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SONAR just crashed cloning a track - I am tired of fighting SONAR today
I just had a crash to desktop trying to clone a track in this project. I have been fighting SONAR all day so far. Report was generated and dump sent to Cakewalk with my e-mail so I can be notified.
I think I am done fighting Sonar for the day. I have wasted 6 hours trying to get this project going and I have run into nothing but issues most of the day. I am going to uninstall X3E and see if that makes a difference or not when I get back to it.
8.5 did not have any of the issues I ran into today when I compared X3E and 8.5. X3E did have VST3 plugins though. I disabled them for comparisons sake though. I like some of the new features in the X series, but I am thinking about going back to 8.5 and finish this work.
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Re: SONAR just crashed cloning a track - I am tired of fighting SONAR today
2014/03/23 15:22:13
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And another crash just closing SONAR.
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Re: SONAR just crashed cloning a track - I am tired of fighting SONAR today
2014/03/23 15:27:42
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Hopefully not mixing VST2 and VST3 Waves plug-ins in the same project.
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Re: SONAR just crashed cloning a track - I am tired of fighting SONAR today
2014/03/23 15:43:43
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No, I have the option set for VST3 and using them exclusively. Thanks though. That could cause issues for sure.
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Re: SONAR just crashed cloning a track - I am tired of fighting SONAR today
2014/03/23 16:03:33
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try cloning a track with nothing in the vst, exc.
if that works well than methodically keep adding what ever it is on the cloned track that's crashing and you will find your problem.
cant say ive had any issues with cloning tracks, I do it all the time.
I typically import a track template, then clone the same one for dupe guitars, vocals, exc.
I have noticed in X# it takes a little bit longer than it did in x2 though
not minutes, just about 10 seconds longer.
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Re: SONAR just crashed cloning a track - I am tired of fighting SONAR today
2014/03/23 16:06:57
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I clone tracks all the time too. I had an earlier crash and it was reported. This time it just crashed to desktop. There were no plugins in the cloned track. It was vanilla.
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Re: SONAR just crashed cloning a track - I am tired of fighting SONAR today
2014/03/23 16:10:33
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Windows event viewer? What does that say?
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Re: SONAR just crashed cloning a track - I am tired of fighting SONAR today
2014/03/23 16:21:54
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You seem to have more problems than anyone else, even with operations that are common. I've cloned Sonar tracks with X-series DAWs hundreds of times, even back to the scary X1 beta, and never had a crash. There may be some kind of root cause to all these problem, and if so, and your time might be better spent trying to find it than constantly fighting Sonar.
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Re: SONAR just crashed cloning a track - I am tired of fighting SONAR today
2014/03/23 16:25:23
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Nothing, it was turned off. :/
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Re: SONAR just crashed cloning a track - I am tired of fighting SONAR today
2014/03/23 16:36:30
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Gee Craig, you have really stated the obvious.
Unfortunately I am not the only one fighting SONAR at times. So the statement I am having more troubles than anyone else is not too accurate. I have no issue reporting them where others may. I know people who have been so fed up with SONAR that they are on another platform. I can't afford the switch.
I think the root of my issues are that SONAR does not like older projects I am working with and can't absorb the settings at times. I have had several older projects that CW has and displayed bugs. I have also been told that CW had an issue with my older project and suggested a way to circumvent an error.
Sometimes I find valid issues as confirmed by CW TS.
I would be happy to check other things that may be wrong with my setup, where would you suggest I look? My setup is pretty stable outside of SONAR btw. I have zero issues in SF, Toontrack products, Vegas Video, etc... Did I mention that 8.5 is as solid as a Rock too?
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Re: SONAR just crashed cloning a track - I am tired of fighting SONAR today
2014/03/23 17:46:34
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I have to admit I occasionally had a few crashes when cloning tracks but I never got it in a reprodable scenario. Until we can get steps to reproduce this every time (assuming it's not system specific, in my case it probably was) there's not much that can be done as we don't know the root cause.
