REMIX, 6-7-12 NEW PUGTONES "OUT OF LOVE"

(6-7-12)  We really appreciate all of the comments.  You guys nailed it!  Mark did the remix so let us know what you think.  I think he addressed everyone's suggestions.  This is a great place.
 
I finally had to just pull the trigger on this song.  I've waited long enough.  I've waited the last couple years to find just the right singer.  That didn't happen so here I am singing a ballad.  Not my strong suit! 
 
The saving grace here is the wonderful collaborators who helped me with it.  I originally posted 4 tracks a couple summers ago looking for a keyboard player and Gary Dugan said he'd give it a shot.  Well, he's been on several since and we love his tracks and his talent.  Rich Arizmendi said he'd do sax and brothers and sisters, he did a soulful track!  Darren Matthes did drums and of course my partner Mark did lead guitar.  So here it is.  I didn't think we could play this slow.  LOL!  Thanks for taking the time to listen and for any comments!
 
"OUT OF LOVE" http://soundclick.com/share.cfm?id=11693950
 
GARY DUGAN (GDUGAN)- ELECTRIC PIANO
RICH ARIZMENDI (PSALMIST35)- SAX
DARREN MATTHES (DMAX)- DRUMS
MARK CLINE (CLEAN)- LEAD GUITAR/PRODUCTION/ENGINEERING
WARREN WILLINGHAM (EVADIANEPUG)-RHYTHM GUITARS, BASS GUITAR, VOCALS
 
 
 

Fantastic song, Warren.  You really delivered the blues on this piece.  All the performances are first rate, and your vocal was sung with passion.  However, I think it would have been more intimate had you not used so much reverb.  It sounds like you're playing in a very large space (think airplane hangar), whereas a smaller room might have been more effective.  Sometimes just putting reverb on one or two elements in a mix will fool the listener into thinking everything has reverb on it (psychoacoustics).  If you tell me you actually recorded this in an airplane hangar, then, nevermind.  No matter, this is very tasty, period.

Warren,  Good tune.  My only crit would be the extra reverb on the vocals, but that's largely a matter of taste.  I've been trying to greatly reduce my level of reverb, so it's always on my mind now.  I think less reverb would make the vocal track more present.  The bass level sounded OK to me.  The ending seemed to fizzle, I would have expected a build up and flourish... again just a matter of taste.

Nice Cjazz/blues tune.  Nice ballad.  You always put out nice stuff.

Daryl

That's lovely. Super performances from all concerned. I might back off the reverb on the lead vocal and hi-pass it a bit, but the whole thing sounds really lush. Very nice work gents.

excellent!

agree with the reverb on the voice, warren...
think you could mix it dead dry.

and maybe do fader rides, to bring up certain passages, that just kind of fall under the volume they need to be...
not compression, and not limiting, but just really dialed in volume fader automation.

It sounds pretty good Warren, there seem to be some timing anomolies with your bass track though bro. I love the tone though. It may be the drums? But the bass and drums don't feel "glued together."

Wow. It takes "a lot of work" to go in and align things... I know, I've done it. God bless you for your hard work.

Oh yeah..... That's it.

Put a fork in it.

Much better.  I like the reverb on this version.  Everything else is still great.

oh yeah, those vox sound so much better!  I'm lovin' this!  I can hear the electric piano much better in this as well.  good job, Mark (on the new mix)!

So, other than that, you like it?

Ed (bapu)- We agree with your assessment and Mark has made changes.  Thanks, buddy. 

Lynn- I thought everyone knows that I live an a very large airplane hangar!  LOL.  You were correct in what you said and we appreciate it.  Mark has remixed and we appreciate everyone being honest.  It helped us a bunch!  Now where is my airplane?  LOL!

Shad(Foxwolfen)- Mark did the cut thing and other things people have talked about.  Frankly, I screwed up because when you said do a low cut, I cut the bottom of the sheet music off. That stinkin' sound didn't change. Man, I misunderstood!   Luckily Mark understood.  Nice to hear fro you, buddy!

Daryl- You know, I rushed that mix to the forum and didn't realize how much verb was there.  I don't think Mark intended it to go up right away.  All of you really helped.  This is a great place to tweek things.  Thanks!!  Oh, I think I have something on that ending that Mark can't get rid of without doing a "chop stop".  OOPS!  I know what you mean, though!!

Rich- Thanks for working with us on this.  I love the sax and, yes, Mark made it stand out the way it should.  You outdid yourself on this one and we really appreciate it!!  And look, it only took two years to finish it since you did the part.  LOL

No, Pete, I wouldn't fault Warren: you acted like an a-hole for the vast majority of your post because you gave not criticisms but commentary. No one is going to respond positively to that, especially from some guy we've never heard from before.

pistolpete


Mark: No, I don't like it at all because I don't really like that style of music. I'm not making a good/bad value judgement. Everyone has their own tastes in music. Warren: You need to take constructive criticism better. I took the time to listen to your tune and give you some sincere professional constructive advice. You need to realize that acting like a baby when others have different opinions than you will get you absolutely nowhere.

There is nothing "professional" about you or your comments unless you consider trolling "professional" 
 
Besides, if you actually are a "professional," you might want to learn something about English grammar. 

Wow!  I must be listening to the new mix because it sounds exceptional.  Great song and arrangement.  Everyone kicked in on an excellent performance.  I really didn't notice too much reverb on the vocals Warren and I thought you did an excellent job on delivering the intent and emotion of the lyrics.  Kudos to Mark on the mix and the signature "CLEAN " lead guitar.  Kudos to all on a really nice number.
 
Freddy J