tanuki_x
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RE: Project5 Development Ending
2009/05/07 12:28:28
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Project5 was cool while it lasted. For active development, there is always REAPER.
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RE: Project5 Development Ending
2009/05/07 12:42:35
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ORIGINAL: tanuki_x
Project5 was cool while it lasted....[/url].
Its completely gone now?....No, wait,..its still on my hard drive...  I didn't realize that since project 5 is no longer being developed, that we are unable, or not supposed to use it anymore... 
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RE: Project5 Development Ending
2009/05/07 13:49:17
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Wow as other have said I'm a bit sad that development has ended on P5, and I am a bit disappointed with the crossgrade offer to Sonar 8, its no different than my offer from Sonar 3 but whatever the Bakers have to make their money. I had a feeling this was coming a while back so I took the plunge and bought Ableton Live, which was the closest thing I found to P5 and I love its ability to use multicore CPU's which I didn't think was going to make much of a difference but it totaly does , I would have upgraded to Sonar 8 but for me I didn't feel the Interface was there yet, who knows maybe Sonar 9 will be right for me. Now I just have to find a way of bribing the Bakers into making PSYN a vsti
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auxlen
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RE: Project5 Development Ending
2009/05/07 18:38:02
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i bought p5 a few days ago...OOPS.
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RE: Project5 Development Ending
2009/05/07 18:38:20
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If I recall, Psyn appeared as a VSTi in Live -- Live was the only host I could get it to show up as a VSTi. Try scanning it in Live.
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RE: Project5 Development Ending
2009/05/07 18:46:05
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wow, what a crappy decision to end the development of such a great tool. All it needed was multicore so we don't have to keep freezing tracks. Even if they had to just make a patch to fix the coding to allow multicore to take effect....it would've been a treat. Cakewalk is loyal to their customers? That's a load of BS. They are too in love with their slutty Sonar. Sonar is the creator of Audio Dropouts....while Project5 was the creator of a 'new thinking' when it comes to Daw/soft synth hosts. Doesn't really affect me anyways....since i torrented it off the net. And i did that with a sense that this will happen. And boy, what a good decision I made. It took Cakewalk over 3 years to write that little paragraph. Let me use an analogy here. Sonar is that little insecure whore you see on the streets of downtown at night. It has **** load of flaws but covers itself with makeup (bloated amount of synths and effects) to make it look pleasing to all the horny DAW-men out there. Sonar already has STD (Audio drop-outs) but i hope it will get AIDS soon and die. 
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RE: Project5 Development Ending
2009/05/07 18:46:55
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ORIGINAL: auxlen
i bought p5 a few days ago...OOPS.
As has been pointed out, it'll always work. The reason we're so peeved is that it's been abandoned within sight of the finish line, so to speak. It's a really great creative tool, and it's a shame that it hasn't been and won't be updated to take advantage of current computers/OSes, and to add or improve a few simple features which would have made it pretty much perfect. Give it a try. If it's the right tool for you, you'll get a lot of use out of it, at least for a long while. The only real worry is future OS compatibility. I don't know if anyone's tested it with Windows 7, though it runs well in Vista.
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candlesayshi
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RE: Project5 Development Ending
2009/05/07 18:48:38
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ORIGINAL: agincourtdb
I don't know if anyone's tested it with Windows 7.
It runs fine in Windows 7, at least x86. I haven't tried x64.
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Brando
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RE: Project5 Development Ending
2009/05/07 19:06:11
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ORIGINAL: CareyLetendre
ORIGINAL: JoMal
Is there any chance the source code could be handed over to the open source community so that it could be further developed by anyone so inclined? I know it's probably not that simple, but just wondering.
+1
If Cakewalk truly cared about the community they would do as described above.
Carey
Yeah and if GM really cared about its customers they'd give us all a new Pontiac. They aren't going to give away code that they can use in other software programs including, likely, SONAR. They don't owe the "community" anything. It's a business - buy or don't buy.
Brando
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Brando
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RE: Project5 Development Ending
2009/05/07 19:10:53
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ORIGINAL: Rafsan
...Doesn't really affect me anyways....since i torrented it off the net. And i did that with a sense that this will happen. And boy, what a good decision I made. It took Cakewalk over 3 years to write that little paragraph.
