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Samplitude
Why isn't more people using samplitude? it's beautiful...
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Re: Samplitude
2018/02/02 22:30:49
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☄ Helpfulby jude77 2018/02/03 21:49:51
Samplitude is powerful, no doubt about it, but has its workflow shortcomings, like lack of plugins/instrument browser, dated routing, poorly designed take manager (take composer is great, though), awful audio quantize functionality (Melodyne to the rescue)... End of the list. This and frequent ASIO buffer drop-out should be fixed long ago, but Magix doesn't seem to care. I guess that's why people buy something else. Besides that, Samplitude Suite used to cost $999, which is not the most affordable solution for hobbyists. Also, lower grade DAWs like SMS and MMM were buggy, which turned potential buyers away.
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Re: Samplitude
2018/02/02 23:05:55
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Also having terrible entry level and free products doesn't help. Would you ever buy a PRS if the SEs were crappy?
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Re: Samplitude
2018/02/03 02:46:40
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Beautyfull is not the word ..... at all .... lol ...
Powerfull , yes ....exellent for. Post .... disrespectfull for create and production people lol
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Re: Samplitude
2018/02/03 10:04:37
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I do not really agree what is said here above.
In my opinion Samplitude is currently the best replacement for Sonar. I had always a version of SMS because I liked their synth Revolta with some really awesome and diverse sounds, IMHO much better than all synths of Cakewalk. And I also think that Samplitude's look is much more attractive than most of the other DAWs (but not so nice like Sonar's). And concerning their "terrible entry level" stuff I am convinced that if you are really creative you can take out a wonderful sound of any instrument or FX.
What I agree is that there is no plugin manager, but I solved this issue by creating my own folder-organized VST path for Samplitude (with subfolders EQ, Dynamics, ...). That is quite okay. Also the regular price had been really high in the past. But I purchased Samplitude Pro Suite in December with this incredible offer (150 EUR) just because I wanted SpectraLayers Pro. At that time I even did not know about the decline of Sonar. Later on I tested a couple of the most famous DAWs and in the end I came back to Samplitude. Finally the choice of a DAW is a matter of taste!
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Re: Samplitude
2018/02/03 11:11:34
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Had a look at it, didn't hate it, but didn't feel inclined to buy it either as it was like stepping back in time with the menu arrangements (lack of). The crossgrade deal did seem too good to be true, but ultimately I felt that at least for as long as Platinum works that I would most likely never use it. Spectralayers and such is all very clever, but not something I'm ever likely to need either.
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Re: Samplitude
2018/02/03 13:17:40
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It is a very powerful program. The object editing is an awesome feature that I like very much. The UI is OK, not great, but once you get comfortable it's workable. My main complaints are that it's not as efficient as SONAR with its CPU usage. Certain plug-ins will not distribute their load evenly across the cores and I have an i7. It is also buggy. Now some of this is due to 3rd party stuff not playing nice. In general most of the things that cause me grief in Sonar also cause me grief in Samplitude. Things like Drumagog, NI Battery with certain types of rex files etc. But some of Samplitude's internal stuff causes issues like its elastic audio. I've had more crashes with that than anything. All this being said it was relatively quick and easy to get up and running. Overall I will stick with SONAR, but I am gradually migrating over to Samplitude and Reaper. I have a 5 song project that my band will be starting later this month and I may just use one of those 2 programs vs. Sonar since I've gotten comfortable with both.
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Re: Samplitude
2018/02/03 13:49:04
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I like the program overall, and I really liked the bundle with Spectral Layers. A few things that change my work include being unable to drag and drop audio/midi files. And being unable to put sends on the master bus. There are also some limitations on use of control surfaces. I love the options of the Birdskins and the ARA integration. Never clicked with Studio One. But I do keep coming back here to Cakewalk for the forum activity which I don’t feel Samplitutude nor Cubase have.
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Re: Samplitude
2018/02/03 14:38:50
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I think is a great DAW! I wish they had a plugin manager, but overall I'm really enjoying working with it.
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Re: Samplitude
2018/02/03 15:10:43
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You can edit the plug-in .ini file and arrange things in categories. I think there's a youtube video somewhere. This was a feature prior to the X series that they took out but will hopefully put back in with some future update.
