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Re: Ripple Editing!
2016/06/01 11:51:59
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Ripples need editing?
I eat my ripples the way they come.
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Re: Ripple Editing!
2016/06/01 13:24:16
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Ripple editing? What's next Mad Dog 20/20 tracking?  Rocky
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Re: Ripple Editing!
2016/06/01 13:41:48
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>> Ripple Editing
I've no idea what this is, but I kinda hope I can change a bar in the middle of my project from 4/4 to 7/8 and not
have the rest of the project off by a beat.
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Re: Ripple Editing!
2016/06/01 13:45:36
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☄ Helpfulby JoeHans 2016/06/03 04:58:32
Ripple editing is common with video editing software. It opens up space and closes spaces automatically when you insert and delete material. It basically solves a lot of the issues people have when doing arrangements in SONAR with inserting, deleting, or moving large blocks of data.
Sony Vegas has an excellent ripple editing implementation. If SONAR's is even close, it will be very, very welcome.
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Re: Ripple Editing!
2016/06/01 13:52:27
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Anderton
Ripple editing is common with video editing software. It opens up space and closes spaces automatically when you insert and delete material. It basically solves a lot of the issues people have when doing arrangements in SONAR with inserting, deleting, or moving large blocks of data.
Sony Vegas has an excellent ripple editing implementation. If SONAR's is even close, it will be very, very welcome.
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Re: Ripple Editing!
2016/06/01 13:59:24
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Re: Ripple Editing!
2016/06/01 14:09:28
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☄ Helpfulby Kylotan 2016/06/01 14:31:17
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Ripple editing is common with video editing software. It opens up space and closes spaces automatically when you insert and delete material. It basically solves a lot of the issues people have when doing arrangements in SONAR with inserting, deleting, or moving large blocks of data.
What a delightful name for a bug fix.
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Re: Ripple Editing!
2016/06/01 14:18:06
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Ripple editing would be very cool. Wish this feature was around a couple of years ago when I was scoring to Picture everyday. When I would receive an updated version of a project, you really had to know your way around Sonar to add and delete time and be very careful. It was not hard to mess something up and turn things into a nightmare. Ripple editing should remove that issue.
If SONAR adds ripple editing, updates notation editing and works on Mac OS, there is no reason it will not become the premiere DAW for film scoring.
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Re: Ripple Editing!
2016/06/01 14:18:09
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Re: Ripple Editing!
2016/06/01 14:20:31
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Re: Ripple Editing!
2016/06/01 17:10:35
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slartabartfast
Anderton
Ripple editing is common with video editing software. It opens up space and closes spaces automatically when you insert and delete material. It basically solves a lot of the issues people have when doing arrangements in SONAR with inserting, deleting, or moving large blocks of data.
What a delightful name for a bug fix.
Telling it like it is. We had an option to delete blank space that used to work and then didn't. Perhaps selling a bug fix as a new feature is another big trend in software development.
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Re: Ripple Editing!
2016/06/01 17:49:02
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☄ Helpfulby bluzdog 2016/06/01 23:27:05
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Ripple editing? What's next Mad Dog 20/20 tracking?
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Re: Ripple Editing!
2016/06/01 19:04:05
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Ripple editing is not the same as deleting space. It automatically moves future data when you edit on the timeline. It requires quite a bit of support to the editing infrastructure.
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Re: Ripple Editing!
2016/06/01 20:24:18
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Noel Borthwick [Cakewalk]
Ripple editing is not the same as deleting space. It automatically moves future data when you edit on the timeline. It requires quite a bit of support to the editing infrastructure.
We can only imagine. 
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Re: Ripple Editing!
2016/06/02 01:21:33
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ripple editing (shuffle editing) is great, reaper has had it for years, studio one and others have had it for quite a while, it's good to see sonar finally catching up in this area
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Re: Ripple Editing!
2016/06/02 02:24:33
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HI:)
I found a few videos on "Ripple Editing", but all I can see, that it is working similar to "Snap to Clip".
