Recording vocals help

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RE: Recording vocals help 2009/04/21 14:52:00 (permalink)
layer your vocals thats what i do you dont even have to record again just drag on another track it does phatten them up
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RE: Recording vocals help 2009/04/21 14:57:23 (permalink)

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Hey Kcearl,

Some good tips here and some impatience coming from a few. But recording is an art no matter how much technology changes. And - if I recall - my first vox take that I recorded was disappointing. Follow the these tips, learn from other forums and or books - and - experiment. Who knows, in just a short time you may discover a great method that not only works for you - but that you can help others with on this forum.

Here is a link to the techniques forum that has some interesting vox discussion.

http://forum.cakewalk.com/tm.asp?m=1697247






thanks for the link...im going to give it a good read then try and get some mileage in this afternoon :)

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RE: Recording vocals help 2009/04/23 20:58:08 (permalink)
I thing you will have to work with your cumputers mixer. click on the cumputers sound icon. Put the the mixer as high as it will go. Do the same for the computer record mix. hope this helps

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RE: Recording vocals help 2009/04/24 03:28:52 (permalink)
and the gear box plug in with a toneport


I assume you're using the Toneport UX2 (since you mentioned phantom power)???
If so, plug the mic directly into one of its mic preamps.
When recording, you generally want to use the shortest electronic path possible.
If you're using the UX2, the external mixer is redundant in this scenario... and is doing nothing but messing up your gain-staging (adding noise).

BTW, Get a healthy signal level by using your mic preamp's gain knob.
Then, use Sonar's track volume to control the relative volume of the track as a whole.
The gain on the Gearbox compressors is really meant for make-up gain (post compression - to keep levels consistant).

Don't expect your first recordings to sound like a record.
Having the gear is but the first step.
Listen to commercial recordings that you like... and try to get your tracks/mixes to sound similar.
As a general rule, try to get the sound as close to right/perfect as possible up front. That makes mixing a whole lot easier!

You've got a lot of learning/experience to absorb.
Enjoy the process...

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RE: Recording vocals help 2009/04/24 08:49:58 (permalink)
thanks...the phantom was coming from a mixer...


but ive been paying attention to what everyones been saying, spent yesterday moving around the room recording and found some big differences...lost the pop screen (i know, i know...like i said im a vocal beginner) and moved much closer to the mic...it makes my DeEsser work overtime but there's some depth to my voice..

I wont be winning any competitions but most of my stuff is pretty effects laden and now im getting a lot more to work with from the off..

thanks for the gain info...it never did seem right on gearbox...i'll work more from the front than the back...

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RE: Recording vocals help 2012/11/23 16:55:03 (permalink)
What is a good mic to use with sonar X2 (I use Jupiter 80 as my controller & interface)
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Re: RE: Recording vocals help 2012/11/23 17:35:19 (permalink)
Hi
I think you should first try to get some better results from your e835 mic. Its a nice mic imo.
As mentioned previous, dont bother with the pop screen unless its small enough to still allow you to get up close to the mic.
Sing straight into it holding it out straight like an extension to your nose.
Track with headphones and monitors off.
If you can balance he backing track so that it does not drown out your voice that will help you.
Once you have recorded the vocal track, look at he clip in track view.
If it looks like a thin line without any vertical size, then;
click on the clip and go to 
process
Apply effect gain
Boost 6db

Maybe do that twice until your clip looks nice and fat.

This will increase the volume of the track.

Then in the fx bin add breverb
Vocal plate or room reverb.
Bring down the wet mix fader to 30% and go from there.
I think you get the idea from there on.

Give it a play, and let us know how you get on.


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