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Re: Samplitude
2018/02/03 17:06:32
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Although I'm using Mixcraft for easy stuff, I've been experimenting with Samplitude. These two comments about the plug-in manager are very helpful: - Markled - What I agree is that there is no plugin manager, but I solved this issue by creating my own folder-organized VST path for Samplitude (with subfolders EQ, Dynamics, ...).
- Emwhy - You can edit the plug-in .ini file and arrange things in categories. I think there's a youtube video somewhere. This was a feature prior to the X series that they took out but will hopefully put back in with some future update.
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Re: Samplitude
2018/02/03 18:27:47
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Re: Samplitude
2018/02/03 19:02:37
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I couldn't get this to work, even after watching the video about 10 times. I think this was developed for Pro X2, and I'm on Pro X3, maybe there's some subtle differences.
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Re: Samplitude
2018/02/03 19:21:11
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It is another take on editing the ini file, nothing more. It does make a safety copy of the original ini in the folder where the ini resides.
The current plug-in layout is similar to the old SONAR default - all plug-ins layout. IOW, VST3 are sorted by category, VST2 are sorted by the directory layout on the hard drive and DX plug-ins are sorted by vendor. The exceptions are the VST3 plug-ins that all into the fixed categories at the top of the plug-in list for Samplitude FXs. In this case, the plug-ins are appended to the appropriate sub-menu.
That said, a more sophisticated layout manager would be nice. I started to look at writing one but have decided to wait and see what MAGIX has in mind. They continue to tinker with the layout with every update.
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Re: Samplitude
2018/02/03 19:54:30
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I think Sonar has the best plugin manager. I sorted every plugin and instrument the way it seems most logical to me and now miss this functionality in all other DAWs I've tried. Also, nice and clean routing in Sonar is top-notch. No other DAW has such an elegant implementation of track routing, although most do have powerful routing options. An lastly, comping in Sonar is a breeze. E.g., in Reaper it's easy to mess the perfect comp by accidentally clicking on a wrong chunk. In Samplitude takes are easy to use, but they do not provide any visual information unless chosen. Take Composer tool seems nice, I haven't used it much yet.
And one of the most useful features in Sonar - auto track zoom - is a must have for every DAW. But unfortunately, it's not found anywhere.
Had all these features been implemented in Samplitude or Reaper, i'd jump ship immediately. As of now, I'll stick with Sonar as long as possible.
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Re: Samplitude
2018/02/04 03:42:48
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How far behind is Samplitude? I did the $149 buy and is getting up to speed with it. But, whooah! Should I slow down or look elsewhere. The MIDI Manufacturers Association (MMA) has formally ratified the MIDI Polyphonic Expression (MPE) enhancement to the MIDI Specification. MPE enables electronic instruments such as synthesizers to provide a level of expressiveness typically possible only with acoustic instruments. The following products support one or more of the features of MPE: Digital audio workstations (DAWs) - Bitwig 8-Track & Studio
- GarageBand macOS
- Logic Pro X
- Reaper
- Steinberg Cubase
- Tracktion Waveform
Software synthesizers - Admiral Quality Poly-Ana
- Cycling '74 Max
- Equator / Equator Player
- FXpansion Strobe2
- KV331 Audio SynthMaster
- Madrona Labs Aalto
- Madrona Labs Kaivo
- MainStage
- Native Instruments Reaktor
- Softube Modular
- Spitfire BT Phobos
- Stagecraft Addiction and Infinity
- Symbolic Sound Kyma
- UVI Falcon
Mobile apps - NOISE
- Seaboard 5D
- GeoShred
- GarageBand iOS
- Moog Model 15
- AniMoog
Hardware synthesizers - Artiphon INSTRUMENT 1
- Audiothingies MicroMonsta
- Axoloti
- Deckard's Dream
- Endorphin.es Shuttle Control
- Expert Sleepers FH-1
- Futuresonus Parva
- Haken Continuum
- MOD Duo
- Modal Electronics 001 / 002 / 002R
- Modor NF-1 / NF-1m
- Polyend Poly
- Snyderphonics MantaMate
These DAWs and synthesizer plugins can be used with certain MPE Controllers by following the setup guides provided by the MPE Controller maker: - Ableton Live
- Audio Modeling SWAM Engine
- Digital Performer
- FL Studio
- iZotope Iris 2
- Native Instruments Kontakt
- Pro Tools
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- Studio One
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Re: Samplitude
2018/02/04 18:36:05
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I think we have to wait and see what Samplitude X4 brings to the table before casting judgement.