Can't see any difference:(
What does Ripple Editing exactly??
Thanks;)
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Re: Ripple Editing!
2016/06/02 04:58:58
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☄ Helpfulby glennstanton 2016/06/02 05:32:42
It's really gonna come down to how it's implemented but imagine this: you have ripple editing enabled for all tracks. You split all the tracks at measure 5, and then slip edit the end of the first section of Track 1 to roll it out more. Every other track and automation/tempo/meter slides along with it. That's super powerful. No more inserting measures, no more guessing if your buss automation will move with the tracks, the timeline automatically expands or shrinks to change with the edit you're doing. Now as I said, it all depends on how this is implemented. In Vegas Pro, it works that way, and you can also do individual tracks too, so you could leave the rest of your project intact and just ripple edit on a single track, for example. Pretty excited about this feature!
post edited by Lord Tim - 2016/06/02 06:38:11
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Re: Ripple Editing!
2016/06/02 09:03:26
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@Lord Tim
OK, that would be very nice:)
Thanks!
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Re: Ripple Editing!
2016/06/02 09:27:16
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I am so freaking want that feature! CW please don't make us wait for too long.
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Re: Ripple Editing!
2016/06/02 09:30:06
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One of the most useful things in Vegas are the temporary, vertical "snap to" lines when you butt splice clips. In video, esp., it is nice to see what you are doing.
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Re: Ripple Editing!
2016/06/02 20:13:46
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This should be great (and how about a true Scratch Pad??  )
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Re: Ripple Editing!
2016/06/02 23:29:49
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Awesome. Looking forward to this one!
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Re: Ripple Editing!
2016/06/02 23:31:22
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☄ Helpfulby bluzdog 2016/06/03 08:38:10
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Re: Ripple Editing!
2016/06/03 01:35:14
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very nice, Ron... huge improvement to rearranging!
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Re: Ripple Editing!
2016/06/03 04:08:14
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@SquireBum
Thanks for the Video! If this come to Sonar like this, it would be awesome and saves a lot of time to be creative...
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Re: Ripple Editing!
2016/06/03 08:21:52
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SquireBum
For anyone who doesn't fully understand the function and value of Ripple Editing, here is an excellent 10 minute tutorial video done by Kenny Gioia for another DAW: http://www.cockos.com/reaper/videos.php#NsSb1otziI0
Hope this help,
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Re: Ripple Editing!
2016/06/03 09:36:07
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Just a note: Ripple editing would be a great thing if it ripples everything (tempo, automation, meters etc.) Otherwise I can pretty much do everything else already with what SONAR has.
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Re: Ripple Editing!
2016/06/03 09:58:58
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Jimbo 88
Just a note: Ripple editing would be a great thing if it ripples everything (tempo, automation, meters etc.) Otherwise I can pretty much do everything else already with what SONAR has.
Yeah, that'll be interesting to see. Since video projects aren't typically locked to a tempo, an editor has free reign to cut clips by a few frames and have everything else slide into place. But if you're in SONAR working on a project that's 4/4, 120bpm, what happens if you use the ripple edit feature on the last beat of a measure? When everything past that point (previously the downbeat of the next measure) slips into place, does the affected measure now become a 3/4 measure so the downbeat stays as is? Or does the downbeat now become the fourth beat of the affected measure? I'd assume that options will be made available to customize the process (much like inserting a tempo, etc.) but it'll be interesting to see how this pans out. Really looking forward to this capability.
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Re: Ripple Editing!
2016/06/03 10:09:26
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The video was very informative. Thanks!
My question is, are the little bits that cross the bar lines retained in the clip or are they cut?
Arrangement editing: for instance, in section A you have MIDI notes that cross over the bar line to
Section B. You delete Section B, and C & D slide over to fill up the hole made by B.
Are those MIDI notes in A which drifted into B now truncated (split)?
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