A1MixMan
Max Output Level: -58 dBFS
- Total Posts : 1706
- Joined: 2003/11/19 16:15:11
- Location: SunriseStudios
- Status: offline
Recommend a Video Card for X1?
What's up! I'm about to upgrade my video card and was wondering what everyone here recommends. I need a dual output card with 2 DVI outs and at least 1 gig of ram. Also it needs to be fanless. Rock solid 64bit drivers a must. I was looking at the Nvidia cards but can't seem to find one without a fan. I need it to be silent. Any suggestions? Also, is there any reason to go with a 2 gig card? I only use this computer to run X1. Thanks!
|
A1MixMan
Max Output Level: -58 dBFS
- Total Posts : 1706
- Joined: 2003/11/19 16:15:11
- Location: SunriseStudios
- Status: offline
Re:Recommend a Video Card for X1?
2011/04/24 23:24:19
(permalink)
|
Bub
Max Output Level: -3.5 dBFS
- Total Posts : 7196
- Joined: 2010/10/25 10:22:13
- Location: Sneaking up behind you!
- Status: offline
Re:Recommend a Video Card for X1?
2011/04/25 01:37:19
(permalink)
I'm done with ATI graphics cards. Every time it's time to upgrade my video card, I get sucked in to ATI/NVIDIA wars, end up trying ATI, and regret it. I don't care if the next one I get has a 22" box fan attached to it, I'm going with Nvidia. The ATI I have now is 1 Gb, no fan so it's silent, but to be honest, my PC is actually noisier now because the case fans kick in to high because the video card puts out so much heat. Unless you have a totally silent PC, it's not going to matter if there's 1 more fan on the video card. If noise is that big a deal, then get some of that PC noise proofing stuff and put inside your PC. Or just go buy a foam pad for your bed and cut it up. I got one and made two speaker isolators and a portable isolation booth for my mic. Best 10 bucks I ever spent.
post edited by Bub - 2011/04/25 01:38:59
"I pulled the head off Elvis, filled Fred up to his pelvis, yaba daba do, the King is gone, and so are you."
|
chuckebaby
Max Output Level: 0 dBFS
- Total Posts : 13146
- Joined: 2011/01/04 14:55:28
- Status: offline
Re:Recommend a Video Card for X1?
2011/04/25 02:15:40
(permalink)
while were on the subject..i just noticed some real lag lately in my video card..seems lately when i have a vst open..my screen freezes for about 3-4 seconds then responds..is this a graphics prob.?...sorry a-1..not stealing the thread bro..just curios
Windows 8.1 X64 Sonar Platinum x64 Custom built: Asrock z97 1150 - Intel I7 4790k - 16GB corsair DDR3 1600 - PNY SSD 220GBFocusrite Saffire 18I8 - Mackie Control
|
Bub
Max Output Level: -3.5 dBFS
- Total Posts : 7196
- Joined: 2010/10/25 10:22:13
- Location: Sneaking up behind you!
- Status: offline
Re:Recommend a Video Card for X1?
2011/04/25 02:23:52
(permalink)
That's weird. I've never run in to anything like that. It's not related to any of the Quikfixes is it?
"I pulled the head off Elvis, filled Fred up to his pelvis, yaba daba do, the King is gone, and so are you."
|
garybrun
Max Output Level: -82 dBFS
- Total Posts : 436
- Joined: 2005/11/03 11:15:44
- Location: Norway
- Status: offline
Re:Recommend a Video Card for X1?
2011/04/25 02:54:03
(permalink)
I run a NVS450 by Nividia. Silent and powers 4 monitors
Sonar Platinum 64bit, Win 10 64 bit, English, Intel Core i7 4960X @ 3.67GHz, ASRock Motherboard, 48GB DDR3 1600MHz, Nvidea NVS 510, Intel 750 1.2 SSD, 488GB SSD, 300GB SSD, 22TB in SATA Hardware: VS-700 set ASIO, Presonus RM32ai, Studio Live III 32, Studiolive 32R, RME Fireface 800, Matrox MX02 Rack, Roland Integra 7, Roland A-88, Edirol R-4 Pro, Focusrite Liquid Channel x 2, Jomeek Studio Channel VC1Qcs, Ultra Dyne 9024, TD30KV, Komplete 9 Ultimate, Monitors: Focal TRIO6 BE, JBL Studio Monitor 4412, SE Monroe Egg 150, Avantone x 2.
|
tomixornot
Max Output Level: -58.5 dBFS
- Total Posts : 1674
- Joined: 2011/03/05 11:31:26
- Status: offline
Re:Recommend a Video Card for X1?
