Noel Borthwick [Cakewalk]
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Questionnaire: Realtime Waveform preview on buses and instrument tracks
SONAR has a unique feature that allows you to view waveform previews in realtime during playback on Instrument tracks and buses. (Not to be confused with waveform preview while recording on audio tracks) This feature can be useful during mixing or drawing automation. I'm curious how many users take advantage of this feature or what you use it for. I would appreciate it if you could answer this brief questionnaire. 1. Do you use the waveform preview feature? A. Wasn't aware of this feature B. Aware of it but never use it C. I use this feature often D. I use it occasionally 2. Do you use this on buses or instrument tracks? A. Bus waveform preview B. Instrument track waveform preview 3. Waveform preview allows you to display historical peak markers on the timeline. Do you use this feature? A. Wasn't aware of this feature B. Aware of it but never use it C. I use this feature often D. I use it occasionally 4. When do you use this feature in your production? PS: If you find this feature useful please upvote this post by clicking on the star rating next to the title.
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Re: Questionnaire: Realtime Waveform preview on buses and instrument tracks
2015/07/23 08:23:50
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1. Do you use the waveform preview feature?
C. I use this feature often
2. Do you use this on buses or instrument tracks?
A. Bus waveform preview
3. Waveform preview allows you to display historical peak markers on the timeline. Do you use this feature?
C. I use this feature often
4. When do you use this feature in your production?
When automating FX parameters or other automation on a bus. Also, when checking overall waveform during final mix processing.
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Re: Questionnaire: Realtime Waveform preview on buses and instrument tracks
2015/07/23 08:28:40
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1. Do you use the waveform preview feature?
C. I use this feature often
2. Do you use this on buses or instrument tracks?
Buses mostly, but occasionally instrument tracks
3. Waveform preview allows you to display historical peak markers on the timeline. Do you use this feature?
C. I use this feature often
4. When do you use this feature in your production?
Mostly during mixing to look for trouble spots.
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Re: Questionnaire: Realtime Waveform preview on buses and instrument tracks
2015/07/23 08:29:25
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1. Do you use the waveform preview feature?
D. I use it occasionally
2. Do you use this on buses or instrument tracks?
A. Bus waveform preview ** Mostly
B. Instrument track waveform preview ** Occasionally
3. Waveform preview allows you to display historical peak markers on the timeline. Do you use this feature?
D. I use it occasionally
4. When do you use this feature in your production?
Usually when checking for peaks or a visual reference for writing automation.
Overall it's not something I use too often, but it's VERY handy when I need it.
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Re: Questionnaire: Realtime Waveform preview on buses and instrument tracks
2015/07/23 08:47:16
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1. Do you use the waveform preview feature?
C. I use this feature often
2. Do you use this on buses or instrument tracks?
A. Bus waveform preview
B. Instrument track waveform preview
Mainly (A) but sometimes (B)
3. Waveform preview allows you to display historical peak markers on the timeline. Do you use this feature?
B. Aware of it but never use it
4. When do you use this feature in your production?
At any stage when troubleshooting, but especially when doing last minute tweaks for final mixdown
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Re: Questionnaire: Realtime Waveform preview on buses and instrument tracks
2015/07/23 09:08:49
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1. Do you use the waveform preview feature?
C. I use this feature often
2. Do you use this on buses or instrument tracks?
A. Bus waveform preview
B. Instrument track waveform preview
Mainly (B) occasionally (A)
3. Waveform preview allows you to display historical peak markers on the timeline. Do you use this feature?
B. Aware of it but almost never use it
4. When do you use this feature in your production?
I use it as a default, because it helps me "see what's going on"
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Re: Questionnaire: Realtime Waveform preview on buses and instrument tracks
2015/07/23 09:13:50
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1. Do you use the waveform preview feature?
D. I use it occasionally
2. Do you use this on buses or instrument tracks?
A. Bus waveform preview
3. Waveform preview allows you to display historical peak markers on the timeline. Do you use this feature?
B. Aware of it but never use it
4. When do you use this feature in your production?
During mixing.
