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Re: SONAR 2016.04 Update now available
2016/04/26 19:59:53
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rtucker55
Are the installs going to continue to put the LANDR mastering entry in the utility menu every time I update?
I suspect it will be around as long as LANDR. The SONARToolsEditor on this page http://forum.cakewalk.com/FindPost/3392713 makes maintaining the SONAR Tools menu easier.
Thank You scook for your reply and suggestion. I just don't understand why cakewalk would still be forcing LANDR on their Customers after all of the complaints. For me, the updates are no longer something to look forward to. With C3 they could make it selective if they wanted to... This is either the product of internal self interest, greed, or just don't care. It may just be time for another internal shakeup starting with the decision makers.
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Re: SONAR 2016.04 Update now available
2016/04/26 20:07:59
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rtucker55
I just don't understand why cakewalk would still be forcing LANDR on their Customers after all of the complaints.
No part of LANDR's product is installed without your consent. The part you are seeing is the registry entry developed by Cakewalk to call a Cakewalk utility to integrate LANDR. This part of the process is similar to the other 3rd party encoders included with Cakewalk, just a little more visible.
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Re: SONAR 2016.04 Update now available
2016/04/26 20:28:18
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scook
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I just don't understand why cakewalk would still be forcing LANDR on their Customers after all of the complaints.
No part of LANDR's product is installed without your consent. The part you are seeing is the registry entry developed by Cakewalk to call a Cakewalk utility to integrate LANDR. This part of the process is similar to the other 3rd party encoders included with Cakewalk, just a little more visible.
With all due respect. Cakewalk could prevent that menu entry from showing up in the utilities menu if they really wanted to. Unfortunately, the LANDR mastering entry is right next to the Plugin-mgr entry which I use frequently. I appreciate your kind help but apparently this is just my personal problem that I have no control over with one exception. I know what to do. Kind regards, Rick
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Re: SONAR 2016.04 Update now available
2016/04/26 20:41:26
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The first time something like this has happened to this degree anyway. I never had a problem with anything performing once it was installed correctly. But these two puppies are a different breed for some reason. Could they not have performed under to usual standards? The new LP plugins look great though...I haven't actually seen them on my laptop :)
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Re: SONAR 2016.04 Update now available
2016/04/26 21:03:45
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Hi Soundblend. I'm certainly no expert, but I don't think your GTX750TI card is ever going to run right with an LGA775 motherboard with a core 2 quad CPU. I would also assume by your specs that your power supply will probably not be up to the task either? You really need at least 700watt. Not questioning you here, I just believe you should give this some thought. I have the same card and it required a fair bit of upgrade, and I was way above your specs.
I'm thinking I'm going to hang back on this update. I've had enough driver issues of late to last me for some time and I've got work to do, not chase more upgrades for software.
Cheers. Dave.
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Re: SONAR 2016.04 Update now available
2016/04/26 21:07:17
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Cakewalk could prevent that menu entry from showing up in the utilities menu if they really wanted to. They probably could, but you can't assume that everyone has the same aversion to LANDR as you. There are SONAR users who use LANDR, so having it in the utilities menu is convenient, as is the option to upload to SoundCloud for some people. I suppose a preference when installing that said "don't create the registry entry that lets you download LANDR or access it from within SONAR if you have it installed" could be added, but that seems like taking the installation process to a pretty granular level. Of course you can always go into the registry and delete the LANDR key, but you would need to do this on subsequent updates. Or you could type in a new, inspiring phrase for that line in the registry and change it every time you update. That way you'd see something you wanted to see next to the plug-in manager.  But I get it, for whatever reason you're really upset about this and nothing will suffice short of some process to delete the registry entry automatically and permanently. I really don't know of any way to do that. It's scary enough for me just to go into the registry.
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Re: SONAR 2016.04 Update now available
2016/04/26 21:14:40
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☄ Helpfulby belltunes 2016/04/27 16:01:08
I wish my life was so simple and free of trouble that menu options in applications that I don't use were what angered me. Until such a state of grace arrives, though, I have to say, I find it impossible to take seriously people who appear to be grown-ass adults carrying on like this.
THERE, I'VE SAID IT.
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Re: SONAR 2016.04 Update now available
2016/04/26 22:57:57
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Hi Soundblend. I'm certainly no expert, but I don't think your GTX750TI card is ever going to run right with an LGA775 motherboard with a core 2 quad CPU. I would also assume by your specs that your power supply will probably not be up to the task either? You really need at least 700watt. Not questioning you here, I just believe you should give this some thought. I have the same card and it required a fair bit of upgrade, and I was way above your specs.