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Re: SONAR just crashed cloning a track - I am tired of fighting SONAR today
2014/03/23 18:39:36
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☄ Helpfulby Guitarmech111 2014/03/23 18:38:10
I get fairly frequent crashes on two different and in my opinion well maintained systems. By frequent I mean usually once during a multi hour session (in other words, whenever I actually sit down to work). I haven't been able to reproduce any since the Waves VST2/3 thingy, but it sure is annoying as hell. Most of the time, I don't get the Sonar error handler.
I do a lot of vocal editing and comping, earlier today Sonar kept copying instead of moving a clip, then it hung and crashed. I realize this is not helpful in an error solving way but I just wanted to show some support for Guitarmech. I've been there, and it's a little lame to blame the system or the user. Sonar is not bug-free, and while I greatly respect and applaud the way the bakers have been supporting us and the current release, there are some strides to make to catch up with ProTools, Logic, or even Ableton when it comes to stability.
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Re: SONAR just crashed cloning a track - I am tired of fighting SONAR today
2014/03/23 18:42:01
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☄ Helpfulby FuddyDuddy 2014/03/25 13:22:54
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I would be happy to check other things that may be wrong with my setup, where would you suggest I look? My setup is pretty stable outside of SONAR btw. I have zero issues in SF, Toontrack products, Vegas Video, etc... Did I mention that 8.5 is as solid as a Rock too?
I am sorry you don't approve of my posting issues and you can't grasp what I may be running into or why I do something in a particular way. If you want to gather a collection for Protools HD for me, I would gladly switch platforms. Right now, I can't afford it or I would check it or Studio one out.
We all fight all software at some point (check out my adventure today with Addictive Drums). Sonar has been very stable for me, but I have various problems with Vegas (had a freeze during render yesterday, and also, certain images cause problems even though other images with the same file formats do not). Sound Forge loop points aren't always recognized by SFZ instruments although some are, yet WaveLab's always are...yet Wavelab can recognize Sound Forge's loop points. Pro Tools on my Windows setup can't do latencies below a minimum of 512 samples without crashing although all my other audio programs can do 128 or better (although I haven't updated to PT V11 so maybe those problems are fixed...I don't know). You can post all you want, but it's really frustrating that you keep running into so many problems that I cannot reproduce and in some cases, don't understand fully because I'm not sure of the exact circumstances. This is why it is also hard for others to help. But if the main problem involves issues with older projects, I sympathize. I learned MANY years ago that NO software can be trusted to open old versions, and that includes programs like Word and Excel. The programs change, the formats change, the operating systems change. As a result I have written articles about why it is essential to save ALL DATA in an agnostic format. If you look at my Sonar projects, they all have rendered WAV versions of everything, often in two or three different versions (raw, with all effects and automation, and with automation only). Unfortunately, the only chance you have of opening up an old Sonar project is with Sonar; Pro Tools won't help you there. But if 8.5 works, why not open the projects there, export the raw audio data or a variation thereof, and bring it into X3 to take advantage of its features? Sure, it's a PITA to back up data to this degree, but you have to do it. I have articles in my archives that were originally written to 8" floppy disks using WordStar on an M/PM computer in the late 70s and I can still access them, because I "refreshed" them occasionally into newer formats. I'm sorry to say that has to be done with any data you ever want to use in the future, but this is the tradeoff for using software in today's world.
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Re: SONAR just crashed cloning a track - I am tired of fighting SONAR today
2014/03/23 19:43:17
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I do a lot of vocal editing and comping, earlier today Sonar kept copying instead of moving a clip, then it hung and crashed. I realize this is not helpful in an error solving way but I just wanted to show some support for Guitarmech. I've been there, and it's a little lame to blame the system or the user. Sonar is not bug-free.