2011/04/25 03:20:14
(permalink)
I've just put together a new pc, using nvidia 210 (1mb). It supports up to 2 monitors. Im currently running it on a single 27" monitor (1920x1080). So far so good, just a few days into testing. I was actually interested at the Radeon 5450 (which supports directx 11, if it matters).. but the store ran out of that card and recommend me 210 instead. Both cards are fan less. http://www.guru3d.com/article/radeon-5450-review/11
|
Bub
Max Output Level: -3.5 dBFS
- Total Posts : 7196
- Joined: 2010/10/25 10:22:13
- Location: Sneaking up behind you!
- Status: offline
Re:Recommend a Video Card for X1?
2011/04/25 03:38:53
(permalink)
tomixornot I was actually interested at the Radeon 5450 (which supports directx 11, if it matters).. but the store ran out of that card and recommend me 210 instead. Both cards are fan less. http://www.guru3d.com/article/radeon-5450-review/11 I have the 5450. It only supports 1 DVI. It has 1 DVI and 1 HDMI port and they don't work well together. You can do it, but it's a pain to make the monitors work the way you want. Plus, when you plug in your HDMI monitor to the HDMI port on the 5450, Windows 7 sees it as an audio device and tries to install drivers. Then Sonar adds it to the list of available audio devices. You also have to customize your monitors screen settings when using the HDMI port for a 2nd monitor every time you turn on your monitor. It's a real pita. Nvidia drivers are 1,000 times better also. Just go to ATI and Nvidia's web site and try to download the latest drivers. You'll see exactly what I'm talking about. Nvidia: 1 file ATI: 4 or 5 options that have no explanation. It's assumed you know what their terminology is. Just get an nvidia with two dedicated DVI ports and a fan. You won't regret it.
"I pulled the head off Elvis, filled Fred up to his pelvis, yaba daba do, the King is gone, and so are you."
|
Bub
Max Output Level: -3.5 dBFS
- Total Posts : 7196
- Joined: 2010/10/25 10:22:13
- Location: Sneaking up behind you!
- Status: offline
Re:Recommend a Video Card for X1?
2011/04/25 03:48:27
(permalink)
"I pulled the head off Elvis, filled Fred up to his pelvis, yaba daba do, the King is gone, and so are you."
|
tomixornot
Max Output Level: -58.5 dBFS
- Total Posts : 1674
- Joined: 2011/03/05 11:31:26
- Status: offline
Re:Recommend a Video Card for X1?
2011/04/25 07:41:16
(permalink)
Bub tomixornot I was actually interested at the Radeon 5450 (which supports directx 11, if it matters).. but the store ran out of that card and recommend me 210 instead. Both cards are fan less. http://www.guru3d.com/article/radeon-5450-review/11 I have the 5450. It only supports 1 DVI. It has 1 DVI and 1 HDMI port and they don't work well together. You can do it, but it's a pain to make the monitors work the way you want. Plus, when you plug in your HDMI monitor to the HDMI port on the 5450, Windows 7 sees it as an audio device and tries to install drivers. Then Sonar adds it to the list of available audio devices. You also have to customize your monitors screen settings when using the HDMI port for a 2nd monitor every time you turn on your monitor. It's a real pita. Nvidia drivers are 1,000 times better also. Just go to ATI and Nvidia's web site and try to download the latest drivers. You'll see exactly what I'm talking about. Nvidia: 1 file ATI: 4 or 5 options that have no explanation. It's assumed you know what their terminology is. Just get an nvidia with two dedicated DVI ports and a fan. You won't regret it. Bub, thanks for the info. I never get to test the Radeon 5450. Read about the Eyefinity software feature, and I though that should handle multi monitor setup. Agreed, Nvidia driver is easy to download.
|
Guitarpima
Max Output Level: -34 dBFS
- Total Posts : 4125
- Joined: 2005/11/19 23:53:59
- Location: Terra 3
- Status: offline
Re:Recommend a Video Card for X1?
