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Samplers in Sonar and usage of same ...

Hi guys,
 
It seems where samplers are concerned in Sonar X series one has - Dimension Pro, Cyclone, Dropzone.
 
When one is looking around for tutes and info on these it seems pretty sparce. A sampler that keeps scoring high marks elsewhere is the ABLETON SAMPLER. Are any of the samplers in Sonar anywhere near either Ableton Sampler Or NI Kontakt? Is Dimension Pro a good sampler for sound design?
 
Are Cyclone or Dropzone any use?
 
The topic of usage of Samplers seems to be thin on the ground within the Sonar Community? Maybe i am wrong?
 
 
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    dubdisciple
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    Re: Samplers in Sonar and usage of same ... 2013/11/13 16:56:49 (permalink)
    Sonar has nothing like Kontakt.  Nothing like Ableton either.  Dimension Pro is a rompler (a sample playing synth with decent sample editing abilities) but not what one would call a proper sampler.  It can import samples and map rex files across keyboard. Dropzone is like a lighter version of dimension pro but easier to import samples. Still not a proper sampler.  Cyclone is more of a sample manipulator/mangler that theoretically would be good for jungle breaks.
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    Re: Samplers in Sonar and usage of same ... 2013/11/13 17:06:30 (permalink)
    Thanks Dubdisciple,
     
    Its obviously something that Sonar needs so? A decent sampler.
     
    I have tried Dimension pro, Dropzone and Cyclone now. Was looking for a simple thing - to reverse an imported sample - not possible.
     
    Looks like for the moment the only way is external VSTs like Kontakt or Nuance or Sampletank??
     

     
     
     
     
     
     
     
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    Re: Samplers in Sonar and usage of same ... 2013/11/13 17:18:09 (permalink)
    If you are looking for a  free solution try TX16Wx
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    Re: Samplers in Sonar and usage of same ... 2013/11/13 17:37:28 (permalink)
    scook
    If you are looking for a  free solution try


     Thanks Scook,
     
    Thats a bit better, allows reverse loop. Unfortunately EFX are only in the full version :D
     
    But I will test this, good so far ..
     
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    Re: Samplers in Sonar and usage of same ... 2013/11/13 18:00:34 (permalink)
    Considering Sonar comes loaded with efx, that should not be that big of an obstacle. i have wanted to use that sampler but it always crashes on me :(
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    Re: Samplers in Sonar and usage of same ... 2013/11/13 19:01:36 (permalink)
    Here is another interesting FREE as in totally free sampler called SHORTCIRCUIT at www dot vemberaudio dot se
     
    I cannot add urls yet it seems
     
     
     
     
     
     
    post edited by aidanodr - 2013/11/13 19:04:18
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    Re: Samplers in Sonar and usage of same ... 2013/11/13 19:15:26 (permalink)
    shortcircuit is great.  only downside is it is only 32 bit. 
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    Re: Samplers in Sonar and usage of same ... 2013/11/14 12:40:40 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby dubdisciple 2013/11/14 14:09:51
    I have tried Dimension pro, Dropzone and Cyclone now. Was looking for a simple thing - to reverse an imported sample - not possible.

     
    Here's  one method.  For an imported sample, you'd have to create an .sfz (text) file first, with a <region> pointing to the sample file name.
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    Re: Samplers in Sonar and usage of same ... 2013/11/14 13:38:02 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby dubdisciple 2013/11/14 14:08:20
    Thanks b rock,
     
    I have been having success with BUT as Dubdisciple says it keeps crashing Sonar with mem violation errors etc.
     
    However - good news Dubdisciple and all - The new beta version sorts this. No crashes so far:
     
    www . tx16wx . com/downloads/prereleases
     
    ( cant do links yet, probably have to post more :D )
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    Re: Samplers in Sonar and usage of same ... 2013/11/14 14:09:05 (permalink)
    thanks a bunch.  This sampler would likely fit my needs perfectly if not for the crashes.
     
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    Re: Samplers in Sonar and usage of same ... 2013/11/14 14:11:52 (permalink)
    At the price for personal version its well worth it too.
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    Re: Samplers in Sonar and usage of same ... 2013/11/14 15:24:27 (permalink)
    will definitely purchase if i can ever get it to work right
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    Re: Samplers in Sonar and usage of same ... 2013/11/14 17:10:45 (permalink)
    Its working for me on Sonar x2 Producer at the moment - no crashes - all is fine.
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    Re: Samplers in Sonar and usage of same ... 2013/11/18 16:51:46 (permalink)
    the sampler with ableton, is an extra IRC and not included unless you pay extra.. same goes with Exs if they still make that for logic.
     
