dr.hashmk3


I suggested a few months ago and I maintain that the desktop computer is dead.  The laptop system is still not perfect one being cheap usb and firewire chipsets (I have had a few issues and am having one at the moment) but in terms of power, a laptop even a 1000 dollar one has more than enough power for audio.

The one thing that tips it over the edge is access to a UAD laptop card increasing your plug in power exponentially.

I will never go back, although I have a couple of Creamware cards and may soon in the near future set up a desktop and patch it into my current system.

Apart from that why bother with all the problems associated with setting up a desktop, for the most part I have been able to use my laptop/interface and software without configuring windows seven right out of the box.

Here is my tip's for getting a laptop for musical production one, make sure it has an express card slot.  Very important if you are going use a UAD DSP card and it is fundamental to have some DSP no matter how powerful your computer is.

Two an e-sata port again important because it allows you to hook in a second hard drive, if you don't have a laptop with a two hard drive configuration.

Finally check the quality of your USB and Firewire chipsets.

P.S of course all this information is almost obsolete (the problem with technology) laptops are now starting to phase out express card slots.  E-Sata is being replaced with usb3 and usb 3 is being replaced with thunderbolt.

Dr.Hash
www.aaudiomystiks.com

pinguinotuerto


So then why be on a laptop if you don't like it? And why come crash our laptop-love-fest?

Kroneborge


 But I think the statement that desktops will disapear is unlikely to say the least.

Kroneborge

dr.hashmk3


I suggested a few months ago and I maintain that the desktop computer is dead.  The laptop system is still not perfect one being cheap usb and firewire chipsets (I have had a few issues and am having one at the moment) but in terms of power, a laptop even a 1000 dollar one has more than enough power for audio.

The one thing that tips it over the edge is access to a UAD laptop card increasing your plug in power exponentially.

I will never go back, although I have a couple of Creamware cards and may soon in the near future set up a desktop and patch it into my current system.

Apart from that why bother with all the problems associated with setting up a desktop, for the most part I have been able to use my laptop/interface and software without configuring windows seven right out of the box.

Here is my tip's for getting a laptop for musical production one, make sure it has an express card slot.  Very important if you are going use a UAD DSP card and it is fundamental to have some DSP no matter how powerful your computer is.

Two an e-sata port again important because it allows you to hook in a second hard drive, if you don't have a laptop with a two hard drive configuration.

Finally check the quality of your USB and Firewire chipsets.

P.S of course all this information is almost obsolete (the problem with technology) laptops are now starting to phase out express card slots.  E-Sata is being replaced with usb3 and usb 3 is being replaced with thunderbolt.

Dr.Hash
www.aaudiomystiks.com

I actually don't like laptops (even though I'm on one now).   I hate how everything is crammed together on the keyboard.  Sure I can use a docking station, but why not just use a desktop?

Unless you are traveling, you can get more computer for less money with a desktop.   Plus how are you going to get 3 hard drives etc in a laptop? 

Laptops are great if you need to be mobile, but if you don't need to be, then why bother.
 
You did not read my post properly, I suggested that you needed an e-sata port this allows you to hook in at least one extra hard drive and in my case I have two running on I suppose you would call it a dock.  Or if you have one I think USB 3 solves this problem.
 
Second if you were going to do field work and needed to record 8 tracks at once the internal hard drive is more than powerful enough, I have seen it done.
 
Finally if you are worried about the keyboard just use a wireless one, at the moment I am using a wireless keyboard and mouse, and if you need a bigger screen just plug an 80 cm HD tv into the HDMI slot.
 
The question then becomes one of WHY A DESKTOP????
 
dr.hash
www.aaudiomystiks.com

Kroneborge


Oh, I see, so if you do a bunch of stuff to make a laptop not a laptop then it's almost as good as a desktop just more expensive.

