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Re: SONAR "Dorchester" now available
2015/04/30 12:41:28
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I'm diggin' the monthly updates, fixes and new content. Not everyone will have a use for everything the Bakers give to us monthly but the beauty of receiving these tools is our work flow improves and our library of content and effects expands so we have a lot at our disposal. I personally have not used some of the items but when I am looking for that sound to enhance a guitar solo or vocal I have plenty to choose from. It is especially useful when I record other artists with varied styles to have an extensive library and tools at my disposal.. Keep up the good work Bakers and I'll take all the creative effects Graig can provide. Here's to great recordings !
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Re: SONAR "Dorchester" now available
2015/04/30 13:01:41
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djwayne
I went to the command center but could not find the "Dorchester' download...please help....
If the "Light" beside SONAR Platinum is Yellow there is an update there. Click and select "Update" (Edit) - I see you deleted your post so probably got it sorted. If not, please post back with any issues
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Re: SONAR "Dorchester" now available
2015/04/30 15:33:57
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i had to click the update button to start the download. a couple of questions I notice the Command Center does not have download options for things I purchased in the past, like the old format did. Second, do you know the build number of the Dorchester update as seen in the "About" section ?? ??
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Re: SONAR "Dorchester" now available
2015/04/30 16:35:41
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djwayne
.......... Second, do you know the build number of the Dorchester update as seen in the "About" section ?? ??
Mine says 21.3.00 Build 20
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Re: SONAR "Dorchester" now available
2015/04/30 19:40:56
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I was hoping the "drum replacer" that's been mentioned would be in here. Maybe we'll get that in East Boston. I hope it's along the lines of Ableton's drum racks, i.e. a host-integrated drum machine that renders the need for 3rd party products like Battery obsolete.
But perhaps it's premature for Cakewalk to be building such a feature. Ableton and Bitwig's drum machines leverage their product's host-integrated samplers by placing a sample engine on each cell of the drum machine. Sonar doesn't have a host-integrated sampler. Hey Cakewalk, how about giving us a host-integrated sampler? It's only been what, 25 years?
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Re: SONAR "Dorchester" now available
2015/04/30 20:10:18
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joel77
djwayne
.......... Second, do you know the build number of the Dorchester update as seen in the "About" section ?? ??
Mine says 21.3.00 Build 20
Yep, that's what mine says as well....
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Re: SONAR "Dorchester" now available
2015/04/30 23:06:16
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I'm having a strange problem after downloading Dorchester. After installing the update, the button for Sonar Platinum stays yellow, even though all the elements in it have been installed and have green lights. After doing the update once or twice more, the light is still yellow, and I noticed that CCC still says "Cambridge" with a link about the new update being available.
I have both 64 bit and 32 bit installed. Now, when I try to open the 32 bit, I get an error message:
"The program can't start because CWVideoEngine.dll is missing from your computer. Try reinstalling the program to fix the problem."
I reinstalled Sonar Platinum 32 bit from ProgramData\Cakewalk\Command Center\Downloads, but I get the same error message when I try to open it.
Please help.
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Re: SONAR "Dorchester" now available
2015/05/01 01:54:36
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You need to click on the Sonar part of it to install Sonar the program. Its kinda of annoying.
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Re: SONAR "Dorchester" now available
2015/05/01 02:15:10
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☄ Helpfulby Notecrusher 2015/05/03 00:07:11
Real MIDI workflow improvement will be if you incorporate drawing cc into multiple tracks at same time in Piano Roll. Instead of this you remove option to select and move same CC on multiple tracks showed in Piano Roll. Now we must move them track by track. Or is it possible? In X3 it works fine. I posted this on request months ago. MIDI should radically improve instead of implementig some IRs or Pedal boards which we are using top notch from third party developers. You should stick more with improving functionality of your core product. Peace.
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Re: SONAR "Dorchester" now available
2015/05/01 02:32:52
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John
You need to click on the Sonar part of it to install Sonar the program. Its kinda of annoying.
