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Re: Rapture - Who Actually Uses and Likes This Synth?
2018/01/17 10:02:02
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Don't flatter yourself. I'm not offended at all. I'm not that close to the product. I'm merely questioning your sanity and feeling pity for a man who has spent years with a life so empty that he spends endless hours beating the same dead horses repeatedly. Let's say everything you said is true? So what? Do you want a bleeping trophy? The annual crazy ass alex told you so ribbon of right? There are a plethora of things that every armchair expert has complained about and none of them matter now. I don't think anyone was as passionate as the group who complained about staff view, but they are not finding every post to squeeze in the same blah blah they said ten years ago 500 times a day. I really hope you get help and find a better use of time.
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Re: Rapture - Who Actually Uses and Likes This Synth?
2018/01/17 14:50:32
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 Yawn. Another person who just wants to talk about me. Don't you get bored just talking about me? The thread title is not "CakeAlexS" it's Rapture Pro. It's not "People saying what I regard as negative or disagree with are crazy" either. AND I'll post what I"ll like thankyou you are not the boss of me, if you want to be rude do it elsewhere ;) to topic shall we?
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Re: Rapture - Who Actually Uses and Likes This Synth?
2018/01/17 18:07:36
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I use it and like it, fortunately its not locked to Sonar...
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Re: Rapture - Who Actually Uses and Likes This Synth?
2018/01/17 20:54:01
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The original Rapture and the two free expansion packs are a work of art!!!  But I never bothered with Rapture Pro, so I can't complain about it. Can't buy it now either, so c'est la vie... 
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Re: Rapture - Who Actually Uses and Likes This Synth?
2018/01/17 22:13:45
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Magic Russ
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STILL use Rapture on a 32bit bridge, always will, one of the sweetest sounding machines ever made <3
Why not just use the 64 bit version?
Do you mean Rapture 'Pro'? Wasn't aware the classic vs1 synth had a 64-bit incarnation. Would never bother with Rapture 'Pro' myself tho I know some peeps try to defend it here, fair enough.
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Re: Rapture - Who Actually Uses and Likes This Synth?
2018/01/17 23:09:45
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The full version of Rapture classic is available with both installers, 32 and 64-bit VSTi and standalone.
However there was an earlier Rapture LE version that shipped with Sonar 7 thru X1, so I'm not sure about that one. The full version of classic Rapture shipped with X2 thru Splat.
Rapture classic and Dimension Pro were retired from the store and replaced with Rapture Pro, but were still shipped with the current Splat installer.
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Re: Rapture - Who Actually Uses and Likes This Synth?
2018/01/17 23:11:26
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Hey Magic Russ,
Just worked out I am using the 64 vs (duuuh) it's Dimension Pro that remains 32bit
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Re: Rapture - Who Actually Uses and Likes This Synth?
2018/01/17 23:12:30
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Hey Magic Russ,
Just worked out I am using the 64 vs (duuuh) it's Dimension Pro that remains 32bit
Nope! Dim Pro is available as 64-bit also!
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Re: Rapture - Who Actually Uses and Likes This Synth?
2018/01/17 23:15:58
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Rap, DPro, Rap Session and Rap Pro all have 64 bit VST's. Check your account maybe.
Back to Blondie.
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Re: Rapture - Who Actually Uses and Likes This Synth?
2018/01/18 19:58:14
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Okay, this is all v interesting and shows me in an unflattering light, never mind. TBH I have been neglecting Rapture for Omnisphere, Serum and Iris all of which I love, but the truth is I love Rapture even more and I've come back to it thinking: Hell, I just gotta put up with a bridge.
So Dim Pro went 64 bit as well, I'm so happy to hear it.
The downside is I went to my account with Cakewalk and there they offer me Rapture 1.22 as the latest version and that's what I run here. But it seems to be 32 bit.
Really confused...
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Re: Rapture - Who Actually Uses and Likes This Synth?
2018/01/18 20:04:07
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Actually checking out the installer for 1.22 I reckon it's 64 bit ONLY for VST use, not in AU?
Am I right or am I right?
I only run Logic Pro X so that's the end of that, I suspect
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Re: Rapture - Who Actually Uses and Likes This Synth?
2018/01/18 20:16:38
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Actually checking out the installer for 1.22 I reckon it's 64 bit ONLY for VST use, not in AU?
Am I right or am I right?
I only run Logic Pro X so that's the end of that, I suspect
Click on the link for Rapture 1.0, if there is one in your Cakewalk account. In there you should see Rapture 1.21 for MacOSX, followed by a Rapture 1.22 Update for MacOSX. If I go straight to the link in my account for Rapture 1.22, I only see the Windows version. Don't see any notes about the bit levels of the products, in any case.
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Re: Rapture - Who Actually Uses and Likes This Synth?