Let me use an analogy here. Sonar is that little insecure whore you see on the streets of downtown at night. It has **** load of flaws but covers itself with makeup (bloated amount of synths and effects) to make it look pleasing to all the horny DAW-men out there.
Sonar already has STD (Audio drop-outs) but i hope it will get AIDS soon and die.
Keep getting your software through cracks and illegal downloads and your PC is likely to do the same. SONAR is a great app - maybe your cracked version wasn't all that.
Brando
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Rafsan
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RE: Project5 Development Ending
2009/05/07 19:18:25
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ORIGINAL: Brando
Keep getting your software through cracks and illegal downloads
Will do SIR! BTW. I have a quad-core with 4 gb of ram even though only 3.25 or so is recognized. But even then, my PC is going strong as ever. If i get a virus, I just reformat..no biggie. Too bad I can't say the same about Cakewalk. And another thing, it's not a cracked version of sonar that I used....it's the shelf version ...with a used cd-key
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Russell.Whaley
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RE: Project5 Development Ending
2009/05/07 21:00:48
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ORIGINAL: Brando
They aren't going to give away code that they can use in other software programs including, likely, SONAR.
They don't owe the "community" anything. It's a business - buy or don't buy.
They'll have to reconstruct if they do - P5 uses a different code base than Sonar, and they can't just cut and paste.
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Brando
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RE: Project5 Development Ending
2009/05/07 21:33:32
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ORIGINAL: Russell.Whaley
ORIGINAL: Brando
They aren't going to give away code that they can use in other software programs including, likely, SONAR.
They don't owe the "community" anything. It's a business - buy or don't buy.
They'll have to reconstruct if they do - P5 uses a different code base than Sonar, and they can't just cut and paste.
Of course - but I mean logic not specific code. Hopefully they wouldn't just try to cobble in P5 code into their flagship. That doesn't mean that elements such as the Groove Matrix couldn't show up there after re-coding. It's still theirs. Why would they give it away?
Brando
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Brando
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RE: Project5 Development Ending
2009/05/07 21:35:53
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ORIGINAL: Rafsan
ORIGINAL: Brando
Keep getting your software through cracks and illegal downloads
Will do SIR!
BTW. I have a quad-core with 4 gb of ram even though only 3.25 or so is recognized. But even then, my PC is going strong as ever. If i get a virus, I just reformat..no biggie. Too bad I can't say the same about Cakewalk.
And another thing, it's not a cracked version of sonar that I used....it's the shelf version ...with a used cd-key
Reformat your happy little life away. Oh - and check the license agreement on that "shelf version" of Sonar you're running, Mr. Clean.
Brando
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rabeach
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RE: Project5 Development Ending
2009/05/07 21:38:17
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roland down the river...
I believe that the future holds cakewalk by roland doing an about face over the next few years moving towards a proprietary hardware based solution and ceasing pc support. :-)
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agincourtdb
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RE: Project5 Development Ending
2009/05/07 22:16:18
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ORIGINAL: rabeach
roland down the river...
I believe that the future holds cakewalk by roland doing an about face over the next few years moving towards a proprietary hardware based solution and ceasing pc support. :-)
Here's why I think you're wrong (even assuming I have money for something like the VStudio. Or any other non-native hybrid solution that Roland/Cakewalk can come up with): I already own plenty of DSP power in the form of a purpose-built computer. I already hold a Sonar license. I already own a soundcard with audio and MIDI ins I already own a control surface (though I never use it, I've discovered I'm a mouse man) All of which were chosen carefully to reflect my workflow and what capabilities I need. How does Cake convince me to sell all of that (at a loss) and then (paying far more than what I would pay to replace what I had 1-for-1) buy a comprehensive solution that is likely both a) to have features I don't need, and b) to not have features I do need, because it was designed to appeal to the most average user they could hypothesize.
