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Roland Quad Capture - Sonar X1 - Audio Settings help!!!!
Just bought a Roland Quad-Capture and I cannot record a track because after configuring the device in Sonar, when I arm the track, the input is pinned at 100% ! The interface work perfectly outside of Sonar. Here are my settings. Any help is appreciated!!!!
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Re: Roland Quad Capture - Sonar X1 - Audio Settings help!!!!
January 01, 17 3:01 PM
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Hi, Did you buy it retail or second hand. It may be bad. Does it work with other software? Audacity and Reaper for example are free.
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Re: Roland Quad Capture - Sonar X1 - Audio Settings help!!!!
January 01, 17 3:44 PM
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Re: Roland Quad Capture - Sonar X1 - Audio Settings help!!!!
January 01, 17 5:14 PM
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Bitman: I bought this brand new. Zargg: drivers are(were) all up to date. So here is an interesting part two to this. I restarted my computer and the open Sonar X1 and it has dropped the Roland Quad Capture as a devices. ???!?!?! What is up? I've run this copy of Sonar for a few years using a different audio interface and never had an issue. Baffled
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Re: Roland Quad Capture - Sonar X1 - Audio Settings help!!!!
January 01, 17 5:29 PM
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Have you tried a different USB cable?
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Re: Roland Quad Capture - Sonar X1 - Audio Settings help!!!!
January 01, 17 5:30 PM
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Yes as well as different USB ports. Same issues.
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Re: Roland Quad Capture - Sonar X1 - Audio Settings help!!!!
January 01, 17 8:25 PM
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☄ Helpfulby pmitchell January 01, 17 9:36 PM
When ever I have issues with my quad, I close everything. Find the Aud.ini file and re-name. And then everything runs fine for a long time. I've not had this issue before of the input pinned, but when it goes missing, this can fix.
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Re: Roland Quad Capture - Sonar X1 - Audio Settings help!!!!
January 01, 17 9:15 PM
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Thanks Kamikazi. Is the Aud.ini file a sonar or roland quad config file? This issue happens in ASIO driver mode. The interface works fine in WDM/KS mode but would like to use the ASIO driver if possible. Think I need to update my sonar install. I'm running X1(build 185) that I've reinstalled after wiping my PC. I've logged into the cakewalk store and tried to find updates but that place is a mess and it sends me in circles. Can anyone point me in the right direction to find updates? Pete
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Re: Roland Quad Capture - Sonar X1 - Audio Settings help!!!!
January 01, 17 9:28 PM
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Ok, discovered the Cakewalk Command Center. Installed and ran it with my cakewalk store account credentials and and it says "You don't have any products." WTF!!! The webstore shows me all my products when I log in. Booooooooooo
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Re: Roland Quad Capture - Sonar X1 - Audio Settings help!!!!
January 02, 17 0:21 PM
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☄ Helpfulby mitchpetel January 02, 17 7:20 AM
C:\Users\mitchpetel\AppData\Roaming\Cakewalk\Sonar Platinum Aud.ini should be in there. On the command centre, is your user name mitchpetel appearing at the the top?
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Re: Roland Quad Capture - Sonar X1 - Audio Settings help!!!!
January 02, 17 0:27 PM
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The Cakewalk Command Center does not show older SONAR versions such as X1. Only versions of SONAR released in 2015 and newer are available in the Command Center. The older SONAR versions are in your account.
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Re: Roland Quad Capture - Sonar X1 - Audio Settings help!!!!
January 02, 17 7:28 AM
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Scook, thanks for the info. Then, could you please tell me how/where to get patches for my old build (X1 Studio - build 185) ? I am logged into my cakewalk store account and am looking at my list of registered products. The support link beside my X1 product takes me to a list of knowledge base articles and the actual product link takes me to a downloads page that only includes the original build of X1 that I purchased online. Where are the patches??? Thanks Pete
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Re: Roland Quad Capture - Sonar X1 - Audio Settings help!!!!
January 02, 17 7:36 AM
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That's probably it. Your version may be one of the patches before X2 was released. Scook's not a Cakewalk employee btw, just an encyclopedic helpful forum member, who happens to have host status.
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Re: Roland Quad Capture - Sonar X1 - Audio Settings help!!!!
January 02, 17 7:38 AM
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Did re-naming the Aud.ini file work?
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Re: Roland Quad Capture - Sonar X1 - Audio Settings help!!!!
January 02, 17 7:56 AM
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Found links via google to the cw knowledge base that linked me up to some patches. I am now running X1 Studio x1d - build 534. I still have the same original problem. When I arm a track for recording in Asio driver mode, the input is pinned at 100% ! Kamikaze: Unfortunately, re-naming the Aud.ini file did not work. Thanks for the suggestion. Thanks for the help guys. Any more ideas?
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Re: Roland Quad Capture - Sonar X1 - Audio Settings help!!!!
January 02, 17 8:27 AM
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I beleive the X series started when Roland took over, so I'd of thought that would have meant t was compatable. I jumped from 8.5 to X3, so I can't really say. Only other suggestion I have is to try the current demo version and see if it still occurs. If it does, then it's likey to be another issue as I don't recall Quad users having this issue before. I've had mine over 5 years now, so Quad posts tend to jump out at me. I take it when you open the Quad's control panel outside of Sonar the inputs are fine. My Device Settings shows Main 1.04 (012E) BIOS 1.01 (012E)
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Re: Roland Quad Capture - Sonar X1 - Audio Settings help!!!!