2011/04/25 11:58:59
(permalink)
I have the ATI and it's not as much of a pain as it used to be. I would not recomend it though. NVidia is the way to go.
Notation, the original DAW. Everything else is just rote. We are who we are and no more than another. Humans, you people are crazy. Win 7 x64 X2 Intel DX58SO, Intel i7 920 2.66ghz 12gb DDR3 ASUS ATI EAH5750 650w PSU 4x WD HDs 320gb DVD, DVD RW Eleven Rack, KRK Rokit 8s and 10s sub
|
Freddie H
Max Output Level: -39 dBFS
- Total Posts : 3617
- Joined: 2007/09/21 06:07:40
- Status: offline
Re:Recommend a Video Card for X1?
2011/04/25 14:43:14
(permalink)
A1MixMan What's up! I'm about to upgrade my video card and was wondering what everyone here recommends. I need a dual output card with 2 DVI outs and at least 1 gig of ram. Also it needs to be fanless. Rock solid 64bit drivers a must. I was looking at the Nvidia cards but can't seem to find one without a fan. I need it to be silent. Any suggestions? Also, is there any reason to go with a 2 gig card? I only use this computer to run X1. Thanks! ASUS "NEW" NVIDIA GTX 460 1GB RAM V2.....you need at least 1GB RAM on the card in the near future... There are no new cards in NO FAN heatpipe...just forget that idea about total silent VIDEO card...460 should be almost close to silent though VERY low fan noise if you check any review out there.. ATI?...don't even go there... It's like comparing BMW with Fiat Uno.. Check any GAME FORUM if you don't believe me... The NVIDIA driver work perfect and phys engine work perfect...phys engine that doesn't even excist in ATI cards,, LOL SONAR Use NVIDA GPU too Pro Channel...ATI...na...SONAR X1 with ATI...its a joke with my friends setup you don't even wanna go there... He use latest ATI highend card...If you change any parameter in prochannels eq you get ASIO audio dropout with ATI... great graphic driver...not With SONAR X1 INTEL CPU + NVIDIA card good choice AMD + ATI bad choice... The choice is yours.... Review of the old V1 card http://www.anandtech.com/show/3810/nvidias-geforce-gtx-460-part-2-the-vendor-cards
post edited by Freddie H - 2011/04/25 14:52:18
-Highly developed spirits often encounter resistance from mediocre minds. -It really matters!
|
Jim Roseberry
Max Output Level: 0 dBFS
- Total Posts : 9871
- Joined: 2004/03/23 11:34:51
- Location: Ohio
- Status: offline
Re:Recommend a Video Card for X1?
2011/04/25 14:51:43
(permalink)
What's up! I'm about to upgrade my video card and was wondering what everyone here recommends. I need a dual output card with 2 DVI outs and at least 1 gig of ram. Also it needs to be fanless. Rock solid 64bit drivers a must. I was looking at the Nvidia cards but can't seem to find one without a fan. I need it to be silent. Any suggestions? For DAW purposes, you don't need the 5750 The 5450 works just fine... and the heatsink is nice and small. Otherwise, a 9500GT or 210 would also be just fine (about the same performance - larger heatsink). Regarding the 5450, you can configure a dual-monitor setup without problems. I've done it many times... Regarding heat: The 5450 actually runs fairly cool (thus the smaller heatsink). You want an example of hot??? Try a passive cooled 9800GT
post edited by Jim Roseberry - 2011/04/25 14:54:36
|
Freddie H
Max Output Level: -39 dBFS
- Total Posts : 3617
- Joined: 2007/09/21 06:07:40
- Status: offline
Re:Recommend a Video Card for X1?