     
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    Re: Samplers in Sonar and usage of same ... 2013/11/18 17:00:35 (permalink)
    Been using TX16Wx sampler for the last few days now .. Especially the BETA. Working fine with Sonar X2 Producer - no problems.
     
    in fact, for my needs I find the FREE version more than adequate.
     
     
    post edited by aidanodr - 2013/11/18 17:01:51
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    Re: Samplers in Sonar and usage of same ... 2013/11/18 18:30:33 (permalink)
    Fog..I always assumed Ex was included with Logic since I have never seen an install without it.  Learn something new every day.
     
    aidanodr- this beta is much more stable than the previous releases.  I have created multi-output layered drum kits with no crashes .  it even handled some old soundfont drumkits I tossed on it for kicks.
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    Re: Samplers in Sonar and usage of same ... 2013/11/18 18:39:12 (permalink)
    I doublechecked and exs24 is included with logic
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    Re: Samplers in Sonar and usage of same ... 2013/11/20 16:47:58 (permalink)
    it used to be an exta, much like the sampler is / was with ableton.. well until apple bought out emagic..
     
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    Re: Samplers in Sonar and usage of same ... 2013/11/22 05:14:33 (permalink)
    I Still use my EMU E6400 ultra (as well as Kontakt 5)
     


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    Re: Samplers in Sonar and usage of same ... 2013/11/22 11:17:33 (permalink)
    It's sad that EMU is a shell of it's glory days.  Best filters of any sampler I ever used
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    Re: Samplers in Sonar and usage of same ... 2013/11/26 18:14:43 (permalink)
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    Hi guys,
     
    It seems where samplers are concerned in Sonar X series one has - Dimension Pro, Cyclone, Dropzone.
     
    When one is looking around for tutes and info on these it seems pretty sparce. A sampler that keeps scoring high marks elsewhere is the ABLETON SAMPLER. Are any of the samplers in Sonar anywhere near either Ableton Sampler Or NI Kontakt? Is Dimension Pro a good sampler for sound design?
     
    Are Cyclone or Dropzone any use?
     
    The topic of usage of Samplers seems to be thin on the ground within the Sonar Community? Maybe i am wrong?
     
     




     Elsewhere can not mean Earth.  When you have Kontakt, you don't even waste time with Live's sampler unless you need it for it's proprietary sounds.  The only decent sampler incorporated into a DAW was Logic.  I would think with the samplers out there making a great sampler in a DAW is a waste of resources.     
     
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    Re: Samplers in Sonar and usage of same ... 2013/12/01 16:43:07 (permalink)
    TX16Wx 2.3 is out of beta. Released today.
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    Re: Samplers in Sonar and usage of same ... 2013/12/01 16:56:55 (permalink)
    Fl studios integrated sampler is quite good
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    Re: Samplers in Sonar and usage of same ... 2013/12/01 22:43:08 (permalink)
    scook
    TX16Wx 2.3 is out of beta. Released today.




    Thanks scook.
     

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    Re: Samplers in Sonar and usage of same ... 2013/12/02 16:02:36 (permalink)
    I plumped for KOMPLETE 9. As I had absynth and Reaktor already they gave me a crossgrade in the Black Friday sale. So I got KOMPLETE 9 for amazing price - €167.
    This means i now get Kontakt as my sampler :D
     
    native-instruments.com/en/products/komplete/bundles/komplete-9/
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
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    Re: Samplers in Sonar and usage of same ... 2013/12/02 16:29:47 (permalink)
    well that solves that lol
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    Re: Samplers in Sonar and usage of same ... 2013/12/02 16:44:56 (permalink)
    dubdisciple
    well that solves that lol




    Sure does. Couldnt pass that offer by. Normal price to crossgrade about €500. Plus this is the boxed version shipped for that €167 price.

    I also ( As i have X3 now too ) upgraded the Z3TA Synth to v2 - What a synth that is.

    Again its on offer:
     
    store.cakewalk.com/b2ceuro/ProductInfo.aspx?productid=10-cwz32.00-20E
     
    Upgrade for Black Friday/Cyber monday princely sum of €24.50  // Full ver knocked down to €49.50. ( Half Price )

    Gets my recommend :D
     
     
     
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    Re: Samplers in Sonar and usage of same ... 2013/12/02 17:08:19 (permalink)
    i have z3ta2 already.  probably my most used sytnh.  Eventually i will jump on one of these NI deals.
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    Re: Samplers in Sonar and usage of same ... 2013/12/06 17:42:59 (permalink)
    And so my Black Friday knock down priced ( €167 crossgrade from Reaktor that I had previously ) KOMPLETE 9 arrived via UPS today.
     
    Wow, its some behemoth - 12 DVDs of installation. Takes a few hours to complete. Not for small harddrives ( I have 2 x 1 terabyte drives .. luckily :D )
     
    So Kontakt and a pile of other audio goodness, here I come :D
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