It definitely is not...then again, what software is? But it's important to differentiate between bugs that are found by multiple users and reproducible, vs. one-offs that happen to an individual user. In the latter case, the only options are 1) there's something about the system (we all know about graphics card and backwards compatibility issues, for example), 2) there's something about the user (e.g., hitting a keyboard shortcut by accident and unleashing something strange, or not understanding the subtleties of a particular function), and/or 3) doing some operation that should be valid and should work but is done rarely so other users haven't found it. But when a problem is something as basic as turning a panpot isn't reflected in the meters, I find it really hard to believe it's an inherent fault in the software - wouldn't lots of others have noticed it? It took until the 10th post until it was mentioned off-handedly that the problems happen mostly when loading older projects. That's a HUGE missing piece of data. If I'd known, I would have said "Sorry can't help with that, all my 8.5 projects were transferred over to X-series years ago," and be done with it. Instead, here I am spending a Sunday afternoon trying to reproduce these errors so I can help, only to find out all my efforts are wasted because I'm not trying to work with older projects in current software. No wonder I can't reproduce the problems with a new project created specifically to try and reproduce the problem!! It's also wrong to pretend that the kind of problems we experience with Sonar are unique. I've used a huge variety of software and the longer you use it, the more you find that's wrong. Take at look at the front page of any software forum, or for that matter anything that involves microprocessors (or better yet, Google '[name of program] problems"). Not only will you find enough to keep you busy for months, many of the issues are the same problems people have with Sonar - fourth question down in the Ableton forums right now is "Why Doesn't Mixdown Match the Playback?" As a soon as you use a computer in your work, you are going to run into multiple problems. Those problems may differ - someone might find Cubase crashes all the time while Sonar doesn't, or vice-versa - but the fact is the number of variables a computer introduces into what we do, especially with a program that's tied really tightly to an OS instead of being a port, is mind-boggling. And as I've said many times before, it's only going to get worse and compatibility issues - especially backward compatibility - are only going to get more problematic. So you either put up with occasional crashes, switch programs and hope you don't experience the same problems other people have (then again you might experience different ones), or go back to tape machines...which of course never had any issues 
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Re: SONAR just crashed cloning a track - I am tired of fighting SONAR today
2014/03/23 20:11:28
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I would be happy to check other things that may be wrong with my setup, where would you suggest I look? My setup is pretty stable outside of SONAR btw. I have zero issues in SF, Toontrack products, Vegas Video, etc... Did I mention that 8.5 is as solid as a Rock too?
I am sorry you don't approve of my posting issues and you can't grasp what I may be running into or why I do something in a particular way. If you want to gather a collection for Protools HD for me, I would gladly switch platforms. Right now, I can't afford it or I would check it or Studio one out.
We all fight all software at some point (check out my adventure today with Addictive Drums). Sonar has been very stable for me, but I have various problems with Vegas (had a freeze during render yesterday, and also, certain images cause problems even though other images with the same file formats do not). Sound Forge loop points aren't always recognized by SFZ instruments although some are, yet WaveLab's always are...yet Wavelab can recognize Sound Forge's loop points. Pro Tools on my Windows setup can't do latencies below a minimum of 512 samples without crashing although all my other audio programs can do 128 or better (although I haven't updated to PT V11 so maybe those problems are fixed...I don't know).
You can post all you want, but it's really frustrating that you keep running into so many problems that I cannot reproduce and in some cases, don't understand fully because I'm not sure of the exact circumstances. This is why it is also hard for others to help.
But if the main problem involves issues with older projects, I sympathize. I learned MANY years ago that NO software can be trusted to open old versions, and that includes programs like Word and Excel. The programs change, the formats change, the operating systems change. As a result I have written articles about why it is essential to save ALL DATA in an agnostic format. If you look at my Sonar projects, they all have rendered WAV versions of everything, often in two or three different versions (raw, with all effects and automation, and with automation only). Unfortunately, the only chance you have of opening up an old Sonar project is with Sonar; Pro Tools won't help you there. But if 8.5 works, why not open the projects there, export the raw audio data or a variation thereof, and bring it into X3 to take advantage of its features?
Sure, it's a PITA to back up data to this degree, but you have to do it. I have articles in my archives that were originally written to 8" floppy disks using WordStar on an M/PM computer in the late 70s and I can still access them, because I "refreshed" them occasionally into newer formats. I'm sorry to say that has to be done with any data you ever want to use in the future, but this is the tradeoff for using software in today's world.
