Next, lets wait for pipeline. With him, the reaper's side of defense army would be complete. Sonar folks would truly have a tough time.

Reaper stole my Motu drivers. I had to kick it's tail and 86 the program to get my Audio/Midi back. Don't ask me? That is what just happened........................

try the latest .996 version. :)

When i started the post, we were in version .995 now its in .996

Thats what i call an update. Fast, gets many requests fulfilled. Makes folks happy.

I DLed .996. I think it was that fancy ASIO thing that got me.....................

Well, I used a lot of free and $40-$60 apps for recording, and found that you get what I pay for. No looking back for me.

One more thought: His business model seems to be built around a short-term cult following -- fueled by his cutting-edge development of low-cost/no-cost software. That will always work -- for short periods of time. I've yet to see it really last for a long time. Usually the product starts GREAT and cheap/free and gets worse and/or more expensive over time.

I'm not too sure about that with this guy.

I started using Winamp whan it first came out.. 1996? 98? So long ago... don't remember. It's STILL my preferred A/V playback program. It's STILL free, it STILL has a tiny footprint, and it STILL works flawlessly - although it supports many, many new features and video to boot. IMO, it blows away Windows Media Player all-around.

A quote from the website:

"REAPER versions 0.xx are available as freeware. When we release v1.0 the license will change to shareware, but you can freely use REAPER versions 0.1-0.99 for free. Head on over to the download page to grab a copy! "


So eventually it won't be free. Looks cool for freeware, though .As far as being a serious threat to Cakewalk, I think the jury is still out on that one. Wasn't the original version of Traktion given as freeware?


Tony
www.myspace.com/livesayrox

Just downloaded .96 ...
I dig the ripple editing, and its skinability ... looks like a cool program with lots of potential. I wonder if the key is if and when it will get bought out by a bigger company like, say Korg?

Just downloaded .96 ...
I dig the ripple editing, and its skinability ... looks like a cool program with lots of potential. I wonder if the key is if and when it will get bought out by a bigger company like, say Korg?

I take that back ... ripple editing is AWESOME! what a great shortcut ... i want that in Sonar 6.

Heeeeey! What's "ripple editing'?

Vegas has Ripple Editing. It's nice....but you have to be careful with it. For full-timeline edits, it has huge benefits over the Delete + Delete Hole option in Sonar.

ORIGINAL: three_eyed_otter

Post FX recording.

More flexible routing than SONAR w/true sidechaining abilities.

Support for changing recording sources on the fly

Support for 64-bit double precision plug-ins

Reaper looks darn fine.

have a good one
3Eo

firstly, i think it's really cool that someone is investing their time and energies
into creating a shareware product such as reaper. it could be disruptive, we'll
have to see. you gotta wonder why people do this sort of thing?

i was reading the user manual and making note of features. i don't doubt it
has unique features .. most every DAW application does. while it looks very
promising, and is certainly in the "lean and mean" category, i still contend it
has some growing up to do in order to match the functionality of entry level
DAW applications such as HomeStudio. the I/O routing is elegant for sure.
some i would likely never use (such as postFx recording).

for my usage, it's waveform and midi editing capabilities are too rudamentory ...
but, given time, it may well have the basics.

jeff

ORIGINAL: tonester

Okay. I see. But.....does that apply to future patches and upgrades? I mean, I'm sure the point is moot, since how much could he possibly charge for an update to a freeware program? Eventually the costs of developing and web hosting will probably require some sort of fee, like in the case of WinAmp. The basic program is free, but the Pro version costs $.

I'm sure that this program will suit a certain percentage of the population, sort of like how Audacity is to WAV editors. It's a great freeware program, but probably will not pose any serious threat to the likes of Sound Forge and Wavelab.

Tony
www.myspace.com/livesayrox

Hi Tony,

Justin reports that it will remain free as long as the sky is blue, the grass is green, and the water flows, etc., and so on...

("Little Big Man" reference)

Sonar is my go-to application at this point, but I may give Reaper a serious try once it goes to the "full" versions.

-mr moon

It also means the QA effort behind the scenes is suspect. There is simply no way on earth that a program like Reaper can be completely retested in a single day. To test it multiple times per day is even less possible. Sounds to me like it's being updated and only smoketested. And not only that, but the developer appears to be doing the coding and the testing. Talk about the fox guarding the hen-house. Of course, as a Beta, this might be acceptable to users. Once it comes out of Beta, however, I imagine updates will be delivered much less frequently simply due to the amount of time it will take to test it.

You guys are funny. REAPER is in beta, and will presumably get a complete final shakedown when Jason locks down the V1 code and features.

The furious rate of changes keeps the beta community engaged and submitting feature requests - and to some extent they help provide the QC function. I see it as an iterative prototyping model.

I'm not sure that REAPER will meet my specific needs at this point, but I love the routing flexibility, soft synth host support, and tiny footprint. What's not to like?

Finally, I don't think you should be comparing REAPER to Sonar until the final feature set is established. More to the point, I don't expect a commercial studio would be using a shareware product anyway. That type of product doesn't require that the company incur the costs of a fully-staffed support team. So they don't.

My guess is that Jason really wants this product to fly under the radar until everyone knows that there is a real alternative to the large DAW products with a rich feature set and a grass-roots user community.

From what I see, Jason's doing this because it's what he chooses to do with his time - I suspect the business model is not really a factor.

Dan Ash
White Plains, NY

Mmmm - naked dancing :-)