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SONAR 2017.02 - Comping Enhancements Reuse existing Take lanes when recording
"SONAR will now place newly recorded clips into existing Take lanes during loop recording or whenever possible"
I MUST be totally misreading this. I hope this isn't what I think it is. Currently, I will set up a loop and record multiple takes each in it's own lane. When I'm done I'll audition each of the take lanes and pick the one I like the best. Please tell me that Sonar will NOT overwrite each take lane while looping just to keep take lanes more manageable. That would cripple my work flow beyond repair.
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Re: SONAR 2017.02 - Comping Enhancements Reuse existing Take lanes when recording
2017/02/23 14:20:00
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I really hope that's an option we can disable.
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Re: SONAR 2017.02 - Comping Enhancements Reuse existing Take lanes when recording
2017/02/23 14:44:27
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☄ Helpfulby Frugaard 2017/02/23 14:46:24
It doesn't overwrite anything. As I understand it, this eliminates the issue that happened if you, for example, do comping on the first verse and generate, say, 10 Take lanes. Then if you started comping on the second verse and also used 10 Take lanes, SONAR would not use the existing Take Lanes even though they would be empty where the second verse started...it would create new Take Lanes so now your track would have 20 take lanes or whatever. With this change, because the 10 Take lanes were empty where the second verse started, SONAR would simply record into those.
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Re: SONAR 2017.02 - Comping Enhancements Reuse existing Take lanes when recording
2017/02/23 14:47:01
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Anderton
It doesn't overwrite anything. As I understand it, this eliminates the issue that happened if you, for example, do comping on the first verse and generate, say, 10 Take lanes. Then if you started comping on the second verse and also used 10 Take lanes, SONAR would not use the existing Take Lanes even though they would be empty where the second version started...it would create new Take Lanes so now your track would have 20 take lanes or whatever. With this change, because the 10 Take lanes were empty where the second verse started, SONAR would simply record into those.
That`s the way I read it too :)
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Re: SONAR 2017.02 - Comping Enhancements Reuse existing Take lanes when recording
2017/02/23 14:53:09
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This new behavior sounds like something I've been wanting for some time. Looking forward to it! (Ref: this post from October 2013)
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Re: SONAR 2017.02 - Comping Enhancements Reuse existing Take lanes when recording
2017/02/23 15:49:37
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I hope Craig's right. I often record vocals and especially guitar leads by section and it's a hassle to keep moving clips to available lanes and keep deleting an ever mounting number of take lanes.
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Re: SONAR 2017.02 - Comping Enhancements Reuse existing Take lanes when recording
2017/02/23 15:51:10
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The Reuse feature in the comping update in [2017.02] is only one of several significant improvements. Here is an example of the new comping followed by an example of the same project using the old comping. Instead of 7 lanes to display the recording takes, the new method only uses 4 lanes. New comping:  Old comping:  -- Ron
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Re: SONAR 2017.02 - Comping Enhancements Reuse existing Take lanes when recording
2017/02/23 15:59:01
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Most excellent. This is a HUGE improvement and I am so looking forward to this!
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Re: SONAR 2017.02 - Comping Enhancements Reuse existing Take lanes when recording
2017/02/23 15:59:31
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I'm not seeing 2017.02 when I try to roll back...
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Re: SONAR 2017.02 - Comping Enhancements Reuse existing Take lanes when recording
2017/02/23 16:06:10
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Also, don't overlook the ability to now maximize take lanes in the same way we can maximize tracks by double clicking on them. This should please a lot of people who have felt constrained by the limited take lane height in the past.
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Re: SONAR 2017.02 - Comping Enhancements Reuse existing Take lanes when recording
2017/02/23 16:20:19
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Anderton
It doesn't overwrite anything. As I understand it, this eliminates the issue that happened if you, for example, do comping on the first verse and generate, say, 10 Take lanes. Then if you started comping on the second verse and also used 10 Take lanes, SONAR would not use the existing Take Lanes even though they would be empty where the second verse started...it would create new Take Lanes so now your track would have 20 take lanes or whatever. With this change, because the 10 Take lanes were empty where the second verse started, SONAR would simply record into those.
Whew...thank you sir...I was about to panic. 
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Re: SONAR 2017.02 - Comping Enhancements Reuse existing Take lanes when recording
2017/02/23 19:55:19
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Sometimes I am SONAR's Panic Prevention Unit.
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Re: SONAR 2017.02 - Comping Enhancements Reuse existing Take lanes when recording
2017/02/23 21:13:12
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Anderton
Sometimes I am SONAR's Panic Prevention Unit.
Do they call you that? And were just learning this now? Largely true.
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Re: SONAR 2017.02 - Comping Enhancements Reuse existing Take lanes when recording
2017/02/23 21:32:13
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☄ Helpfulby Mike1212 2017/04/25 23:58:55
I try not to panic, I've found it's counter-productive. I think I panic less than the Cakewalk people themselves As long as I can press record and have stuff saved, and play it back through EQ and dynamics with variable levels, I'm 95% of where I want to be. The rest is coffee and dessert.
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Re: SONAR 2017.02 - Comping Enhancements Reuse existing Take lanes when recording
2017/02/24 08:35:38
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Anderton
I try not to panic, I've found it's counter-productive...
As long as I can press record and have stuff saved, and play it back through EQ and dynamics with variable levels, I'm 95% of where I want to be. The rest is coffee and dessert.