You can be sure that if I thought it was necessary to mention something I certainly would have. Several of the recent projects I have worked on are from older version of the projects created in prior versions of SONAR. I believe I have stated that in prior threads although I do not expect everyone to memorize my posts. In the mainframe software world, which I have been a part of for over 30 years, backwards compatibility is key. If the federal reserve was not able to open some databases that were created in prior versions of the software I was a part of, countries would have gone under for a short amount of time. You would not be able to withdraw money from an ATM or your insurance company would not have any records of your coverage or treatments. SONAR is nowhere near that critical in nature to most. ;) Maybe my expectation for a software to be backwards compatible is not warranted with SONAR, but I certainly expect that if SONAR has associations with WRK files that it would appropriately be able to import them without issues. Fortunately my older projects were CWP files and work for the most part. Any abnormal behavior is not expected. If it was, I am sure people would be preparing for it. I know I certainly would have. My biggest frustrations are trying to do the simplest of things that should and have worked prior, but no longer work that way for one reason or another. I tried to import these project files to a new X3 project. The envelopes did not translate well and that frustrated me even more. I may have to go to 8.5 and bounce all clips then export them as broadcast wave files and then import them to a new project. I know how to do all that, it is just that I hate having to because a current version of the software does not tolerate older projects, if that is even the case here. I appreciate your concern for the product and trying to understand what I am doing. I believe you are truly trying to grasp the issue. Me too. I just wish I knew what it could be. I will definitely be on the horn tomorrow with TS and likely sending them my project.
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Re: SONAR just crashed cloning a track - I am tired of fighting SONAR today
2014/03/23 20:33:10
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FWIW, I have opened wrk files from all the way back to 1999 in the X versions. The first thing I do is a "Save As" with the X version in the name. I have done that to make sure the project file is written to the "current" X-version standard (since it has evolved over time). After that point, I have not encountered issues with the project file (but loses plugs often, LOL). It made me curious when you said "I tried to import these project files to a new X3 project."
Have you simply opened the old projects, saved them as a cwp with a new name, and then worked from there? I am not trying to be confrontational, but am trying to understand your work flow.
Edit: I did not even own SONAR until ~2004, so these wrk files are either from "Guitar Tracks" or "Home Studio"
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Re: SONAR just crashed cloning a track - I am tired of fighting SONAR today
2014/03/23 20:35:51
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It made me curious when you said "I tried to import these project files to a new X3 project."
Have you simply opened the old projects, saved them as a cwp with a new name, and then worked from there? I am not trying to be confrontational, but am trying to understand your work flow.
Yes, that is how I do it. I do a save as and rename the project with the current date and such with the newer versions of SONAR. No confrontation at all. :)
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Re: SONAR just crashed cloning a track - I am tired of fighting SONAR today
2014/03/23 21:01:02
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In the mainframe software world, which I have been a part of for over 30 years, backwards compatibility is key. If the federal reserve was not able to open some databases that were created in prior versions of the software I was a part of, countries would have gone under for a short amount of time. You would not be able to withdraw money from an ATM or your insurance company would not have any records of your coverage or treatments. SONAR is nowhere near that critical in nature to most. ;)
You've hit the nail on the head: the closer something is to consumer software, the more likely it will be ephemeral. Apple vs. Microsoft is a good example. Microsoft is much more concerned about backward compatibility because it's used so much in business; Apple not as much. I have much more Apple OS roadkill than Microsoft OS roadkill. But the backward compatibility thing is an issue, too. When you hear news stories about the IRS or air traffic controllers or NASA being hobbled by old technology, it's because they're locked into it. I can't imagine what it would take to start over at, for example, the IRS from scratch. So, I gave up years ago and just assumed that anything I did would be useless in a few years unless I went out of my way to insure that didn't happen; that required not only vigilant backup, but vigilant format conversion. As just one example, I sure bet on the wrong horse with WMA and ATRAC...
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Re: SONAR just crashed cloning a track - I am tired of fighting SONAR today
2014/03/24 10:28:18
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and yet another crash to desktop deleting tracks...
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Re: SONAR just crashed cloning a track - I am tired of fighting SONAR today
2014/03/24 10:54:39
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No crash for me today, in a whole day of vocal and piano recording and editing! Although I did get one phasing track when I Melodyned a clip. Consistently happened until I exited and reopened Sonar.