That's what I have been doing. After it finishes the update, the light is still yellow. When I click on Sonar, the update button is still there. I even did a system restore back more than a week and I still can't open Sonar 32 bit.
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Re: SONAR "Dorchester" now available
2015/05/01 07:45:18
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TimV
I have both 64 bit and 32 bit installed. Now, when I try to open the 32 bit, I get an error message:
"The program can't start because CWVideoEngine.dll is missing from your computer. Try reinstalling the program to fix the problem."
Please help.
Seems CWVideoEngine.dll is related to video .. Have you the latest video card drivers installed for your puter? Also I came across this: https://www.cakewalk.com/Support/Knowledge-Base/2007013353/SONAR-X3d-Launch-Error-for-Missing-MF-dll
I wonder is it sort of related to that - though a different DLL? Grasping at straws I know .. but
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Re: SONAR "Dorchester" now available
2015/05/01 09:25:03
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Notecrusher
I was hoping the "drum replacer" that's been mentioned would be in here. Maybe we'll get that in East Boston. I hope it's along the lines of Ableton's drum racks, i.e. a host-integrated drum machine that renders the need for 3rd party products like Battery obsolete.
A drum replacer is different from a drum machine. It's designed to replace drum sounds in existing audio tracks. For example, if you have a kick drum track but the kick sound is sub-standard, you can replace it with a different sound. It brings to audio drum tracks a functionality similar to MIDI where you can trigger different drum sounds.
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Re: SONAR "Dorchester" now available
2015/05/01 09:28:26
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☄ Helpfulby gswitz 2015/05/02 04:29:02
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MIDI should radically improve instead of implementig some IRs or Pedal boards which we are using top notch from third party developers. You should stick more with improving functionality of your core product. Peace.
I've explained this many times, but the content I provide is independent of what happens at Cakewalk. Having IRs or pedalboards does not impact Cakewalk's programmers, other than including the content in the installer. If I did not do loops, samples, instruments, IRs, effects, presets, etc. that would not free up ANY time for those working on the program. Have you actually tried the IRs? I've never seen anything equivalent to them from third party developers, and all the comments so far from users have been very favorable (they also seem to like the pedalboards). [FWIW, I am a third party developer and have done sound design and content for Steinberg, Wizoo, Ensoniq, Emu, Native Instruments, Alesis, Gibson, Roland, Peavey, Big Fish Audio, M-Audio, etc.]
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Re: SONAR "Dorchester" now available
2015/05/01 09:52:52
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This is great. More and more bugs are fixed!! And a few long-standing, workflow-killing ones for me have been fixed too in this update!!! If my calculation is correct, Sonar will be a bug-free daw by the end of year...... (hopefully  )
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Re: SONAR "Dorchester" now available
2015/05/01 10:52:04
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aidanodr
TimV
I have both 64 bit and 32 bit installed. Now, when I try to open the 32 bit, I get an error message:
"The program can't start because CWVideoEngine.dll is missing from your computer. Try reinstalling the program to fix the problem."
Please help.
Seems CWVideoEngine.dll is related to video ..
Have you the latest video card drivers installed for your puter?
Also I came across this:
https://www.cakewalk.com/Support/Knowledge-Base/2007013353/SONAR-X3d-Launch-Error-for-Missing-MF-dll
I wonder is it sort of related to that - though a different DLL?
Grasping at straws I know .. but
Thanks for the input. I can't imagine that being the problem, since this didn't happen until I tried the upgrade. Yesterday I was using both 64 bit and 32 bit versions without an issue. As of now, 64 bit opens as does X3 32 bit. The only problem is with Platinum 32 bit. Why would it all of a sudden require this file when it never did before? And why only SPlat 32? Could it be a problem with CCC? I've noticed that when I click on Sonar, it still says Cambridge, not Dorchester. I didn't notice that at first. I didn't occur to me to check, I just clicked on the update button. It seemed odd that after updating the light stayed yellow and the update button stays there instead of changing to reinstall as it used to. Of course, it could well be some ne'er-do-well screwing with my computer. Virus scans haven't turned up anything, but who knows? It looks like I have a busy day ahead not making music.