2011/04/25 14:53:09
(permalink)
ASUS 9600 GT are in heatsink too... but I would buy a better card....
-Highly developed spirits often encounter resistance from mediocre minds. -It really matters!
|
A1MixMan
Max Output Level: -58 dBFS
- Total Posts : 1706
- Joined: 2003/11/19 16:15:11
- Location: SunriseStudios
- Status: offline
Re:Recommend a Video Card for X1?
2011/04/25 19:23:26
(permalink)
Bub This one is PCIe 2.0 and fanless. Hey Bub, that looks perfect but I can't find it for sale anywhere. Again, I only want a fanless video card with support for dual monitors with 1 gig of ram and rock solid drivers. Is that so hard to find?
post edited by A1MixMan - 2011/04/25 19:26:50
|
A1MixMan
Max Output Level: -58 dBFS
- Total Posts : 1706
- Joined: 2003/11/19 16:15:11
- Location: SunriseStudios
- Status: offline
Re:Recommend a Video Card for X1?
2011/04/25 19:40:33
(permalink)
Jim Roseberry For DAW purposes, you don't need the 5750
Jim, What do you mean by that? I don't care if it's overkill if that's what you mean. I REALLY want a fanless 1GB Dual Monitor card with rock solid drivers. The cost is not really a factor (within reason). Well, after searching around the net I'm beginning to think that such a card doesn't exist.
post edited by A1MixMan - 2011/04/25 19:58:58
|
Jim Roseberry
Max Output Level: 0 dBFS
- Total Posts : 9871
- Joined: 2004/03/23 11:34:51
- Location: Ohio
- Status: offline
Re:Recommend a Video Card for X1?
2011/04/25 20:08:56
(permalink)
What do you mean by that? I don't care if it's overkill if that's what you mean. I REALLY want a fanless 1GB Dual Monitor card with rock solid drivers. Be careful when choosing a passive-cooled higher performance video card. They need more power... and they can put off a lot of extra heat. The 5770 is overkill for audio only purposes... The 5450 or 210 are both more than sufficient (running dual monitors). If you get a decent unit it'll be rock-solid (no problem with heat, stability, etc).
|
A1MixMan
Max Output Level: -58 dBFS
- Total Posts : 1706
- Joined: 2003/11/19 16:15:11
- Location: SunriseStudios
- Status: offline
Re:Recommend a Video Card for X1?
2011/04/25 20:21:52
(permalink)
|
emwhy
Max Output Level: -62 dBFS
- Total Posts : 1402
- Joined: 2006/01/03 15:09:02
- Status: offline
Re:Recommend a Video Card for X1?
2011/04/25 20:26:37
(permalink)
I have a 9500 GT. No issues here, DPCs are fine, the card is quiet and handles X1 without any hitches. I do leave Aero turned-on, but have gotten rid of all the cute little fades, animations etc.
|
A1MixMan
Max Output Level: -58 dBFS
- Total Posts : 1706
- Joined: 2003/11/19 16:15:11
- Location: SunriseStudios
- Status: offline
Re:Recommend a Video Card for X1?
2011/04/25 20:27:53
(permalink)
My main goal was to have it silent as I'm trying to build a totally silent DAW. With a fanless power supply, SSD drives, and liquid cooling. I guess I need to learn more about what's possible and what's not. This card seems to be perfect, but I can't find it for sale anywhere. Maybe that's a sign... http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814187129 Thanks again.
post edited by A1MixMan - 2011/04/25 20:29:44
|
Jim Roseberry
Max Output Level: 0 dBFS
- Total Posts : 9871
- Joined: 2004/03/23 11:34:51
- Location: Ohio
- Status: offline
Re:Recommend a Video Card for X1?
2011/04/25 20:52:30
(permalink)
With a fanless power supply If you go fanless PS, you don't want a higher end video card consuming more power.
|
plamengv
Max Output Level: -90 dBFS
- Total Posts : 9
- Joined: 2011/03/26 09:08:31
- Status: offline
Re:Recommend a Video Card for X1?