I'm thinking I'm going to hang back on this update. I've had enough driver issues of late to last me for some time and I've got work to do, not chase more upgrades for software.
Cheers. Dave.
I got a Chieftech power supply that's 650 watts, and my computer is not all the best but it works. Btw i have overclocked my Graphics card from basic GPU core clock of the GTX750TI, it can run stable at 1058Mhz, and the memory is boosted with 20Mhz .. ( i Play World of tanks ) at full HD 1920 x 1080 continious, with a max temperature of 34 degrees celsius, and with a fan speed of max 32%. I guess there's people here, that have great computers with high end stats that have the same issues... right ? So for me it is a Software issue with the LP plugins, not my system. I got Izotope Ozone 6, that is very CPU consumable, i can run that good with other plugins and various vsti's running at the same time as well reverb and delay, without any hiccups XD. But i agree people can certainly wait until the bakers can optimize the plugins a bit more.. EDIT : And for me windows 8 was far better than windows 10, but that is my opinion.
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Re: SONAR 2016.04 Update now available
2016/04/26 23:16:41
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Soundblend
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Hi Soundblend.
I got a Chieftech power supply that's 650 watts, and my computer is not all the best but it works.
Btw i have overclocked my Graphics card from basic GPU core clock of the GTX750TI, it can run stable
at 1058Mhz, and the memory if it is boosted with 20Mhz ( i Play World of tanks ) at full HD 1920 x 1080
continious, with a max temperature of 34 degree celsius, and with a fan speed of max 32%.
So for me it is a Software issue with the LP plugins, not my system.
I got Izotope Ozone 6, that is very CPU consumable, i can run that good with other plugins
and various vsti's running at the same time as well reverb and delay, without any hiccups XD.
But i agree people can certainly wait until the bakers can optimize the plugins a bit more..
Sounds like your all over it. I've not had half that success. My aim was 4k video editing and I've given up and built a 2nd PC. The last driver for the GTX750 did finally fix a lot of problems, but there are still many more not yet addressed. Thanks for info. regards Dave.
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Re: SONAR 2016.04 Update now available
2016/04/27 02:55:20
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I'm sinking a lot of money into building a new PC this weekend. Since I'm using it solely for music production, I was told that I really didn't need to worry too much about what graphics card I put in it, as long as it could support two monitors. This talk about the new plugins' GUIs not displaying properly on some people's systems has me a bit worried now. I'm getting a used 560 Ti from a friend. Will that card be okay for anything Sonar throws at it?
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Re: SONAR 2016.04 Update now available
2016/04/27 03:10:43
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scook
No part of LANDR's product is installed without your consent. The part you are seeing is the registry entry developed by Cakewalk to call a Cakewalk utility to integrate LANDR. This part of the process is similar to the other 3rd party encoders included with Cakewalk, just a little more visible.
i found with the previous official update, the march release, (which i only installed on my test pc because they said landr was optional and separate now) that as well as the menu entry it also installed the landr .exe in the cakewalk shared utilities folder. to me that certainly is installing a part of landr, all be it just an exe (if one can say just an .exe, virus delivery and all that) . it is still installed on my computer by cakewalk/sonar whichever way you cut it. i am not updating my main daw pc past manchester, and won't be updating my test machine which i installed the march update on past where it is now. but then sonar isn't my main daw so it's ok. still when they say you have the choice to install landr or not and that no part of landr will be installed that's how it should be, sonar certainly did install the landr .exe on my machine, if they say it is not going to then it should do exactly that. it's easy to delete the .exe and remove the menu entry, but that isn't the point.
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Re: SONAR 2016.04 Update now available
2016/04/27 03:12:56
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rtucker55
Are the installs going to continue to put the LANDR mastering entry in the utility menu every time I update?
I DO NOT WANT LANDR. I DO NOT WANT THE LANDR ENTRY IN THE UTILITY MENU. YES, I'M YELLING BECAUSE I AM PISSED OFF.
No matter what I have tried, verbose, manual install of Sonar only, it continues to install that damn LANDR entry in the utility menu every time then I have to go back and figure out how to get rid of it.
This is a big deal to me and I hope to get an answer, not an excuse as to why it is OK and won't hurt anything.
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Re: SONAR 2016.04 Update now available
2016/04/27 03:17:09
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skitch_84
I'm sinking a lot of money into building a new PC this weekend. Since I'm using it solely for music production, I was told that I really didn't need to worry too much about what graphics card I put in it, as long as it could support two monitors. This talk about the new plugins' GUIs not displaying properly on some people's systems has me a bit worried now. I'm getting a used 560 Ti from a friend. Will that card be okay for anything Sonar throws at it?