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rabeach
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RE: Project5 Development Ending
2009/05/07 23:53:14
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that would be a tough sell, i don’t see how they could. :-)speculation is what it is. what ever that may mean...it speculation has not been very productive for me so far. but it is entertaining. i’m thinking it probably comes down to where their largest profit margin lies. where ever that may be. i'm guessing with hardware right now. there is still a lot of good to be said about small business models. certainly a lot to be gained from larger models too. it is a strange world. i’m not happy about the dropping of p5 but it is what it is.
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Trusty
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RE: Project5 Development Ending
2009/05/08 00:57:15
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Roland gear depreciates very, very quickly.
Cakewalk cheapens their gear to the point that I would never buy anything "new" from them again, and should I change my mind and stay upgrading my Sonar every now and then, soon enough I will have all their "new" products because eventually, they all get packaged in Sonar.
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RE: Project5 Development Ending
2009/05/08 02:09:04
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ORIGINAL: Rafsan
They are too in love with their slutty Sonar...It has sh*t load of flaws but covers itself with makeup to make it look pleasing to all the horny DAW-men out there.
Sonar already has STD (Audio drop-outs) but i hope it will get AIDS soon and die.
No wonder I kept getting ear-rex-shuns when I used Sonar...WOW![sm=kiss.gif] [sm=rolleyes.gif]
post edited by MurderDethKill - 2009/05/08 02:17:56
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VaporCom
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RE: Project5 Development Ending
2009/05/08 10:36:19
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ORIGINAL: Rafsan
wow, what a crappy decision to end the development of such a great tool. All it needed was multicore so we don't have to keep freezing tracks.
Even if they had to just make a patch to fix the coding to allow multicore to take effect....it would've been a treat. Cakewalk is loyal to their customers? That's a load of BS. They are too in love with their slutty Sonar. Sonar is the creator of Audio Dropouts....while Project5 was the creator of a 'new thinking' when it comes to Daw/soft synth hosts.
Doesn't really affect me anyways....since i torrented it off the net. And i did that with a sense that this will happen. And boy, what a good decision I made. It took Cakewalk over 3 years to write that little paragraph.
Let me use an analogy here. Sonar is that little insecure whore you see on the streets of downtown at night. It has **** load of flaws but covers itself with makeup (bloated amount of synths and effects) to make it look pleasing to all the horny DAW-men out there.
Sonar already has STD (Audio drop-outs) but i hope it will get AIDS soon and die.
Wow....Strong anger issues. I also am sad to see it go. I have been more disapointed by the lack of communication Cake showed one of there most loyal support groups. Wait a second, nope, no lip marks on my arse. Should have been in communication with us long ago. Still a bit unhappy about that. On a positive note DA nailed it. I paid a bit more than $150, when it was like $380, but for all the years I got, all the knowledge I learned from it and this forum, and the fact that it still works just fine, good deal in my mind. Cake, thanks for the software. I still want to kick you in the junk for ignoring us....but best of luck.
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CareyLetendre
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RE: Project5 Development Ending
2009/05/08 14:11:14
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ORIGINAL: Rafsan
Doesn't really affect me anyways....since i torrented it off the net. And i did that with a sense that this will happen. And boy, what a good decision I made. It's because of idiots like you that P5 got the axe.
post edited by CareyLetendre - 2009/05/08 14:19:50
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Rafsan
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RE: Project5 Development Ending
2009/05/08 14:45:41
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ORIGINAL: CareyLetendre
It's because of idiots like you that P5 got the axe.
And idiots like you will always throw money down the drain on products that can't be trusted.
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VaporCom
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RE: Project5 Development Ending
2009/05/08 17:25:54
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Rafsan I have came hear for along time. Can't ever say I remember you contributing anything, or any of your music. But, now all of a sudden your upset, and because your stolen software is no longer being developed. You are some kind of a$$-hat. Go suck at life elsewhere.
post edited by VaporCom - 2009/05/08 17:36:03
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xylyx
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RE: Project5 Development Ending
2009/05/08 17:39:31
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You should see his post over on the Orion forum, kicking off about how Cakewalk rip people off and aren't loyal to their customers. Wonder why he's so upset when he isn't one of their P5 customers...it also makes you wonder whether he has bothered to buy Orion or found some way to justify getting that for free too.