2011/04/25 20:54:48
(permalink)
I'm using XFX GT240 512MB DDR5 with Accelero S1 Rev.2 on Windows 7 64bit since 10 months. It is dead cold and completely silent. The card was not fanless however. And you should not worry about changing the heatsink. It is easy and you get much better quality heatsink that way than a fanless card will ever have. Your best bet currently should be GT440 with DDR5 (avoid DDR3 at any cost) since GT540 is not available yet.
post edited by plamengv - 2011/04/25 20:58:19
Intel DX58SO | Core i7 930@3.8GHz | Thermalright IFX-14 | Kingston 3 x 2 GB@2000MHz | XFX GT240@Accelero S1 rev.2 | Creative X-Fi Titanium | 2 x 80GB SSD Intel | 2 x 1TB Hitachi | Pioneer BDR-205 | CoolerMaster SilentPro M600 | Antec SLK1600 | Yamaha DB-50XG @ MidiTemp DoXBoX | MOTU Traveler | Dell 3007WFP
|
A1MixMan
Max Output Level: -58 dBFS
- Total Posts : 1706
- Joined: 2003/11/19 16:15:11
- Location: SunriseStudios
- Status: offline
Re:Recommend a Video Card for X1?
2011/04/25 20:56:23
(permalink)
|
A1MixMan
Max Output Level: -58 dBFS
- Total Posts : 1706
- Joined: 2003/11/19 16:15:11
- Location: SunriseStudios
- Status: offline
Re:Recommend a Video Card for X1?
2011/04/25 20:59:09
(permalink)
plamengv I'm using XFX GT240 512MB DDR5 with Accelero S1 Rev.2 on Windows 7 64bit since 10 months. It is dead cold and completely silent. The card was not fanless however. And you should not worry about changing the heatsink. It is easy and you get much better quality heatsink that way than a fanless card will ever have. Your best bet currently should be GT440 with DDR5 (avoid DDR3 at any cost) since GT540 is not available yet. I need a dual monitor DVI card.
|
Jim Roseberry
Max Output Level: 0 dBFS
- Total Posts : 9871
- Joined: 2004/03/23 11:34:51
- Location: Ohio
- Status: offline
Re:Recommend a Video Card for X1?
2011/04/25 21:00:04
(permalink)
and liquid cooling. FWIW, liquid cooling doesn't necessarily result in quieter operation. Liquid cooling requires a pump. The newer self-contained water-cooling devices are pretty quiet... but they're not silent. You'll achieve the same noise performance with good air cooling... I've got 4.5GHz SandyBridge machines with both Corsair self-contained WC and our prefered air cooler. Temps on the air cooled machine are actually a little lower. If you're planning to use the Seasonic 400w Fanless PS, it'll work fine... but keep in mind that's running a bit lean. Conserve power where you can (video is an obvious example).
post edited by Jim Roseberry - 2011/04/25 21:08:01
|
plamengv
Max Output Level: -90 dBFS
- Total Posts : 9
- Joined: 2011/03/26 09:08:31
- Status: offline
Re:Recommend a Video Card for X1?
2011/04/25 21:18:47
(permalink)
Taken from here: HDMI is backward-compatible with single-link Digital Visual Interface digital video (DVI-D or DVI-I, but not DVI-A). No signal conversion is required when an adapter or asymmetric cable is used, and consequently no loss in video quality occurs. So as long as you connect monitors with up to 1920 x 1200 resolution you should be safe to use HDMI to DVI cable or adapter.
Intel DX58SO | Core i7 930@3.8GHz | Thermalright IFX-14 | Kingston 3 x 2 GB@2000MHz | XFX GT240@Accelero S1 rev.2 | Creative X-Fi Titanium | 2 x 80GB SSD Intel | 2 x 1TB Hitachi | Pioneer BDR-205 | CoolerMaster SilentPro M600 | Antec SLK1600 | Yamaha DB-50XG @ MidiTemp DoXBoX | MOTU Traveler | Dell 3007WFP
|
StarTekh
Max Output Level: -55 dBFS
- Total Posts : 2007
- Joined: 2004/03/09 12:02:20
- Location: Montreal
- Status: offline
Re:Recommend a Video Card for X1?