If you buying a reasonable mboard and CPU you won't need the graphics card. Most mboards have the capacity for 3 monitor support these days. An extra you simply don't need for a music machine!!
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Re: SONAR 2016.04 Update now available
2016/04/27 03:29:28
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The Grim
rtucker55
Are the installs going to continue to put the LANDR mastering entry in the utility menu every time I update?
I DO NOT WANT LANDR. I DO NOT WANT THE LANDR ENTRY IN THE UTILITY MENU. YES, I'M YELLING BECAUSE I AM PISSED OFF.
No matter what I have tried, verbose, manual install of Sonar only, it continues to install that damn LANDR entry in the utility menu every time then I have to go back and figure out how to get rid of it.
This is a big deal to me and I hope to get an answer, not an excuse as to why it is OK and won't hurt anything.
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I have no interest in LandR, but honestly could not give a rats **** what menu it sits in, unnoticed and unloved, whilst my life and workflow continue on blissfully unaffected. That File>save as on the other hand gets me mad!! You doth protest too much, methinks:)
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Re: SONAR 2016.04 Update now available
2016/04/27 04:03:01
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you can think what you like, i might think you are just a fanboi? so what? and as i said above it is more than just the menu entry it is the .exe in shared utilities, which may not bother some, but let me ask, would you be happy having people just dropping/installing .exe's on your system? forget it is cakewalk, just say it was some random. plus it is said it was seperate install and has been said no landr stuff would be installed without your consiously doing it
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Re: SONAR 2016.04 Update now available
2016/04/27 04:36:46
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☄ Helpfulby Mitch_I 2016/04/27 17:25:32
The Grim
you can think what you like, i might think you are just a fanboi? so what?
and as i said above it is more than just the menu entry it is the .exe in shared utilities, which may not bother some, but let me ask, would you be happy having people just dropping/installing .exe's on your system? forget it is cakewalk, just say it was some random. plus it is said it was seperate install and has been said no landr stuff would be installed without your consiously doing it
But it's not 'some random' - it's a trusted software provider with a long history of doing the right thing by their users. The number of .exe's installed by windows that sit dormant on your system unless you choose to access a particular feature is almost unfathomable. Why worry about this particular one? Fanboi makes me feel 20 years younger. Thanks for that!
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Re: SONAR 2016.04 Update now available
2016/04/27 05:05:03
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skitch_84
I'm sinking a lot of money into building a new PC this weekend. Since I'm using it solely for music production, I was told that I really didn't need to worry too much about what graphics card I put in it, as long as it could support two monitors. This talk about the new plugins' GUIs not displaying properly on some people's systems has me a bit worried now. I'm getting a used 560 Ti from a friend. Will that card be okay for anything Sonar throws at it?
I've got a measly GT610 based NVidia card and it displays the Linear EQ and Multiband fine, so you don't need a powerful card, just one with (half-decent?) drivers.
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Re: SONAR 2016.04 Update now available
2016/04/27 05:47:35
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Hello the two mastering plugins delivered with the lastest 04-2016 Platinum's version don't work: they tremble like sheep without screening anything understandable. The laptop where I tried this new version is a very recent Lenovo Core I7 with OpenGL 4.4.0 NVIDIA 345.20. Is there a solution or do you have to update this delivery? I use the forum because I get an error on the email form support either. Best wishes Edited: solved with support by updating the driver and going into the Geforce panel to add Sonar to the list of apps that use the NVIDIA graphics processor.
post edited by thierry.venin@gmail.com - 2016/04/27 10:51:52
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Re: SONAR 2016.04 Update now available
2016/04/27 06:03:19
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skitch_84
I'm sinking a lot of money into building a new PC this weekend. Since I'm using it solely for music production, I was told that I really didn't need to worry too much about what graphics card I put in it, as long as it could support two monitors. This talk about the new plugins' GUIs not displaying properly on some people's systems has me a bit worried now. I'm getting a used 560 Ti from a friend. Will that card be okay for anything Sonar throws at it?
If you buying a reasonable mboard and CPU you won't need the graphics card. Most mboards have the capacity for 3 monitor support these days. An extra you simply don't need for a music machine!!
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skitch_84
I'm sinking a lot of money into building a new PC this weekend. Since I'm using it solely for music production, I was told that I really didn't need to worry too much about what graphics card I put in it, as long as it could support two monitors. This talk about the new plugins' GUIs not displaying properly on some people's systems has me a bit worried now. I'm getting a used 560 Ti from a friend. Will that card be okay for anything Sonar throws at it?