With my desktop, I don't need a small screen I would never use, or a tiny keyboard that i would never use.   I do need the space for 3+ hard drives, and a double slot graphics card (I would like to see you fit a GRX 275 in a laptop, lol then thing would melt).  

Note what I said, I NEVER need to do field work.   If I did, I would get a laptop, because the laptops are GREAT for being mobile, but in all other circumstances they do less and cost more.

So why a desktop?

Because I don't need mobility and want to spend the extra cash on something else.

pinguinotuerto


Ok, no more fighting.   Krone, we know you don't like LT's that much.  The rest of us do, so let's call it a truce.

dr.hashmk3

Kroneborge


Oh, I see, so if you do a bunch of stuff to make a laptop not a laptop then it's almost as good as a desktop just more expensive.

With my desktop, I don't need a small screen I would never use, or a tiny keyboard that i would never use.   I do need the space for 3+ hard drives, and a double slot graphics card (I would like to see you fit a GRX 275 in a laptop, lol then thing would melt).  

Note what I said, I NEVER need to do field work.   If I did, I would get a laptop, because the laptops are GREAT for being mobile, but in all other circumstances they do less and cost more.

So why a desktop?

Because I don't need mobility and want to spend the extra cash on something else.

 
 
Once again you are missing the point, the point is flexibility.  Yes it can be hooked up to all this periphery gear but it then can be unhooked and off we go and we can record in the park, a pub or anywhere you like.
 
The keyword here is flexibility!!!!!
 
Dr.Hash
www.aaudiomystiks.com

pinguinotuerto


I tried!

DayDay72


I love laptops, but Laptops for Sonar is not a very good idea at this time.  I like mobility, but cannot compromise on the lack of  performance that even an i7 lappy has, in comparison to a desktop.  I'd wait on a lappy until the DPC issue is addressed.  Perhaps I am spoiled with 1-2ms latency, and the issue of return latency.....I mean I would like to record vocals, and instruments on the fly, but I need my throughput efx to be just as tight....at current, there are not any new laptops that can handle the task professionally

DayDay72


I love laptops, but Laptops for Sonar is not a very good idea at this time.  I like mobility, but cannot compromise on the lack of  performance that even an i7 lappy has, in comparison to a desktop.  I'd wait on a lappy until the DPC issue is addressed.  Perhaps I am spoiled with 1-2ms latency, and the issue of return latency.....I mean I would like to record vocals, and instruments on the fly, but I need my throughput efx to be just as tight....at current, there are not any new laptops that can handle the task professionally

DayDay72

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DayDay72


I love laptops, but Laptops for Sonar is not a very good idea at this time.  I like mobility, but cannot compromise on the lack of  performance that even an i7 lappy has, in comparison to a desktop.  I'd wait on a lappy until the DPC issue is addressed.  Perhaps I am spoiled with 1-2ms latency, and the issue of return latency.....I mean I would like to record vocals, and instruments on the fly, but I need my throughput efx to be just as tight....at current, there are not any new laptops that can handle the task professionally

I have many issues with this statement.  There are many ways to monitor with negligible latency on laptops (or any system) it just depends on what interface/control panel software you're using. I record drums (8 tracks at once), vocals and any other miked or direct instrument you can imagine with no latency problems whatsoever.  I can run over 50 audio tracks with tons of plugins with no hiccups and my cpu, drive and memory meters are happy as pie.  So to say what you're saying means that I'm either hallucinating, or that you haven't used a newer laptop with a good audio interface.

Simply put, I like to record thru VST's (ie amplitude), with professional results...I also like to record and monitor vocal effects in real time...I am certain that the newer PC's will not allow this for professional results.....I could spend x amount of dollars and get a RME usb, but for that money, I could build a mini.....I like to work @64 samples as a maximum....you said negligible latency, I am speaking of mimimal latency....but I aint mad at you, enjoy your lappy....I'll just wait until the performance specs pars with the capability of my software..... The poster stated that his latency was 10ms for midi....That for me is unacceptable...I am currently working with 2ms....