2011/04/25 21:24:58
(permalink)
Stick with Nvidia I have a simple 8700 GT 512 silent asus.. works fine no issues that i see..
|
Bub
Max Output Level: -3.5 dBFS
- Total Posts : 7196
- Joined: 2010/10/25 10:22:13
- Location: Sneaking up behind you!
- Status: offline
Re:Recommend a Video Card for X1?
2011/04/25 22:28:16
(permalink)
Jim Roseberry The 5450 works just fine... and the heatsink is nice and small. Otherwise, a 9500GT or 210 would also be just fine (about the same performance - larger heatsink). Regarding the 5450, you can configure a dual-monitor setup without problems. I've done it many times... Regarding heat: The 5450 actually runs fairly cool (thus the smaller heatsink). You want an example of hot??? Try a passive cooled 9800GT We've had very different experiences with the 5450. :) What would happen is, I would have to manually go in to setup mode on my monitor and change it from DVI to HDMI every time I would boot up my PC even though I didn't turn my monitor off. Then once I did Windows would see the HDMI port and it would show up as an audio port. Plus I would have to manually tweak the resolution settings otherwise it would be blurry every reboot. I still have my old Nvidia G9500. Great card! I should try it out and see if it works ok, it only has 512MB.
"I pulled the head off Elvis, filled Fred up to his pelvis, yaba daba do, the King is gone, and so are you."
|
Freddie H
Max Output Level: -39 dBFS
- Total Posts : 3617
- Joined: 2007/09/21 06:07:40
- Status: offline
Re:Recommend a Video Card for X1?
2011/04/26 03:59:57
(permalink)
Freddie H A1MixMan What's up! I'm about to upgrade my video card and was wondering what everyone here recommends. I need a dual output card with 2 DVI outs and at least 1 gig of ram. Also it needs to be fanless. Rock solid 64bit drivers a must. I was looking at the Nvidia cards but can't seem to find one without a fan. I need it to be silent. Any suggestions? Also, is there any reason to go with a 2 gig card? I only use this computer to run X1. Thanks! ASUS "NEW" NVIDIA GTX 460 1GB RAM V2.....you need at least 1GB RAM on the card in the near future... There are no new cards in NO FAN heatpipe...just forget that idea about total silent VIDEO card...460 should be almost close to silent though VERY low fan noise if you check any review out there.. ATI?...don't even go there... It's like comparing BMW with Fiat Uno.. Check any GAME FORUM if you don't believe me... The NVIDIA driver work perfect and phys engine work perfect...phys engine that doesn't even excist in ATI cards,, LOL SONAR Use NVIDA GPU too Pro Channel...ATI...na...SONAR X1 with ATI...its a joke with my friends setup you don't even wanna go there... He use latest ATI highend card...If you change any parameter in prochannels eq you get ASIO audio dropout with ATI... great graphic driver...not With SONAR X1 INTEL CPU + NVIDIA card good choice AMD + ATI bad choice... The choice is yours.... Review of the old V1 card http://www.anandtech.com/show/3810/nvidias-geforce-gtx-460-part-2-the-vendor-cards took my time try to help you as best I can... I don't know if you even bother reading my post....
post edited by Freddie H - 2011/04/26 04:01:26
-Highly developed spirits often encounter resistance from mediocre minds. -It really matters!
|
kson
Max Output Level: -80 dBFS
- Total Posts : 540
- Joined: 2008/12/12 10:30:44
- Location: Austin, TX
- Status: offline
Re:Recommend a Video Card for X1?
2011/04/26 07:37:34
(permalink)
Funny you should ask... I just finished my build of a new studio system and my choice of card was an Asus 210 Silent. It is powered by Nvidia and has 1GB DDR3 mem, which is plenty for what we do - no gaming. Check it out here - Asus 210. Oh yeah, the rebate is 15 bucks now too... Good luck.
|