Anyway, been a while since we had a troll around here, so I guess we were due another one...
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CareyLetendre
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RE: Project5 Development Ending
2009/05/08 18:43:21
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ORIGINAL: Rafsan
ORIGINAL: CareyLetendre
It's because of idiots like you that P5 got the axe.
And idiots like you will always throw money down the drain on products that can't be trusted.
There is absolutely no justification for your actions. Carey
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RE: Project5 Development Ending
2009/05/08 19:48:01
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Project5 had by far the smoothest, most versatile interface. Less is more, which is something these other companies just do not understand. I got p5 in 2004, and it has been literally all ive needed to make beats since. (besides soundforge for editing wav files). Sonar is a clumpy mess which i only use for recording lyrics on the beats i make in p5. I say, if it isnt completely dedicated to music creation, im not makin beats with it. If you guys dont create a new program in the future based largely off P5, im movin to image-line. And thats a sad day in hell.
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RE: Project5 Development Ending
2009/05/08 19:56:01
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ORIGINAL: VaporCom
Rafsan
I have came hear for along time. Can't ever say I remember you contributing anything, or any of your music. But, now all of a sudden your upset, and because your stolen software is no longer being developed. You are some kind of a$$-rod. Go suck at life elsewhere.
Fixed that
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kb420
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RE: Project5 Development Ending
2009/05/08 21:26:39
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So this is it. Finally some closure on the development of P5. Wow! It sure took long enough for Cakewalk to finally admit what most of us had come to accept as the truth. P5 could have been just as big as Reason or Live with periodic development. What a waste! I'm glad I jumped ship when I did. It wasn't easy switching from P5's workflow to Sonar's and then Live's, but it was well worth it. I like to know that the product that I am using will continue to grow and stay current with support and development. P5 never really had that. It is what it is!  These are my next two purchases:   Ableton Live 8 Suite. Akai APC 40 Akai MPC 5000 with OS2. Ultimate workflow. No limitations.
"Now, excuse me while I jump into my Jaguar; I need to board my private jet for the usual weekend trip to my mansion on the Big Island. I think Trixie, Crystal, and Heather are already there...must not keep them waiting in the hot tub!" -Craig Anderton-
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Rafsan
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RE: Project5 Development Ending
2009/05/08 21:58:33
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ORIGINAL: VaporCom
Rafsan
I have came hear for along time. Can't ever say I remember you contributing anything, or any of your music. But, now all of a sudden your upset, and because your stolen software is no longer being developed. You are some kind of a$$-hat. Go suck at life elsewhere.
If you wanted to hear some tracks i did, all you had to do was ask. Well, here's the link www.myspace.com/sevengreenlights I'm not upset at all really. To me it seems like all the name calling like 'a$$-hat, a$$-rod' just makes you seem pretty low, since i'm not really the first one to strike out at someone i don't even know with such profanity. Go suck at life? HAHA that's a good one....i won't even touch on this to embarass you, since i'm very satisfied with my life. Music is just a hobby of mine, hence i don't blow hundreds of dollars on software. You go ahead and ride the bandwagon of all those who get taken advantage of by the music industry and software companies. They like to throw the fishing rod with a bait inside your pocket...and your wallet takes the bite. Who's the sucker in the end? For me, learning synthesis and the technical side of sound engineering was what hooked me into this. And why should knowledge have a monetary value put on it? Which is why i download programs and tutorials & i learn how to design my own sounds, learn the programs inside/out, synthesis, mastering, etc. And in the end, i keep the knowledge in my head and i lose nothing but gain quite alot really. So you go right ahead and say what you will to me. To me you're just another of many forum people whom i'll never meet in real life. Peace
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darlomrh
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RE: Project5 Development Ending
2009/05/09 03:12:51
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Rafsan: Why are you here? I get that you think Cake are bunch of rob-dogs but you haven't parted with your hard earned cash, so why should you give a... that Project 5 development has ceased. And why should knowledge have a monetary value put on it? Why should Software Developers/Hardware makers release the products they have spent years in R&D etc for free? Last time I checked Cakewalk was not a registered charity. Cheers
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