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Re: SONAR "Dorchester" now available
2015/05/01 10:57:00
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TimV
Thanks for the input.
I can't imagine that being the problem, since this didn't happen until I tried the upgrade. Yesterday I was using both 64 bit and 32 bit versions without an issue. As of now, 64 bit opens as does X3 32 bit. The only problem is with Platinum 32 bit. Why would it all of a sudden require this file when it never did before? And why only SPlat 32?
Could it be a problem with CCC? I've noticed that when I click on Sonar, it still says Cambridge, not Dorchester. I didn't notice that at first. I didn't occur to me to check, I just clicked on the update button. It seemed odd that after updating the light stayed yellow and the update button stays there instead of changing to reinstall as it used to.
Of course, it could well be some ne'er-do-well screwing with my computer. Virus scans haven't turned up anything, but who knows? It looks like I have a busy day ahead not making music.
A recent windows update perhaps, even one of those optional driver updates for a device in your computer? If malware checking go use malwarebytes ( www.malwarebytes.org ) - its free. Best tip is FIRST clear out all temp folders in windows manually and also temp internet folders. Faster scan :D
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Re: SONAR "Dorchester" now available
2015/05/01 11:28:57
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I tried out a midi test recording sample last night....Sonar Platinum is smooth as silk !!!!! Awesome !!!!
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Re: SONAR "Dorchester" now available
2015/05/01 11:36:00
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Anderton
Have you actually tried the IRs? I've never seen anything equivalent to them from third party developers.
Altiverb 7 and SIR 2 created IRs with Knufinke Pinguin are both unbeatable IMHO. But I am not saying anything about you and your work. I am talking about Sonar product and their developers.
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Re: SONAR "Dorchester" now available
2015/05/01 11:38:38
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BluerecordingStudios
Anderton
Have you actually tried the IRs? I've never seen anything equivalent to them from third party developers.
Altiverb 7 and SIR 2 created IRs with Knufinke Pinguin are both unbeatable IMHO. But I am not saying anything about you and your work. I am talking about Sonar product and their developers.
Just curious, do they include synthetic and backwards reverbs for the kind of applications I describe (EDM and sound design, respectively)? If so I want to check them out and see how they compare.
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Re: SONAR "Dorchester" now available
2015/05/01 11:40:16
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aidanodr
A recent windows update perhaps, even one of those optional driver updates for a device in your computer?
If malware checking go use malwarebytes ( www.malwarebytes.org ) - its free. Best tip is FIRST clear out all temp folders in windows manually and also temp internet folders. Faster scan :D
If using an anti-virus program, disable it before installation. Some of them don't like things downloaded from the internet that alter your system.
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Re: SONAR "Dorchester" now available
2015/05/01 12:28:25
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@TimV aidanodr was on the right lines I think. This looks like a missing or corrupted library needed from the Windows base. Try installing: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/968211 (for Windows 7). If that does not work the C++ libraries probably need upgrading, I don't know what version of C++ Platinum requires, perhaps somebody could link to it. You probably need to check windows update for updates inc optional updates as well, the optional updates may indeed contain the C++ libraries you require.
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Re: SONAR "Dorchester" now available
2015/05/01 15:20:51
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Andrew Rossa [Cakewalk]
We are pleased to announce that SONAR "Dorchester" is now available for download from Cakewalk Command Center. Enjoy!
See what's new here: http://www.cakewalk.com/Products/SONAR/Whats-New
Looks like some interesting updates in this, but cant see the Drum Replacer anywhere. Am I missing it ? And its just not clear which update files specifically to download for the Dorchester release over the Cambridge build neither in the web account list nor in the Command center. Some clarity on this will help please.