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Re: Questionnaire: Realtime Waveform preview on buses and instrument tracks
2015/07/23 10:07:59
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1. Do you use the waveform preview feature?
D. I use it occasionally
2. Do you use this on buses or instrument tracks?
A. Bus waveform preview
3. Waveform preview allows you to display historical peak markers on the timeline. Do you use this feature?
B. Aware of it but never use it
4. When do you use this feature in your production?
When mixing to set stem automation node points - I don't know how we got along without them!
- Whoever is considering taking this away, and therefore prompted this poll, should look elsewhere to trim whatever is needed to trim. ;-)
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Re: Questionnaire: Realtime Waveform preview on buses and instrument tracks
2015/07/23 10:12:42
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1 D
2 A
3 D
4 Automation/final mixdown.
Please give us a new drum maps UI first!
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Re: Questionnaire: Realtime Waveform preview on buses and instrument tracks
2015/07/23 10:23:36
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1. Do you use the waveform preview feature?
C. I use this feature often
2. Do you use this on buses or instrument tracks?
B. Instrument track waveform preview
3. Waveform preview allows you to display historical peak markers on the timeline. Do you use this feature?
A. Wasn't aware of this feature
4. When do you use this feature in your production?
When recording external instruments into Sonar.
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Re: Questionnaire: Realtime Waveform preview on buses and instrument tracks
2015/07/23 10:25:17
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1. Do you use the waveform preview feature?
D. I use it occasionally
but only because the work I've been doing lately doesn't really require it (live audio tracking).
2. Do you use this on buses or instrument tracks?
A. Bus waveform preview
B. Instrument track waveform preview
When I use it I've used it for both.
3. Waveform preview allows you to display historical peak markers on the timeline. Do you use this feature?
A. Wasn't aware of this feature
or maybe I was aware of it but forgot because it's been so long.
4. When do you use this feature in your production?
I've used it on MIDI Drum outputs (instrument tracks) just to see what things would look like as a wave before doing a freeze/export (which I then mix as if they were live recorded tracks). I've used it on busses to again see what's going on with the output. Like is it dynamic or totally squished. I usually use the meters to check for clipping or extreme spikes but of course seeing a wave visual is extremely helpful too and is an easier way to hunt down problem areas.
I think it's useful. Hope ya'll ain't considering removing it... unless it is necessary for something even more awesome and useful. If so then that should be put up for a vote or maybe coded in as a preferences option so people can choose. Doubt that's what's happening though.
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Re: Questionnaire: Realtime Waveform preview on buses and instrument tracks
2015/07/23 10:42:23
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C
A
C
At mix down to make sure I didn't miss anything. The visual prompt helps in case I didn't hear something I should have.
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Re: Questionnaire: Realtime Waveform preview on buses and instrument tracks
2015/07/23 10:57:50
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1. Do you use the waveform preview feature?
C. I use this feature often
2. Do you use this on buses or instrument tracks?
A. Bus waveform preview
B. Instrument track waveform preview
(both)
3. Waveform preview allows you to display historical peak markers on the timeline. Do you use this feature?
D. I use it occasionally
4. When do you use this feature in your production?
My main use for it is to generate a rough visual guide for where I might use gain and / or volume automation on a bus. It's also a good visual confirmation of what a compressor is actually doing to a track. I usually have it switched on all the time on the master bus, and can solo individual tracks or groups of tracks to see what's going on with them in terms of amplitude. I'm sure there are other things I use it for that I can't quite remember off the top of my head; I see it as an extension to metering in general.
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Re: Questionnaire: Realtime Waveform preview on buses and instrument tracks
2015/07/23 11:25:27
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1. Do you use the waveform preview feature?
C. I use this feature often (all the time, every time)
2. Do you use this on buses or instrument tracks?
A. Bus waveform preview (Yes)
B. Instrument track waveform preview (Yes)
3. Waveform preview allows you to display historical peak markers on the timeline. Do you use this feature?
C. I use this feature often (all the time, every time)
4. When do you use this feature in your production?
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Re: Questionnaire: Realtime Waveform preview on buses and instrument tracks
2015/07/23 12:19:56
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1. Do you use the waveform preview feature?
