instructions are for updated version of "native" plug-in. AZ Controller is working instead of it.

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    Re: Presonus Faderport with latest Sonar Platinum 2016/06/10 22:07:29 (permalink)
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    That would be great, thanks!



    So I finally tested this out and I experienced the same problem in "Touch" mode. However I can successfully make new passes and overwrite new automation without things going crazy while in "Latch" mode.
     
    I open up the "Inspector" view by pressing "I". Then I select "Tracks". Down a little ways under "Automation" you can switch the mode to "Latch".

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    Re: Presonus Faderport with latest Sonar Platinum 2016/06/11 04:04:44 (permalink)
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    streckfus
    That would be great, thanks!

    So I finally tested this out and I experienced the same problem in "Touch" mode. However I can successfully make new passes and overwrite new automation without things going crazy while in "Latch" mode.

    Latch mode exists for using not touch sensitive controls for overwriting automations. In such case "Touch sensitivity" of the fader is more or less ignored (except it does not "fight" with the finger).

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