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Re: SONAR "Dorchester" now available
2015/05/01 16:53:05
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Whether you use Sonar presets or not, it's not really aimed at people who are already established with their own setup. To be fair, the fact these are provided to you is because you are subscribed and should get something for the money, no?
Besides the bug fixes...if it was only that wouldn't people complain? So I find that a rather condescending and selfish train of thought. You know some DAW software don't offer much in the way of plug-ins or presets, so I for one do appreciate the 'Bakers' efforts.
Anyway that's all I wanted to get off my chest. I ran the update although manually update my VST's so I'll need to run the process. This wasn't aimed at anyone in particular.
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Re: SONAR "Dorchester" now available
2015/05/01 17:38:34
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installing the Dorchester upgrade, my command centre showed a Windows security warning that a certificate was invalid. The upgrade worked nonetheless. But disconcerting to someone not confident with computers.
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Doktor Avalanche
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Re: SONAR "Dorchester" now available
2015/05/01 21:00:22
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Your certificate database is not up to date because nobody else experienced the same problem. Or some other config issue. Your environment is what is disconcerting here.
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Re: SONAR "Dorchester" now available
2015/05/02 00:23:49
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Notecrusher
Susan G
I'm sorta kinda starting to regret my full buy-in to Platinum
Why?
Because I think I might have been better off paying monthly until I could start to see how things were developing in terms of bug fixes and FRs. -Susan
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Re: SONAR "Dorchester" now available
2015/05/02 04:18:47
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Susan G
Notecrusher
Susan G
I'm sorta kinda starting to regret my full buy-in to Platinum
Why?
Because I think I might have been better off paying monthly until I could start to see how things were developing in terms of bug fixes and FRs.
-Susan
The trouble with that is that if you had monthly payments and you werent sattisfied with one months upgrade ,you would still pay because you would wonder if it will get better or that maybe you are going to miss out on something. On the other hand ,if you stopped your payments before the end of the year you would not be able to keep what you had paid for already. Hard Call.
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Re: SONAR "Dorchester" now available
2015/05/02 10:44:43
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WOW... I just read the PDF. You have been some "busy beavers" at "La Bakery"! Thank you!
I think that Sonar is the DAW of the future (actually of the NOW) some just don't yet realize it. I don't understand why more "pros" don't dump that expensive "protuul" software and it's insanely expensive HW and leave the dark side for good!
That isn't the sun on the horizon, it is SONAR.
J
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Re: SONAR "Dorchester" now available
2015/05/02 11:22:57
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Susan G
I'm sorta kinda starting to regret my full buy-in to Platinum
Notecrusher
Why?
Susan G
Because I think I might have been better off paying monthly until I could start to see how things were developing in terms of bug fixes and FRs.
-Susan
It's obviously developing quite nicely. Drum maps a MIDI issues finally sorted - wow! Whole load of bugs quashed - great.... It seems like they are tacking everything like a steam roller. Every month though somebody is going to be disappointed because their issue isn't fixed or something... I'm annoyed with a couple of minor issues myself for instance, mainly because it shows that some regression issues don't get prioritised more than anything (yes the control bar did get fixed but that was high profile). A regression issue is always a step backwards, new issues are not cool... I am guessing you really must have specifics in mind to come up with that statement I'd be really interested to know what it is.... :)
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Re: SONAR "Dorchester" now available
2015/05/02 12:35:48
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On another note...
Last night I installed Dorchester on my main DAW... All went well but I had a series of crashes when simply changing between projects for playback...
I'm guessing it had something to do with rogue plugins, but I'm using essentially all Sonar+bundled devices...
Except for a 32bit vst version of VSampler 3.52 which I must use to access my favorite bass (Will Lee's Sadowsky 5-string from back in my gigastudio days)... I'm guessing this is the culprit but it hasn't caused such trouble previously...
And all the tracks are frozen so none of the vsti's are even loaded?
Keni
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