That is why I brought several DAW's for the crossgrade price. I'll settle in on one or two.
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Re: Samplitude
2018/02/04 19:53:28
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Yes, I also bought Samplitude, and Mixcraft, at the incredibly good crossgrade prices.
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Re: Samplitude
2018/02/04 21:10:23
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Wondering what the pricing would be like for ProX 4. Rumor has it Magix may go with a subscription based plan but I have no way of knowing if that's for sure.
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Re: Samplitude
2018/02/04 22:06:05
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emwhy
Wondering what the pricing would be like for ProX 4. Rumor has it Magix may go with a subscription based plan but I have no way of knowing if that's for sure.
That was the other thing that made me wary of it tbh. Things that seem to good to be true usually are and I suspect that the cost of bringing/keeping up to date will be the payback.
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Re: Samplitude
2018/02/04 22:37:34
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It's a very powerful program that suffers from many of the same shortcomings as sonar, buggest of those is a workflow totally not in line with the modern pop styles youth are attempting to create. Of course it's possible to make make the latest Arianah Grande or Migos song in samplitude, but just not likely.
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Re: Samplitude
2018/02/13 20:29:01
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I wish I can give an opinion about Samplitude. Looks nice but I can't figure out why I constantly get clicks when recording a test track. I've tried many record settings. There is no issue with my interface when I use SPAT or Studio One. I will see what Tech Support comes back with...
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Re: Samplitude
2018/02/13 21:05:11
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I just crashed Samplitude selecting undo twice.
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Re: Samplitude
2018/02/14 15:24:23
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I think I solved my recording click/dropout issue with Samplitude. I changed the driver from the Focusrite ASIO to the Magix 2016 driver.
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Re: Samplitude
2018/02/14 15:43:02
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☄ Helpfulby jmasno5 2018/02/14 16:09:36
My friend has an older Scarlett, 1st Gen and Focusrite hasn't provided any updated drivers since 2014. Samplitude gave him a lot of grief until he switched to the Magix drivers. This seems to be a common problem with Focusrite stuff. Glad you solved the issue.
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Re: Samplitude
2018/02/14 21:54:47
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emwhy
My friend has an older Scarlett, 1st Gen and Focusrite hasn't provided any updated drivers since 2014. Samplitude gave him a lot of grief until he switched to the Magix drivers. This seems to be a common problem with Focusrite stuff. Glad you solved the issue. Not sure if this is correct. The last Windows driver in my Focusrite account in 2016. It is version 2.1.4. For those on a Mac they have just updated the Mac driver. I am also not impressed with a program that requires you to ditch the actual Focusrite drivers that they provide and use another driver instead. How do you know you are getting the best performance from the Magix drivers. In fact no other DAW from what I can see makes you install a different driver. Studio One allows you to install the manufacturers driver which is the way it should be. For example if you are running the Clarett interface over thunderbolt you have to use their driver in order to get that great performance. Focusrite Control also provides all that signal routing and stuff. What happens to all that?
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Re: Samplitude
2018/02/14 22:44:12
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Jeff,
I see what you mean. However, the latest PC driver for my Scarlett is in fact 2014. I assume there is an issue with that particular driver and do not think Magix forces their driver on you. I'm actually glad their driver was an option. I also have Samplitude on a backup computer that is hooked up to an even older Presonus Firebox. (Remember that interface?) I am able to use the firebox drivers with no problem with Windows 10 and Samplitude. I bet if I had a 2nd gen Scarlett or a new Clarett there would be no issue. Since 2014 there has been a new OS and many Windows updates. I have faith that Samplitude is keeping up but I know my 4 year old Scarlett 18i20 is not.
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Re: Samplitude
2018/02/14 23:25:36
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It won't allow me to make the mixer full screen. Deal breaker. Mixbus has stupid tiny eq knobs that are so small you cant read em. Deal breaker.
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Re: Samplitude
2018/02/15 01:08:55
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Re: Samplitude
2018/02/15 01:40:41
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Not sure if this is correct. The last Windows driver in my Focusrite account in 2016. It is version 2.1.4. For those on a Mac they have just updated the Mac driver.
Is it first or second generation? There is a difference and some of the first gen stuff doesn't have any new driver updates.
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