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QuadCurve - very annoying bug?
Hi all, When I make changes in QuadCurve sometimes (more and more often!!) it makes the changes on ALL my QuadCurve instances. If I f.ex. change the HP filter freq, it will change all HP filters on all QuadCurves with the same amount. I then need to go through ALL HP filters in my 50+ tracks and change them back, because you cannot undo this! Very frustrating. I am now doing this third time in my evening session. Has anyone else experienced this? or could this be by design that I trigger somehow without knowing it? I don't experience this on any other ProChannel modules. Help would be very appreciated.
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Re: QuadCurve - very annoying bug?
2016/06/15 16:27:38
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Is it possible you have grouping engaged?
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Re: QuadCurve - very annoying bug?
2016/06/15 16:35:35
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John Is it possible you have grouping engaged?
I don't have any grouping on QuadCurve.... btw this doesn't only happen for HP filter, other settings too f.ex. changes the values in one of the bands.
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Re: QuadCurve - very annoying bug?
2016/06/15 16:35:39
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Or are holding the Ctrl key and going quick grouping?
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Re: QuadCurve - very annoying bug?
2016/06/15 16:46:53
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Anderton Or are holding the Ctrl key and going quick grouping?
That would require all tracks to be selected right? I was very careful to not select all tracks because I thought that might be what triggered this, but still I encounted the problem. The last time it happened this evening was actually when I was doing automation on HP filter on a track (and not fiddling with the QuadCurve directly) - I hold the Ctrl key while dragging an entire envelope, and that's when All HP filters changed along with it - that's even more strange.... Is it possible to disable quick grouping? just to see if that's what caused it.
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Re: QuadCurve - very annoying bug?
2016/06/15 17:30:13
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No it wouldn't. Ctrl is a quick group. If you adjust something while holding the ctrl key it will apply to all like instances.
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Re: QuadCurve - very annoying bug?
2016/06/15 17:34:54
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From page 1074 of the manual; To use a Quick Group Do one of the following: To adjust the same control in all tracks. Hold down the CTRL key and adjust a control in a track that is not selected. SONAR automatically adjusts the same control in all other tracks. To adjust the same control in selected tracks. Select the tracks you want to adjust, then hold down the CTRL key and adjust a control in any selected track. SONAR automatically adjusts the same control in all other selected tracks of the same type.
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Re: QuadCurve - very annoying bug?
2016/06/15 17:35:10
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John No it wouldn't. Ctrl is a quick group. If you adjust something while holding the ctrl key it will apply to all like instances.
I just tried it on a test project....quick group doesn't work unless you have the other tracks selected. At least I can't do it!
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Re: QuadCurve - very annoying bug?
2016/06/15 17:42:35
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John From page 1074 of the manual; To use a Quick Group Do one of the following: To adjust the same control in all tracks. Hold down the CTRL key and adjust a control in a track that is not selected. SONAR automatically adjusts the same control in all other tracks. To adjust the same control in selected tracks. Select the tracks you want to adjust, then hold down the CTRL key and adjust a control in any selected track. SONAR automatically adjusts the same control in all other selected tracks of the same type.
Ah! I need to unselect the track and yes it worked (when everything is unselected). It's possible that's what I encounter. But it's still strange that this also applied when I edited an automation envelope while holding Ctrl down (my post above). You don't want to change other instances values when doing automation on a single track. That's not the intention.
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Re: QuadCurve - very annoying bug?
2016/06/15 18:04:49
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I don't know if this is the same issue but I have had a long standing problem with the Quadcurve in which certain bands are randomly boosted on every track. For instance I might be working on a project and all of a sudden the Lo-Mid band on every track is set to 70Hz and boosted by 15dB, regardless of where it was before.
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Re: QuadCurve - very annoying bug?
2016/06/16 11:24:10
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English is not my native language. Apologize for any mistakes in the text.
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Re: QuadCurve - very annoying bug?
2016/06/16 11:35:33
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I missed that post until you just mentioned it. I have seen this but never delved into why. I also rarely use PC because of the once bitten, twice shy phenomenon (as alluded to in the other thread).
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Re: QuadCurve - very annoying bug?
2016/06/16 11:53:17
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Re: QuadCurve - very annoying bug?
2016/06/16 14:30:56
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Well... I cannot reproduce the OP. But.. I have been experimenting with the bug reported above and have found that Envelopes and Quick Groups do not play well together at all.
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Re: QuadCurve - very annoying bug?
2016/06/16 14:55:13
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Base 57 Well... I cannot reproduce the OP. But.. I have been experimenting with the bug reported above and have found that Envelopes and Quick Groups do not play well together at all.
I can't either...it happens only sometimes as I described.
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