2018/01/20 22:31:01
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i like rapture quite well. However, I have the feeling that there is potential up. a few more filters, slide to the next note in stepsequencer, ... etc.
I would have liked these and a few more features in rapture. which I discovered now is synthmaster by kv331. an absolutely undervalued synth for just 100, - €.
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Re: Rapture - Who Actually Uses and Likes This Synth?
2018/01/20 23:29:11
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☄ Helpfulby pentimentosound 2018/02/03 17:35:21
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i like rapture quite well. However, I have the feeling that there is potential up. a few more filters, slide to the next note in stepsequencer, ... etc.
I would have liked these and a few more features in rapture. which I discovered now is synthmaster by kv331. an absolutely undervalued synth for just 100, - €.
The folks who complain that SynthMaster is difficult to approach must have never tried Rapture, LOL! I have everything by KV331, and eagerly await the release of SynthMaster 3! The only problem with SM is that if I open that up I do not get anything else done. It's simply amazing what that thing can do! But I still like the sound quality of the Cakewalk synths, as they were breaking new ground 10 years ago. A lot of 3rd party devs have improved soft synth interface design and workflow since then though. But I still love the sound of Rapture!
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Re: Rapture - Who Actually Uses and Likes This Synth?
2018/01/21 17:44:03
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Rapture has nice sounds, tweak a little here and there. But Rapture Pro couldn't load the default factory library presets since few months back. Can only use read the DSF libraries and A few other third party libraries.
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Re: Rapture - Who Actually Uses and Likes This Synth?
2018/01/21 17:51:15
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Rapture has nice sounds, tweak a little here and there. But Rapture Pro couldn't load the default factory library presets since few months back. Can only use read the DSF libraries and A few other third party libraries.
I never bothered with Rapture Pro. I liked Dimension Pro and Rapture fine just as they were. Rapture Pro was developed by Cakewalk after they parted ways with Rene from RGC Audio, the original developer of most of the Cakewalk synth lineup and the sfz sample format. With all respect to the bakers, I really don't think the remaining bakers had the synth development chops needed for the job, IMHO...
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Re: Rapture - Who Actually Uses and Likes This Synth?
2018/01/21 20:05:45
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My problem with Rapture Pro is that the GUI is just not designed that well. I can see three times the parameters in Rapture Classic, and it takes half as much screen space.
I do actually like and prefer certain things about RP better than DP and Rapture Classic. For one, I can install it in any directory. Its predecessors had certain paths hard coded, so that if you wanted to install the data to a second drive, you had to install symbolic links in certain directories so it could find your files.
I also prefer RP navigation over its predecessors, as well as having a macro panel.
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Re: Rapture - Who Actually Uses and Likes This Synth?
2018/01/21 21:36:16
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If I could play the Gibson Bass Collection with Rapture, I'd have no need for RP.
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Re: Rapture - Who Actually Uses and Likes This Synth?
2018/01/22 09:38:49
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If I could play the Gibson Bass Collection with Rapture, I'd have no need for RP.
If this collection consists of SFZ files, you can load any of these up in Rapture's Elements. DimPro too.
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Re: Rapture - Who Actually Uses and Likes This Synth?
2018/01/22 14:25:12
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If I could play the Gibson Bass Collection with Rapture, I'd have no need for RP.
If this collection consists of SFZ files, you can load any of these up in Rapture's Elements. DimPro too.
They're .PROG files, unfortunately.
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Re: Rapture - Who Actually Uses and Likes This Synth?
2018/01/22 14:34:42
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☄ Helpfulby pentimentosound 2018/02/03 17:36:23
prog files are the program files created by Cakewalk sfz engine synths. prog files contain information about the elements and global settings for the synth. You should be able to see the settings in RP and replicate most of them in Rapture. The samples will need to be converted to a format Rapture can read. Rapture cannot load flac files.
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Re: Rapture - Who Actually Uses and Likes This Synth?
2018/01/22 15:41:39
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Rapture has nice sounds, tweak a little here and there. But Rapture Pro couldn't load the default factory library presets since few months back. Can only use read the DSF libraries and A few other third party libraries.
I never bothered with Rapture Pro. I liked Dimension Pro and Rapture fine just as they were.
Rapture Pro was developed by Cakewalk after they parted ways with Rene from RGC Audio, the original developer of most of the Cakewalk synth lineup and the sfz sample format.
With all respect to the bakers, I really don't think the remaining bakers had the synth development chops needed for the job, IMHO...
But, wasn't Z3TA+2 developed after Rene.
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Re: Rapture - Who Actually Uses and Likes This Synth?
2018/01/22 21:57:01
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TheMaartian
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If I could play the Gibson Bass Collection with Rapture, I'd have no need for RP.
