Anderton
But the main feature CV has that TV doesn't have is the assignable FX faders. That's huge for real-time mix performances.

I'd never seen that before. I notice that you mentioned it in your SOS review of Sonar 3, 12 years ago. :)
 
Again, purely from a personal point of view, I'll never use this. I might try and add some real-time automation at the mixing stage, and when I do, it'll be for about 10 minutes per song, once per album, to tweak vocal delays or the like. So that's about half an hour per year. I currently do this with the individual plugin open in track view anyway - where it's easier since I can see the waveform and plan the automation, and I will usually end up editing the automation curve manually in track view, so console view adds nothing for me. Even if I did consistently use this feature at mixdown time, it wouldn't justify me hiding away key parts of the FX and instrument chain in Console View during the rest of the production process.
 
Re: making fine adjustments - the shift key works for me. Maybe not as instantly intuitive but it doesn't require a whole new GUI view to use.
 

I find both CV and TV to be very useful, which is why I like the D command so much.

I did try Console View in the multidock for a while, after it was suggested in one of our previous discussions on this issue. But it doesn't really help - it's just duplicating what I already have on-screen in a format that doesn't even fit adequately into the space provided. Maybe if I ever get a 4K monitor it would work well, but until then, if I have to scroll vertically to get the job done, I may as well stay in Track View and do it there. :)

to add to this thread i have a question, what is the signal flow? input>fx bin>pro channel>output or input>pro channel>fx bin>output...and i am guessing all is post fader?
regards peter

To answer OP, I do a hybrid, in which I use several elements of the PC, then create a FX chain (originally created in the fx bin), then drag it over to the PC and place where it makes most sense.  I agree it is a bit weird, but it works as I want it too giving me plugins of my choosing (often Waves) and the nice PC modules I enjoy.

not sure if you guys understood my question...the audio signal, does it go through pc or fx bin first that is what order is the signal passing through an example would be a compressor on the fx bin and the quadcurve on the PC what which gets hit first?

IT'S SWITCHABLE

peter47
not sure if you guys understood my question...the audio signal, does it go through pc or fx bin first that is what order is the signal passing through an example would be a compressor on the fx bin and the quadcurve on the PC what which gets hit first?

it defaults to pc then fx bin, but there is a pre/post button that will make it fx bin then pc . the button is located just below the pc channel preset window at the top of the channel strip

Sanderxpander
Additionally, as was already said, you can put regular VST FX at any position between ProChannel modules by inserting an "FX Chain" module.

 I began inserting an FX Chain Module in my default ProChannel layout, and this began to re-train me from using FX Bins and more to PC. It's now become workflow and I don't find myself debating where to put those VSTs ( I can relate with what the OP said..I used to hesitate on that).
 
Also, somewhat related....I've taken to using a simplified workspace with no inspector or browser open by default. Clean, simple..un-cluttered. When I need to see PC, hit "I" and it's there....insert whatever FX are needed. Same with the "B" browser shortcut. This goes a long way toward making me feel less assaulted by visual noise...and more creative and relaxed in navigating SONAR :)