Setting up your SB Audigy Live!

It depends what you want to do, or what your priorites for your system are mate.

I'm certainly no soundcard expert Kain, you'll need Doc or Robert or one of the other tech guys to weigh in here for specific advice.

However, there's no doubting the Audigy is a decent bit of gear for what it does best - playing back stuff; but I imagine everyone who replies will tell you that to record with, a dedicated card with purpose built drivers for recording will be better for .. er .. recording.

ORIGINAL: SteveStrummerUK


It depends what you want to do, or what your priorites for your system are mate.

I'm certainly no soundcard expert Kain, you'll need Doc or Robert or one of the other tech guys to weigh in here for specific advice.

However, there's no doubting the Audigy is a decent bit of gear for what it does best - playing back stuff; but I imagine everyone who replies will tell you that to record with, a dedicated card with purpose built drivers for recording will be better for .. er .. recording.

*stares in wide wonder*You are wise *kneels* please bestow upon me thine wisdom

ORIGINAL: SteveStrummerUK

ORIGINAL: KainThornn

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ORIGINAL: Doc_Hollingsworth

Kain,

I have to agree here. It would well be worth the investment to get an external sound card or if you have the money for it an internal PCI sound card. Either way you'll be ahead in the game. The Audigy card while a great sound card isn't really designed for recording music. Some suggestions (Strummy I expect me payment) Line 6 makes some great gear, and quite a few of us use their Toneport series for recording. I also use a Digitech GNX3000 and a Lexicon Lambda. But then again I am somewhat of a gear whore.

In the end I think you'll be a lot happier with the end result and the lack of problems and issues you are having with the Audigy.

I have the GNX2, it's just when I record the whole audio chops up and slows down :(

ORIGINAL: Doc_Hollingsworth

With the GNX?

Not because of the GnX, it's something internal, I dunno if it's the computer, the setup of CWGTP3, the memory. Total stumpage

I used plain old line in/out for the GnX. Processes? Ooooh...3 apps and..uh...52 processes... Nvidia 8600GT PCIE vid card...USB Logitech Marble Man Trackball...USB Logitech Game Stick thingy...USB printer...USB external drive...USB card reader...MME 32 drivers running...Western Digital 400Gb HDD@ 7200 Rpm...

ORIGINAL: Doc_Hollingsworth

Kain,

Way too many USB thingys. and way too many processes running. Can you PM me with a list of processes and let's get it to just the necessary stuff. For the USB stuff unplug as much as you can that you don't need while recording. Also how many GB of ram are you running?

That's where confusion sets in, it's pretty much the exact same set of processes and USB devices that my old system was using yet CWGTP3 ran fine. It's the same physical sound card too. 2gb DDRAM2

Maybe my CPU detests hard rock?

Interface?

ORIGINAL: Doc_Hollingsworth

Yes. One like this Line 6 Toneport GX

Now you're talking Doc.

It's hardware that comes with amp modeling software. My opinion it's better than Amplitube. But that's me own opinion.

Kain,

The Digitech GNX 2 is a multieffects processor with no capability to act as a Audio Interfacecard for your computer. In fact that capability wasn't introduced in to the GNX line till the GNX4 came out. Out of the family of GNX processors only the GNX4 and the GNX3000 have recording interface capability. This means that they have the ability to be connected by USB 2.0 to a computer and act as an ultra low latency audio recording and playback card. The RP family starting with the RP250 and then continuing with the RP 350, RP500 and RP1000 are also capable of acting as recording interfaces as is the GSP1101 rack mount processor.

Ok so what does this mean to you? The GNX2 is not a recording interface as it has no ability to act as an external audio card for your computer, no mater which way it is connected (I read the manual). If you look at getting a proper pro-sumer or professional interface you will experience less issues and more than likely will not see your audio setting change every time you open up a program that shares the interface. More precisely use the SB for everything except recording and get a different audio interface specifically for recording.

The quality of the audio will be better and the Line 6 modeler sounds a lot better than the GNX modeler when it comes to copying the tones of a Marshall or Mesa Boogie and most other amps in it's line up of models. I found the Digitech modelers wanting in that they lack bottom end and took a serious re-edit of amp settings using X-edit 2.0 to make them even sound right. I have a Marshall valve head to compare it against so I'm certain about the lack of accuracy with the digitech models in comparison to the Line 6 models. But that is simply my opinion about the modelers.

However you will find about 95% of the users here will recomend using a purpose built recording interface for recording your music.

Kain, the 'line in' you mention is just the input on your current soundcard.

If, for example, you were to get a TonePort, even if only to record with, this would take on the duties of your soundcard. You'd use its equivalent of a 'line in' input to record through, and yes - you could run your Digitech straight into GT3 through the TonePort hardware.

As I said elsewhere, the big difference between most 'normal' soundcards and those designed specifically to input audio is how efficient the drivers are.

Think about it, if you're using your PC to play a CD or some mp3 files already on your system, it doesn't really matter if the signal takes maybe a second (exaggerated example) from being read by the CD/DVD ROM drive or from the hard drive until it reaches your monitor speakers.

The time taken for the signal to complete this journey may well be the least important factor taken into consideration when the drivers are being written for the soundcard.

However, imagine using the same piece of hardware and it's associated drivers to input audio while you're recording. Pluck a guitar string and it takes a second before that piece of audio is received and recorded by GT3. You are soon going to run into timing issues on two counts - firstly, the delay will make it difficult to play as you'll be hearing the guitar sound after you play it (unless you have an extra 'loop' somewhere to listen to your sound before it enters your soundcard); secondly, you'll encounter problems keeping in time with a click track, or tracks you've already recorded.

These types of latency problems will be further augmented if you record with the 'Input Monitor' feature engaged (so you can here any effects applied in GT3 in real time).

These are obviously extreme examples Kain but they should illustrate the difference between soundcards/drivers used for playback and those designed specifically to input audio to your PC - the exact process used to record a live performance in GT3.

You can choose to swap back to the SB card for playback or leave your TonePort (or other dedicated soundcard) set to handle all your audio - it's just a couple of mouse clicks here and there.

Hope that explains it for you

Steve

What audio driver are you using GTP3? WDM/MME or ASIO? you might try switching driver types to MME (under audio options in GTP3). Also check you latency settings in the Audio Options in GTP3. If it is operating fine in another DAW package then the problem very might well be your settings within the program itself.

Your Audio bit depth should be 16 bit, the sampling rate set to 44100. Higher resolution is not recommended unless you are recording for DVD audio. decrease your buffers in queue to 2 this should allow you to reduce the latency to 10 ms using MME drivers.

ORIGINAL: KainThornn

Problem- I'm recording guitar on a previously recorded drum track and when I play it back, the guitars are at a faster tempo than I recorded them. No adjustments to tempo were made .

Problem- I'm recording and suddenly the whole thing slows and becomes choppy

Problem- I'm recording and regardless of what I set the buffers to, it drops.

Here's the meat of it all

Intel Q6600 Quad Core @2.4Ghz
2 Gb DDRAM
Windows XP Pro SP3
Creative SB Audigy Live! 24 bit

The drum tracks were made years ago on Guitar Tracks 2. Do I need to give further info on the operating environment?

Ok I did some checking into your past posts since everything is scattered around. I noted you are running XP with SP3. SP3 has been known to create all kinds of issues and problems depending on the system. All you need to do is a search in this forum on SP3 and you will find a large percentage of users that have had issues and problems. Some more questions for you.

When did the problems start? Was GTP3 running before without issues? Have you optimized the system using one of the online line guides for DAW optimization? Can you provide me that list of processes that is running and what application you have running other than GTP3 when you record?