undoubtedly they will and some.
So too with Reapers mute options. Not sure if any other DAW can do the same
but to be able to toggle the mute or change the mute to mute all others except the muted
is very handy, likewise their solo tool.
It is a pain to have to solo one item then to compare, un solo it and solo another. very tedious.
 

BJN
It is a pain to have to solo one item then to compare, un solo it and solo another. very tedious.

Don't want to be a smarta$$ but it's called "Exclusive Solo" in SONAR and does exactly what you want.

 

I think the MIDI transfer protocols are long established and pretty well ironed out after almost 30 yrs. It might be the resolution is not the same - or you should also make sure there are no midi effects inserted - and that the transpose or timing widgets on the track view are not doing any offsets or conversions. ( Sorry if I'm talking old school - I'm still on sonar 5 - not sure if X3 even has the track view widgets.)

Wow, you're right.
 
Probably a current question though because so much has changed with both programs in the interim.
Notation ability still being ironed out and refined in Reaper, their video support, web support for worldwide jams and sharing.
 
I kinda lost step with the constant avalanche of updates with Reaper. My short coming only, due to inability to understand what the majority of any of it means. Just a primitive a guitar banger here. Only comprehend a cord going into the DAW, that's as deep as I can go in this life.
 
If you are a gifted geek programmer, there are fast pace developments that bring orgasms to the faithful. Hundreds upon hundreds upon hundreds of refinements to allow a greater depth of scripting and programming. Over the couple years since the OP, there have been maybe 2 or 3 things done that were critical to my workflow. The rest is over my head.
 
Excellent program. Excellent and dedicated forum members on the high end of the bell curve in their understanding of bits and bytes. Left me in the dust a long time ago.
 
John

abacab
Interesting discussion, but did anybody notice the original post was made over two years ago?

I'm still using an apple ii + ST with c-lab ;-)
 
whats this vst's you folk are talking about ?!?!
 
next you'll be saying folk don't use reels any more.

Checked the latest update. Many fixes and refinements that have left me clueless as to how anything relates to the real world of creating music.
 
Again, deepest respect to the devs and the forum gurus that are light years beyond my understanding about anything that is being refined and tweaked into submission.
 
My only observation is the likes of Chopin and Mozart. Mind blowing compositions pouring down from some ethereal plane. They had one piece of hardware and did the task far more immortalized than anyone reading this (me included first and foremost).
 
Thankful that Reaper is being balls to the wall upgraded and updated, even if I have no idea about what is being upgraded and updated. Can take comfort in the fact that better minds than mine are at the helm. Fine program and fine supporters. Totally respect the concept and the driving forces.
 
John

JohnKenn
Checked the latest update. Many fixes and refinements that have left me clueless as to how anything relates to the real world of creating music.
 
Again, deepest respect to the devs and the forum gurus that are light years beyond my understanding about anything that is being refined and tweaked into submission.
 
My only observation is the likes of Chopin and Mozart. Mind blowing compositions pouring down from some ethereal plane. They had one piece of hardware and did the task far more immortalized than anyone reading this (me included first and foremost).
 
Thankful that Reaper is being balls to the wall upgraded and updated, even if I have no idea about what is being upgraded and updated. Can take comfort in the fact that better minds than mine are at the helm. Fine program and fine supporters. Totally respect the concept and the driving forces.
 
John

 I'd like to be one of those Reaper gurus.  It's a deep DAW.  I'd bet it's popularity was the price was great for people who just wanted to record.  Lack of documentation was it's weakest part at one time.

Mr Kenn,
 
I finally sat down yesterday and watched the first 23 of the 30 videos on Reaper (not counting the 7 NEW ones).
 
You are correct, they have done some pretty intense changes since V3 (when I jumped on board). I have yet to try to do a full song in Reaper but after watching those vids I think I have my head wrapped around their paradigms enough to give it a go. That will be one of my New Year's Resolutions. The other is to do a full song in Studio One Pro V3.x.

JohnKenn
From my experience, with audio input, meaning vocals or a direct guitar, there is no advantage of one over the other. Both do the job. Chaining effects is equally efficient.
 
John

With one exception: Reaper allows for real time use of FXs printed to the audio during recording if you desire. I've not seen where SONAR can do that, but then I admit I've never looked for it.

BobF

bapu

JohnKenn
From my experience, with audio input, meaning vocals or a direct guitar, there is no advantage of one over the other. Both do the job. Chaining effects is equally efficient.
 
John

With one exception: Reaper allows for real time use of FXs printed to the audio during recording if you desire. I've not seen where SONAR can do that, but then I admit I've never looked for it.

Feed the track to an armed aux track.  I never feel the need, but it works fine.  Same with recording synths.

Basically recording a "what you hear" track, along with a dry track for re-mixing later.  I think I ran across a YouTube for this technique ...

You don't see lists like these for AL parm selections?