D. I use it occasionally
2. Do you use this on buses or instrument tracks?
A. Bus waveform preview
3. Waveform preview allows you to display historical peak markers on the timeline. Do you use this feature?
D. I use it occasionally
4. When do you use this feature in your production?
During mastering, I am often trying to maximise loudness. Peak markers help me know which parts of the song I need to pay special attention to, as they are the ones that need to be compressed or limited once the gain is turned up.
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Re: Questionnaire: Realtime Waveform preview on buses and instrument tracks
2015/07/23 12:56:25
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1. Do you use the waveform preview feature?
D. I use it occasionally
2. Do you use this on buses or instrument tracks?
both
3. Waveform preview allows you to display historical peak markers on the timeline. Do you use this feature?
D. I use it occasionally
4. When do you use this feature in your production?
Just ocassionally - to check for peaks....
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Re: Questionnaire: Realtime Waveform preview on buses and instrument tracks
2015/07/23 12:57:40
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Nearly every audio software I know shows a preview of the waveform as it records.
Am I misunderstanding something?
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Re: Questionnaire: Realtime Waveform preview on buses and instrument tracks
2015/07/23 13:07:07
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quote=Noel Borthwick [Cakewalk]]
SONAR has a unique feature that allows you to view waveform previews in realtime during playback on Instrument tracks and buses. This can be useful during mixing or drawing automation. I'm curious how many users take advantage of this feature or what you use it for. I would appreciate it if you could answer this brief questionnaire.
1. Do you use the waveform preview feature?
C. I use this feature often (ALWAYS!)
2. Do you use this on buses or instrument tracks?
A. Bus waveform preview
B. Instrument track waveform preview
BOTH!
3. Waveform preview allows you to display historical peak markers on the timeline. Do you use this feature?
C. I use this feature often (ALWAYS!)
4. When do you use this feature in your production?
I use it in every project on every bus and every instrument track during mixing. I use the peak marker during recording also. I have my normal template set up so that peak markers are always on every track and every bus. This feature is INVALUABLE to me to help me find problems with compression and volume levels both in the box and out.
PS: If you find this feature useful please upvote this post by clicking on the star rating next to the title.
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Re: Questionnaire: Realtime Waveform preview on buses and instrument tracks
2015/07/23 13:14:24
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jpetersen
Nearly every audio software I know shows a preview of the waveform as it records.
Am I misunderstanding something?
Yes, you are. This is not about the usual audio input track recording. This is for the audio outputs of softsynths (which do not generate waveforms by default) and/or bus outputs (which again do not output waveforms by default). I've only used a few DAWs but I've never seen any of those create visual wave outputs for synths or busses by default (but the option to do so may be there).
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Re: Questionnaire: Realtime Waveform preview on buses and instrument tracks
2015/07/23 13:26:59
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@Beepster - Thanks! So that waveform in the bus when I mixdown? Yes, I want to see clipping/optimal mix level. 1. Do you use the waveform preview feature? C. I use this feature often 2. Do you use this on buses or instrument tracks? A. Bus waveform preview B. Instrument track waveform preview (Drum replacement instruments - otherwise everything else I do is live) 3. Waveform preview allows you to display historical peak markers on the timeline. Do you use this feature? D. Occasionally, useful to find place where it's clipping and check which track pushed it over the edge. 4. When do you use this feature in your production? A: Mixdown (bus) B: Drum replacement, using midi drum synths, in both cases to keep an eye on optimum levels
post edited by jpetersen - 2015/07/23 13:45:07
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Re: Questionnaire: Realtime Waveform preview on buses and instrument tracks
2015/07/23 15:27:03
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D
A
D
To determine in advance how much gain I can add without pushing the peaks more than a few dB into the final compressor/limiter threshold on the Master, and to help spot "outliers" that should maybe be knocked down with some local attenuation somewhere upstream.