Agreed and I don't normally panic either. Comp, via loop and take lanes, is such a big part of the way I work. When I "misread" the notes on the upcoming release, however, it did send up red flags that I needed to address. But, as it turns out, the new changes are VERY positive and welcome. THANKS BAKERS!
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Re: SONAR 2017.02 - Comping Enhancements Reuse existing Take lanes when recording
2017/02/24 08:45:01
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These Take Lane and Comping enhancements are welcome news. I can't wait to get started with these. Bravo!
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Re: SONAR 2017.02 - Comping Enhancements Reuse existing Take lanes when recording
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☄ Helpfulby dwardzala 2017/02/24 14:56:07
Thank you Bakers. This should make my workflow more flow and less work. 
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Re: SONAR 2017.02 - Comping Enhancements Reuse existing Take lanes when recording
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FCCfirstclass
Thank you Bakers. This should make my workflow more flow and less work.
Agreed!!!!!!!!!!!
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Re: SONAR 2017.02 - Comping Enhancements Reuse existing Take lanes when recording
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☄ Helpfulby soundtweaker 2017/02/27 23:35:05
I had a client here yesterday, a singer from the band Liquid Blue. I tracked vocals with her on several songs, doing multiple takes on different parts. This new feature kicked in perfectly and kept the project nice, neat, and organized. SONAR would automatically use the earliest Take Lane available (where no overlapping would occur.) Some takes were different lengths, some were in different areas. No glitches, no issues. Just problem free, efficient and smart tracking.
This is one of those things that I didn't even think about needing, but now that it was announced I thought how excellent it would be. Then I put into practice and wondered how I ever got along without it.
This is a huge improvement and I am super happy with it. Thank you Bakers!
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Re: SONAR 2017.02 - Comping Enhancements Reuse existing Take lanes when recording
2017/02/26 03:52:57
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Sylvan
I had a client here yesterday, a singer from the band Liquid Blue. I tracked vocals with her on several songs, doing multiple takes on different parts. This new feature kicked in perfectly and kept the project nice, neat, and organized. SONAR would automatically use the earliest Take Lane available (where no overlapping would occur.) Some takes were different lengths, some were in different areas. No glitches, no issues. Just problem free, efficient and smart tracking.
This is one of those things that I didn't even think about needing, but now that it was announced I thought how excellent it would be. Then I put into practice and wondered how I ever got along without it.
This is a huge improvement and I am super happy with it. Thank you Bakers!
Glad to hear it's working fine This is something I was waiting for a long time because I never could understand why e.g. tracking back vox for 4 choruses with 5 passes each would leave with 20 take lanes instead of 5 ...
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Re: SONAR 2017.02 - Comping Enhancements Reuse existing Take lanes when recording
2017/02/26 06:03:25
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If I r emember, when Cakewalk announced they were working on Ripple Editing they talked about new/improved comping and take management as well. I guess this is the first instalment of the latter. To me it seems that they are all connected in the deep down Sonar workings.
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Re: SONAR 2017.02 - Comping Enhancements Reuse existing Take lanes when recording
2017/03/27 17:32:05
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Hello,
Is there a way to desactivate the comping re-use feature ?
I have trouble when working with it. I will try to explain why with the following workflow :
- record the first take -> the recorded clip will show "record 1"
- record a second take -> the recorded clip will show "record 2"
- and so on ...
- save the project and quit sonar
- launch sonar and open the previous project
- record a further take -> the recorded clip will also show "record 1" albeit is has nothing to do with the previous "record 1"
I 'm getting very confused with what. Or do I miss something?
Thank for your help.
Jacques
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Re: SONAR 2017.02 - Comping Enhancements Reuse existing Take lanes when recording
2017/03/27 19:18:07
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So what do you want, or think, that it should do? did you want it to name the next clip record 3? I suppose that this is a possible scenario but, as you have found out, is not what Sonar does.
The clip name doesn't really have anything to do with comping. It is just a name that Sonar gives to your clip. If you do loop recording it will give it names like "Record 1 take 4".
However, there should be a new take lane created if the recording overlaps with other take lanes. If it doesn't then it will try to reuse an existing take lane. If having clips with the same name bothers you then you can rename them to whatever makes sense to you.
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Re: SONAR 2017.02 - Comping Enhancements Reuse existing Take lanes when recording
2017/03/27 21:38:07
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Take Lane re-use is about not creating new lanes when there is space in existing lanes when recording a time range that doesn't overlap earlier takes. Take naming is unrelated to this.
In the past, SONAR would remember the last take number used in an earlier session and start numbering new recordings from that point in a new session. This should happen regardless of whether take lanes are being re-used or not, but I haven't confirmed that's still working as expected.
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Re: SONAR 2017.02 - Comping Enhancements Reuse existing Take lanes when recording
2017/04/01 02:21:39
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Hello all,
Is there a way to copy take lane edits to another track?
Example: I've recorded some bass takes with different amps at the same time, every amp has its own track.
I've selected the best parts from different take lanes on 'track 1', I want the same parts from the lanes on other tracks.
Is there an easy way to do that?
Thanks in advance!
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Re: SONAR 2017.02 - Comping Enhancements Reuse existing Take lanes when recording
2017/04/01 15:07:22
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... so what you're all saying is, I can't take your lane and raise you 3... anymore?  
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