I've got a measly GT610 based NVidia card and it displays the Linear EQ and Multiband fine, so you don't need a powerful card, just one with (half-decent?) drivers.
Thanks for the reassurance, guys!
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Re: SONAR 2016.04 Update now available
2016/04/27 07:46:33
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Thanks for keeping the excellent updates coming! I came here as a Reason user coming in, but SONAR has won me over and in no small part due to this community and the continuing reach for excellence by Cakewalk.
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Re: SONAR 2016.04 Update now available
2016/04/27 08:18:01
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My old 1gig Nvidia GeForce 210 displays the new LP EQ and MB without issue.
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Re: SONAR 2016.04 Update now available
2016/04/27 09:22:21
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Same here with an 8-10 year old ATI Radeon HD5450 w/ 1GB RAM - both plugins display as expected. I haven't had a chance to actually use them for real yet, but they seem to be working OK and are a great upgrade to the previous versions.
I do wonder though what those experiencing this issue have in common. There must be something...
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Re: SONAR 2016.04 Update now available
2016/04/27 09:31:36
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Re: SONAR 2016.04 Update now available
2016/04/27 09:38:03
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Hmm. when I use the lp-eq I've got a delay of about 1 sec between a keypress on my midi keyboard and sound generation of a soft or hardware synthesizer.
Does anyone else experience the same?
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Re: SONAR 2016.04 Update now available
2016/04/27 09:42:15
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Just wondering, why did you guys elect to use OpenGL to accelerate the drawing, rather than DirectX? It just seems like a choice that is going to give some unnecessary headaches. Any graphics drivers on a modern (Vista or newer) Windows OS by definition does DirectX acceleration as it is part of the spec. OpenGL is optional, however, and support varies wildly. nVidia is rock solid, supports the latest spec, and runs at the same speed as DX. Intel tends to lag a bit on support and speed isn't always as good, but is usually quite stable. AMD is pretty good about supporting the new specs, though they lag a bit behind nVidia, but performance is usually fairly poor and they often have stability issues.
I would just think with Sonar being Windows only DX would be easier support wise.
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Re: SONAR 2016.04 Update now available
2016/04/27 09:45:29
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Hey Alex. There is delay in the LP Plugins for phase linear processing. In the expert menu using the processing mode button you can select nonlinear for 0 delay (but nonlinear) processing.
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Re: SONAR 2016.04 Update now available
2016/04/27 09:47:08
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Also a thought with relation to potential issues: Are they mostly occurring on laptops with dGPUs? If so the issue might be with Optimus/Enduro. If somehow Sonar itself is rendering on the integrated GPU but the plugins are trying to use the discrete GPU that could cause an issue.
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Re: SONAR 2016.04 Update now available
2016/04/27 10:09:53
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The Grim
sonar certainly did install the landr.exe on my machine
Welcome back with your latest alt, I'm sure everyone missed you. However, what you're saying is NOT true. It is the LANDR Export.exe file, in other words, the tiny 330 kilobyte function that has relevance only if you call up the actual LANDR.exe program, which is NOT installed on your computer. You can verify this for yourself. If LANDR.exe is installed and you uninstall it, it will remain uninstalled after doing a SONAR update. If you try to access LANDR Export.exe from the Utilities menu, SONAR can't do anything except ask if you want to install LANDR because...it's not installed.
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Re: SONAR 2016.04 Update now available
2016/04/27 10:21:41
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anybody know if someone wants to get the full version on TH3 is it an upgrade price or full version? I know it is a special version (TH3 cakewalk) but overloud nor Cakewalk says.. thanks!
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Re: SONAR 2016.04 Update now available
2016/04/27 12:32:13
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What's going on with update numbers and the likes?
This morning I downloaded the Dimension Pro 1.5 download and got sub-version 13. When I went to launch in CCC it started downloading a newer version! I believe it was 16 but I had to stop it as I was out of download time... Did it actually change between 5am and 9am pacific? There has been no talk about a DimPro update?
Even more strange....
I had the early access version (1st) of SPlat installed and downloaded the final release... When I went to install via CCC the numbers were all weird... Trying to remember the exact but I had to find the official release via Rollback as if it was still early access???
More? I think something similar with Engineering fx???
I'm gonna try that update now... Wondering if this is the one with LP problems? The early access are working just fine.... Maybe I shouldn't update... Of course I'[ll try! ;-)
<sheesh>
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