After demoing Reaper for an extra month or two I finally bought my license today 
There are a few things that Reaper does that I absolutely Love ...
The media explorer has the ability to act exactly as the Acid Pro 7 Chopper does for both midi and Audio   ...
Love it , it means I can preview sections of anything I want,  audio or midi  in the  media explorer w tempo match on ,
highlight it , right click and place it into my project loop enabled (as a groove clip) 
I wish SONAR could do that in the browser view that workflow sure saves a lot of time and extra steps,It works great w drum midi's ..
 
There's a lot more I like about Reaper , I'll keep it at that for now ....
 
all the best ,
 
Kenny

abacab

kennywtelejazz
After demoing Reaper for an extra month or two I finally bought my license today 
There are a few things that Reaper does that I absolutely Love ...
The media explorer has the ability to act exactly as the Acid Pro 7 Chopper does for both midi and Audio   ...
Love it , it means I can preview sections of anything I want,  audio or midi  in the  media explorer w tempo match on ,
highlight it , right click and place it into my project loop enabled (as a groove clip) 
I wish SONAR could do that in the browser view that workflow sure saves a lot of time and extra steps,It works great w drum midi's ..
 
There's a lot more I like about Reaper , I'll keep it at that for now ....
 
all the best ,
 
Kenny

Hey Kenny, great tip on the Reaper media explorer!  Will need to check that out!  Have been demoing Reaper also lately, but only as far as VST plugins really, so had not run across that feature.  I have Acid Pro too, but it's no longer installed, so that would be cool!

Hey abacab ,
 
You might be pleasantly surprised at how easy and fun it is to get something happening w that Acid Pro style of workflow in Reaper.
A couple of things off the top of my head ,
For example lets say I want to preview some Loop Loft midi drum loops . Midi preview in the media explorer requires you have a VST synth on your track to be able to hear the midi performance ..
Set up your favorite drum plug and you are good to go..with tempo match on in the media explorer you can slide up the file from the media explorer , or you can highlight a section of the clip just like the Acid chopper and place it in the tracks time line looped or not looped ...
Another interesting thing about the Reaper media explorer when working with midi is it is very easy to set up a number of different tracks all with different synths .You can blast through and create a nice little midi tune pretty fast ....here's how ..a small example
Lets say you have synths set up on each track ...track one keys, track two  bass , track three  melody / lead instrument , track four drums ...
When you want to preview midi parts for those instruments all you have to do is left click on the track that has the instrument you want ..let's say drums ..track four in my little example ..choose the track , and just go to your drum midi files in the media browser to hear them ...
if you have a bass midi part , just hit track two to highlight it in the track view and use the media explorer to audition your midi bass parts ...
Rinse and repeat
Another nice workflow you can do that is totally an Acid Pro style way of working is to  place a mix , or a stem , or a backing track , or a fill in the black / song that's still under construction into Reaper ...
Now here's where you have to be careful
Since there is no beat detector in Reaper like there is in Acid Pro ( that I Know of Yet ..it may have I don't know )
Make sure you know the correct tempo of the file and set Reapers tempo to that files tempo before you bring it into Reaper as a media object ....
I learned this one the hard way ...
I had a stem I was working on that was recorded in SONAR ..Bass Drums and Keys ..all audio parts I played
the correct tempo of my mix was 135 ...when I opened Reaper as a new project and placed my first media object
" my Tune " Reapers project tempo was set at a default of 120 ...For the record it would not have mattered if I was just looking to blow a guitar solo over it ...the thing is I was looking to build up parts and layers any way I could .
SO here's the RUB ..once I had placed my mix in Reaper it played at the speed I had placed it in..that part was OK
The problem was it now conformed to Reapers default tempo ..meaning when I tried to set Reaper to 135 ..my project just played faster ....
In a nutshell once I understood what happened I closed the project with out saving it ..then I started a new Reaper project
Before I did another thing , I made sure I set Reaper to a tempo 135 ...every thing from that point on was good to go ...
My metronome now lined up and played correctly plus I had the added benefit of having and I do mean everything from midi to audio now synced perfectly to my mix / tune under construction.....this also included the media explorer and all the files .
The interesting thing is when using Reaper in an Acid Pro type of mode I feel a lot can be done .
Nothing I have described here involves having to dive in deep and figure out all the sub menu's or hidden right click options that can get confusing to a person who is just starting to learning the program ..
 
I feel this is a good start ....I hope you try it out when you get the chance .
 
all the best ,
 
Kenny
 
 

BobF,
 
Appreciate the graphics. Going to do some A/B testing and see how the two compare.
 
John
 
(edit) guess what I'm still not finding in Sonar are the multiple automation modes (trim,read,touch,latch,etc) These cusomize the approach and give needed options depending on the environment and what you are trying to accomplish. This said however, automation can still get done in either program. In Reaper, these operations and the automation panel are best accessed on any horizontal track via the zigzag graph button in the lower left.

Thanks Dan,
 
Explains why I don't have it since I stopped with X2. Looks like Platinum and Professional versions have 3 modes. Enough choices to get the job done.
 
John