Retaining QuadCurve remote control settings

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2014/01/30 18:40:46 (permalink)

Retaining QuadCurve remote control settings

I have no problem setting up QuadCurve and remote control initially with my PCR500 and then saving it as a ProChannel preset. Works great :)
 
But... On reopening a project my QuadCurve settings are lost.  
 
Help Please :)
 

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    Re: Retaining QuadCurve remote control settings 2014/01/30 18:44:00 (permalink)
    Hi Glynn
     
    Could you please give us the full steps to reproduce your issue from a new project (leaving no detail out), I could interpret what you have written in any number of ways right now so best to give us the specific steps so we are in no doubt of what your issue is.
     
    i.e. Like this:
    http://forum.cakewalk.com/Clip-name-partly-invisible-hidden-behind-padlock-icon-CWBRN23592-confirmed-by-CW-m2978847.aspx#2978847
     
     
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    Re: Retaining QuadCurve remote control settings 2014/01/30 19:04:47 (permalink)
    Hi Alex
     
    So from new project... Open a bus
    Right click on Quad setting (Low Freq) and select “remote control”
    Twiddle a controller on my PCR500 (controller 16 - MIDI Ch 01) and press “learn” tab
    press ok and now quad is activated by PCR500
    repeat using other PCR rotors and other Quad nobs
    Yep all works fine, then I save as a new ProChannel preset
     
    Close project then reopen project and Quad has not retained settings

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    Re: Retaining QuadCurve remote control settings 2014/01/30 19:10:16 (permalink)
    Also... Upon reopening the “remote control” the new value (controller 16 - MIDI Ch 01) has gone and original default value has returned
     

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    Re: Retaining QuadCurve remote control settings 2014/01/30 21:11:04 (permalink)
    Same results occur with the 3 ProChannel modules which let you use “Remote Control”
    •  QuadCurve
    • PC76 Compressor
    • Tube Saturation
     
    I've now tested this on X2 and X3 and on both my...
    My live rig... W7 HP laptop and a PCR300
    Studio setup... W8 and a PCR 500
     
    All with same results....... The mystery continues
    Would appreciate it if someone can confirm this behaviour.
     
    Cheers... Glynn

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    Re: Retaining QuadCurve remote control settings 2014/01/31 02:11:25 (permalink)
    You haven't in fact saved the AC T learn function.

    Presets are related to modules used and their individual settings. You want to use ACT to remember the link between your controller and what it controls.

    I'm on my iPad at the moment so can't give you a step by step but you need to activate ACT learning on the PC then after moving the pots and sliders etc close the ACT learn control and it should have saved it. I think from memory only.

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    Re: Retaining QuadCurve remote control settings 2014/01/31 03:05:36 (permalink)
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    You haven't in fact saved the AC T learn function.

    Presets are related to modules used and their individual settings. You want to use ACT to remember the link between your controller and what it controls.

    I'm on my iPad at the moment so can't give you a step by step but you need to activate ACT learning on the PC then after moving the pots and sliders etc close the ACT learn control and it should have saved it. I think from memory only.

    Thanks for your reply mudgel
     
    Yes indeed, I'm familiar with ACT and can manipulate QuadCurve, PC76 Compressor and Tube Saturation settings with it.
     
    For long winded reasons I won't go into here, other then to say that I wanted to use “Remote Control” as part of an on-stage set-up.
     
    So, I still find it strange that all other function that you can right click and select “Remote Control” retain bindings, while only the 3 Pro-channel do not. Why give these modules “Remote Control” at all if it doesn’t save them with a project file, seems a little crazy to me.
     
    Thanks again

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    Re: Retaining QuadCurve remote control settings 2014/01/31 03:39:40 (permalink)
    I think the purpose for which you want to use Remote control is outside it's scope.

    Certainly Remote control settings are not stored within an fx preset within the ProChannel or any other fx. They are stored in the .cwp file on a per project basis

    I've got this information from about 15 minutes of scouring the Reference Guide for X3 Producer. There's no information specifically stating that remote control is available for ProChannel in the manner that you suggest. Perhaps if you revise that info it may make it clearer what you can and can't do. Sorry I m no real help.

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    Re: Retaining QuadCurve remote control settings 2014/01/31 04:16:56 (permalink)
    mudgel
    I think the purpose for which you want to use Remote control is outside it's scope.

    So do I... This is why I'm so perplexed that Remote Control” settings for ProChannel are available in the first place
    mudgel
    Certainly Remote control settings are not stored within an fx preset within the ProChannel or any other fx. They are stored in the .cwp file on a per project basis

    Therefore IMO, the 3 Pro-channel Remote Control settings should be stored in the .cwp file as well.
    I only started saving the ProChannel preset because I could not get it to work (grabbing a straws really)
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    I've got this information from about 15 minutes of scouring the Reference Guide for X3 Producer. There's no information specifically stating that remote control is available for ProChannel in the manner that you suggest. Perhaps if you revise that info it may make it clearer what you can and can't do. Sorry I m no real help.

    You have been a big help :) I very much appreciate your input. Thank You muchly 

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    Re: Retaining QuadCurve remote control settings 2014/01/31 23:17:12 (permalink)
    So no one else finds it strange that the three ProChannel modulus listed below which have a “right click” “Remote Control” TAB option, do NOT retain there settings upon reloading a project?
    • QuadCurve
    • PC76 Compressor
    • Tube Saturation

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    Berringer 2 x FBC 1010 Alesis Control Pad KRK monitors
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