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Re: Questionnaire: Realtime Waveform preview on buses and instrument tracks
2015/07/23 15:28:03
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1. C
2. A
3. D
4. All the time.
This feature is integral part of my workflow.
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Re: Questionnaire: Realtime Waveform preview on buses and instrument tracks
2015/07/23 15:28:50
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1. Do you use the waveform preview feature?
D. I use it occasionally
2. Do you use this on buses or instrument tracks?
A. Bus waveform preview
3. Waveform preview allows you to display historical peak markers on the timeline. Do you use this feature?
C. I use this feature often
4. When do you use this feature in your production?
The waveform preview I use occasionally, if I'm looking for multiple high-energy regions and masking/phase issues.
I have the peak markers on all the time, especially after I finished recording a track, as I'm not watching the level meters while I play.
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Re: Questionnaire: Realtime Waveform preview on buses and instrument tracks
2015/07/23 16:01:43
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1. Do you use the waveform preview feature?
C. I use this feature often, but with a caveat that I might not be using it to its full potential.
2. Do you use this on buses or instrument tracks?
C. Both, I think
3. Waveform preview allows you to display historical peak markers on the timeline. Do you use this feature?
C. I use this feature often
4. When do you use this feature in your production?
Whenever something doesn't sound right and I want to check where the problem might lie
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Re: Questionnaire: Realtime Waveform preview on buses and instrument tracks
2015/07/23 16:04:14
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1. Do you use the waveform preview feature?
A. Wasn't aware of this feature
B. Aware of it but never use it
C. I use this feature often
D. I use it occasionally
2. Do you use this on buses or instrument tracks?
A. Bus waveform preview
B. Instrument track waveform preview
3. Waveform preview allows you to display historical peak markers on the timeline. Do you use this feature?
A. Wasn't aware of this feature
B. Aware of it but never use it
C. I use this feature often
D. I use it occasionally
4. When do you use this feature in your production?
I use it for applying automation mostly. Sometimes I will use it to find peaks or debug a click or pop I hear.
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Re: Questionnaire: Realtime Waveform preview on buses and instrument tracks
2015/07/23 16:20:20
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1. Do you use the waveform preview feature?
I use it often
2. Do you use this on buses or instrument tracks?
Mainly buses, occasionally softsynths
3. Waveform preview allows you to display historical peak markers on the timeline. Do you use this feature?
Yes
4. When do you use this feature in your production?
I mainly use it to check for inconsistencies in overall levels, especially on the master bus and particularly before exporting.
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Re: Questionnaire: Realtime Waveform preview on buses and instrument tracks
2015/07/23 16:48:05
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1. - B
2. - B
3. - B
4. Never
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Re: Questionnaire: Realtime Waveform preview on buses and instrument tracks
2015/07/23 17:37:58
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1. Do you use the waveform preview feature?
C. I use this feature often
2. Do you use this on buses or instrument tracks?
A. Bus/Master waveform preview
3. Waveform preview allows you to display historical peak markers on the timeline. Do you use this feature?
D. I use it occasionally
4. When do you use this feature in your production?
Checking overall levels, bus automation visuals (fade in/out), check peaks before the final export.
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Re: Questionnaire: Realtime Waveform preview on buses and instrument tracks
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1. Do you use the waveform preview feature?
D. I use it occasionally
2. Do you use this on buses or instrument tracks?
A. Bus waveform preview
3. Waveform preview allows you to display historical peak markers on the timeline. Do you use this feature?
D. I use it occasionally
4. When do you use this feature in your production?
Most often when mastering on the main buss to see if I'm over compressing. Looking for too many flat tops.
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Re: Questionnaire: Realtime Waveform preview on buses and instrument tracks
2015/07/23 19:52:18
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jpetersen
Nearly every audio software I know shows a preview of the waveform as it records.
Am I misunderstanding something?
Noel is not talking about the red coloured preview as you record. This is a waveform that renders in real time on busses during playback. You have to right-click on the bus to enable it.
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