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Re: SONAR just crashed cloning a track - I am tired of fighting SONAR today
2014/03/24 10:56:10
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If it is crashing to desktop, it may possibly be something to do with the graphics card, sorry for stating the obvious, but check that you have the latest drivers for that. I once had a similar issue and that was the main cause.
I've not had a perfectly smooth run with sonar, but so far it's been the only one I can get on with consistantly and don't mind staring at it's interface for ages (still prefer the Sonar 8 though lol) I've been able to trace most of my issues by using a mixture of the process manager, event viewer and service manager. I noticed you mention that you have disabled the event viewer >.< that would have been an ideal place to start as this tends to log most things and you would be surprised at what OUTSIDE of Sonar can cause issues whilst it's running.
It might be worth running a scan on your RAM, to check you are not having issues here. Also check that none of the features of the graphics card are causing it to overclock or switch from 2d/3d mode whilst you are using it as this would also cause something along the lines of which you are experiencing.
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Re: SONAR just crashed cloning a track - I am tired of fighting SONAR today
2014/03/24 10:56:15
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Re: SONAR just crashed cloning a track - I am tired of fighting SONAR today
2014/03/24 11:55:30
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Thanks y'all. memory is good. Ran memtest a bit ago. Graphics card drivers are up to date. My gut tells me it is a SONAR issue.
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Re: SONAR just crashed cloning a track - I am tired of fighting SONAR today
2014/03/24 14:26:03
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If your able to reliably reproduce crashing in this project perhaps you could try changing the driver mode to mme and use your on board sound card. If the problems go away it may point to an interaction between Sonar and your RME driver?
Edit:
For some reason I think your using RME. Using mobile so I can't see your sig.
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Re: SONAR just crashed cloning a track - I am tired of fighting SONAR today
2014/03/24 15:25:23
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WDI
If your able to reliably reproduce crashing in this project perhaps you could try changing the driver mode to mme and use your on board sound card.
Now that's clever thinking....
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Re: SONAR just crashed cloning a track - I am tired of fighting SONAR today
2014/03/24 18:56:11
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None of these crashes are reproducible.
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Re: SONAR just crashed cloning a track - I am tired of fighting SONAR today
2014/03/24 19:13:44
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Hi, Conley.
I just noticed a recent release of the RME UFX audio interface drivers and a flash utility for a firmware update. Both are dated 2/27/2014.
Are you running with those?
Also, and I don't know if you have mentioned this before, but is your Windows system maintenance up to current levels?
Additionally, it is my understanding that you have switched off the Windows Event Viewer, and I am wondering why you might have done that, as I would think there might be relevant and helpful info in there, with all of your crashes.
Thanks,
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Re: SONAR just crashed cloning a track - I am tired of fighting SONAR today
2014/03/24 19:28:18
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Conley - I looked up your motherboard, and it looks like it uses a VIA VT6308P FireWire chip - which is NOT a Texas Instruments chip.
I am wondering if your problems are possibly due to a compatibility issue with that. Are you plugging your audio interface directly into the FireWire port on the back panel of your motherboard?
I am thinking that it might make sense for you to pick up an inexpensive FireWire PCIe card, where it uses a Texas Instruments chip set, which seem to have fewer issues. It would be super simple to test out, and if it didn't make things more stable you could always return it.
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Re: SONAR just crashed cloning a track - I am tired of fighting SONAR today
2014/03/24 20:00:14
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Thx all,
Bob, I am using a USB connection for my card, maintenance is up to date also. I also have the latest driver and bios from RME. I have always had random crashes with SONAR. This is not new to X3e, these are just what I am reporting while using X3e.
I did not realize the event viewer was off at the time, but it is now enabled. :) Hopefully I will be able to see something that may provide some more help.
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Re: SONAR just crashed cloning a track - I am tired of fighting SONAR today
2014/03/24 21:02:13
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Crazy question - is the RME plugged into USB 2 or USB 3? (my Presonus freaks when it is plugged into a USB 3 port).
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