If this collection consists of SFZ files, you can load any of these up in Rapture's Elements. DimPro too.
They're .PROG files, unfortunately.
Forget about the programs. I was talking about loading an SFZ file into an individual "Element". Look at the multisamples folder and see what is in there.
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Re: Rapture - Who Actually Uses and Likes This Synth?
2018/01/22 23:33:10
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SimpleManZ
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Rapture has nice sounds, tweak a little here and there. But Rapture Pro couldn't load the default factory library presets since few months back. Can only use read the DSF libraries and A few other third party libraries.
I never bothered with Rapture Pro. I liked Dimension Pro and Rapture fine just as they were.
Rapture Pro was developed by Cakewalk after they parted ways with Rene from RGC Audio, the original developer of most of the Cakewalk synth lineup and the sfz sample format.
With all respect to the bakers, I really don't think the remaining bakers had the synth development chops needed for the job, IMHO...
But, wasn't Z3TA+2 developed after Rene.
I believe Z3TA+2 was released in 2011. My first license for it was in 2012. RGC Audio was acquired in 2005, and I am not clear when exactly Rene left Cakewalk. Regardless, Z3TA+2 was more or less a success. It was more of an evolutionary change that exposed more synth parameters in the UI, and enhanced the workflow. I believe it essentially uses the same synth engine as the original.
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Re: Rapture - Who Actually Uses and Likes This Synth?
2018/01/29 05:04:00
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Cake bought Z3ta and brought on René, who worked up the original Dimension in P5. Dim Pro added a whole lot of material. René worked on Rapture, too. He was not involved in Rap Pro, as far as I know, although Beatscape was his, I believe.
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Re: Rapture - Who Actually Uses and Likes This Synth?
2018/01/30 23:30:51
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☄ Helpfulby bodhi65 2018/02/01 16:21:13
Rapture Pro has: - Stupifyingly bad sample and preset management
- A worse user interface than the original Rapture
- Unnecessarily difficult programming where you have to switch pages all the time even for basic stuff
- Inability to control levels and envelope parameters well (or predictably) with modulation
But it also has: - Incredibly cool step sequencing and modulation options
- The six elements (and ability to do one note per channel) is great for MIDI guitar
- The audio engine handles transpositions remarkably well
- The Instrument page makes parameter tweaking really simple
- No other synthesizer I've found can create the same kinds of patches as Rapture Pro, or offers the same kind of creative potential
So you have three choices: - Just look at the top lines 1-4 and dismiss Rapture because you think it sucks.
- Just look at the bottom lines 1-5 and think Rapture is effing awesome.
- Look at both the top and bottom sets of lines and use Rapture to do effing awesome stuff even though some parts of it really suck.
As to me, I'll be more distressed if I can't use Rapture Pro any more compared to if I can't use Sonar any more. There are other DAWs; there aren't other Rapture Pros.
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Re: Rapture - Who Actually Uses and Likes This Synth?
2018/02/03 03:37:32
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it's an awful update. and I was well suss when it came out.. it didn't add as much as say zeta 2
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Re: Rapture - Who Actually Uses and Likes This Synth?
2018/02/03 12:03:25
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☄ Helpfulby pentimentosound 2018/02/03 14:22:18
Z3TA+2 was a solid update. It added a lot of improvements to the workflow of a very decent synth. From Simon Cann's website, 'noise sculpture' and the book 'Cakewalk Synthesizers: from Presets to Power User' Z3TA+2 Update
Since the publication of Cakewalk Synthesizers: From Presets to Power User, second edition, Z3TA+ has undergone a major upgrade becoming Z3TA+2. Free PDF book covering the update https://noisesculpture.co...oads/cs2-z2-update.zip
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Re: Rapture - Who Actually Uses and Likes This Synth?
2018/02/03 12:23:41
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And as a bonus on the Z2TA+2 interface, it will recognize a Windows gamepad joystick if you enable the function in the x-y controller on the performance page.
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Re: Rapture - Who Actually Uses and Likes This Synth?
2018/02/09 05:17:44
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Anderton
Rapture Pro has:
- Stupifyingly bad sample and preset management
- A worse user interface than the original Rapture
- Unnecessarily difficult programming where you have to switch pages all the time even for basic stuff
- Inability to control levels and envelope parameters well (or predictably) with modulation
But it also has:
- Incredibly cool step sequencing and modulation options
- The six elements (and ability to do one note per channel) is great for MIDI guitar
- The audio engine handles transpositions remarkably well
- The Instrument page makes parameter tweaking really simple
- No other synthesizer I've found can create the same kinds of patches as Rapture Pro, or offers the same kind of creative potential
I've noticed that most of the negatives you list come from the upgrade to Rapture Pro, where most of the positives come from the classic Rapture. Which leads me to ask, how much influence did you have over this project?
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