January 02, 17 12:45 AM
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Yes the Quad works outside of Sonar with no issue. The Quad does work inside of Sonar but only in WDM driver mode. ASIO driver mode is where the issue occurs. I have the same device settings. I can't say that I wouldn't upgrade my Sonar version but I'm not sure that will solve my problem. To avoid running multiple version on the same PC (and any issues that may introduce), I'm going to install X1d on a second machine and see if I have the same issue. Thanks very much for the suggestions!
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Re: Roland Quad Capture - Sonar X1 - Audio Settings help!!!!
January 02, 17 1:00 PM
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My suggestion was more to help with deducing the issue, than trying to persuade you to upgrade. You mentioned that a newer patch of X1 may help. If the new Sonar still had the same issue, it would kind of rule that out, as well as provide more info into what it may be. Kind of the same if it did work. It would show that the Quad does work with Sonar just not with your purchased one. many users keep the older version of Sonar on their machines, so I don't think it would introduce more issues. You could also do a back up, and go back to that after you tried.
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Re: Roland Quad Capture - Sonar X1 - Audio Settings help!!!!
January 02, 17 1:10 PM
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Yes, I follow you. I'll let you know how I make out with the second PC.
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Re: Roland Quad Capture - Sonar X1 - Audio Settings help!!!!
January 02, 17 2:37 PM
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Update: Running X1d on my laptop with Roland Quad does work in ASIO mode!! Both computers are Win10 64bit but the successful laptop has x1d 64bit installed and the failing pc had x1d 32bit installed. I'm going to wipe 32bit x1 out and reinstall the 64bit version. We'll see what happens next.
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Re: Roland Quad Capture - Sonar X1 - Audio Settings help!!!!
January 02, 17 3:10 PM
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Re: Roland Quad Capture - Sonar X1 - Audio Settings help!!!!
January 02, 17 3:33 PM
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...wicked Try WASAPI
This might well work. I used a UA-101, the predecessor of the Quad Capture, with X1 and using Roland's ASIO driver there were a few strange issues. One being the channel/master getting pinned in the red. Another was a zipping/tearing noise when the eq was adjusted while Sonar was playing, and another was that when loop recording each pass through the loop after the first ended with a period of silence equal to the length of the ASIO buffer. Switching to the Roland WASAPI drive (included in the driver package) fixed all of this and latency was as good as using ASIO. X2 didn't have any problems using the UQ-101 ASIO driver because it fixed quite a lot of tricky or rare X1 bugs.
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Re: Roland Quad Capture - Sonar X1 - Audio Settings help!!!!
January 02, 17 4:32 PM
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Thanks Wicked and tlw. I reinstalled X1 as 64bit and patched up to X1d. ASIO still behaves exactly the same so that was not the fix. I tried WASAPI, as it was in the list of driver modes (don't remember ever seeing it before) but it sounded like it was still drunk from new years eve. I was able to record but playback was dropped in pitch and all warbley. Stumped for X1. Can you still upgraded to X2 or X3 from X1, or is the new 'Artist', 'Producer', etc the only option?
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Re: Roland Quad Capture - Sonar X1 - Audio Settings help!!!!
January 02, 17 4:40 PM
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mitchpetel Thanks Wicked and tlw. I reinstalled X1 as 64bit and patched up to X1d. ASIO still behaves exactly the same so that was not the fix. I tried WASAPI, as it was in the list of driver modes (don't remember ever seeing it before) but it sounded like it was still drunk from new years eve. I was able to record but playback was dropped in pitch and all warbley. Stumped for X1. Can you still upgraded to X2 or X3 from X1, or is the new 'Artist', 'Producer', etc the only option?
Artist, Professional and Platinum are the available choices now. Besides http://www.cakewalk.com/Products/Music-Creatorand http://www.cakewalk.com/Products/SONAR-Home-StudioI would as advised earlier try the demo's. Have you checked that bit depth is correct? (sorry if asked already) All the best.
post edited by Zargg - January 02, 17 5:26 PM
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Re: Roland Quad Capture - Sonar X1 - Audio Settings help!!!!
January 02, 17 5:21 PM
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In asio mode, audio driver bit depth is set to 24 and disabled/greyed out. I've tried toggling the checkbox beside it for "64-bit Double Precision Engine" with no effect.
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Re: Roland Quad Capture - Sonar X1 - Audio Settings help!!!!
January 02, 17 5:34 PM
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Many ASIO drivers have a fixed bit depth.
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Re: Roland Quad Capture - Sonar X1 - Audio Settings help!!!!
January 02, 17 9:43 PM
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Flash the unit and reinstall firmware. Try on a different computer with all the driver modes. Isolate whether it might be faulty hardware or not. Shouldn't be, but could be.
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Re: Roland Quad Capture - Sonar X1 - Audio Settings help!!!!
January 03, 17 2:08 PM
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Thanks wicked. As I posted above, I have updated interface drivers and Sonar installs on two computers (desktop and laptop). All driver modes work on both machines with the exception of asio on my desktop pc.
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Re: Roland Quad Capture - Sonar X1 - Audio Settings help!!!!
January 03, 17 11:15 PM
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Hey Zargg Looking into bit depths to get the ASIO driver working I notice something weird. Everything is set at 24bit except the readout on the Control bar. What do you think?
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Re: Roland Quad Capture - Sonar X1 - Audio Settings help!!!!
January 03, 17 11:30 PM
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The transport module shows the "Record Bit Depth" from Preferences > File > Audio Data.
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