AlanRichards
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Re: Should I Put Together a Second Book of SONAR Tips with the Remaining Tips?
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Re: Should I Put Together a Second Book of SONAR Tips with the Remaining Tips?
2017/12/06 04:41:36
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Id say yes, and it should include tips for transferring files over to another DAW. (I hope thats allowed to say, apparently there's a lot strict posting rules being enforced as of late, perhaps to familiarize those moving to CuBase forum, LOL.) Cheers
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Re: Should I Put Together a Second Book of SONAR Tips with the Remaining Tips?
2017/12/06 05:20:36
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Update the existing book, call it Second Edition.
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Re: Should I Put Together a Second Book of SONAR Tips with the Remaining Tips?
2017/12/06 08:25:52
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If its about migrating projects to another DAW yes!
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Re: Should I Put Together a Second Book of SONAR Tips with the Remaining Tips?
2017/12/06 09:23:41
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Re: Should I Put Together a Second Book of SONAR Tips with the Remaining Tips?
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Re: Should I Put Together a Second Book of SONAR Tips with the Remaining Tips?
2017/12/06 09:57:19
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Re: Should I Put Together a Second Book of SONAR Tips with the Remaining Tips?
2017/12/06 14:52:56
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☄ Helpfulby TerraSin 2017/12/06 19:58:54
or maybe just not delete all the posts in the tips thread like last time!
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Re: Should I Put Together a Second Book of SONAR Tips with the Remaining Tips?
2017/12/06 17:19:54
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Yes! I plan to pick the first one up very soon. There is still I ton I dont know about sonar
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2017/12/06 17:45:50
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Yes, yes, yes - please....
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Re: Should I Put Together a Second Book of SONAR Tips with the Remaining Tips?
2017/12/06 20:43:31
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☄ Helpfulby jyoung60 2017/12/06 20:56:20
ampfixer Make money on the way up and make money on the way down. Sonar's been good to you.
That's an incredible display of ignorance. - Here's what I made from "The Big Book of SONAR Tips": $0.00
- Here's what I made from "Equalization De-Mystified": $0.00
- Here's what I made from the content I contributed to the updates: $0.00.
- Here's what I made from answering questions and providing support on the forums: $0.00.
- Here's what I made from doing all the editing and acidization of the Hardgroove Bass loop library and Bart Walsh's Rock Anthems loop library (as well as the loops I contributed): $0.00.
- Here's what I made from writing Friday's Tip of the Week: $0.00
- Here's what I made from putting together the eZine: Part of it was covered by my Gibson salary, but most of it was done on weekends and evenings. Do you have any idea how much time and effort it takes to put together a monthly 60-page eZine? Try it sometime, you'll find out.
So why did I do all this? Because I loved the program and wanted Cakewalk to succeed. And I also felt that with a few notable exceptions, this is an exceptionally good and helpful community. The appreciation it gave for what I did was worth more than money. I'm asking if people want me to put together second book. I don't see anyone holding a gun to your head. I know it won't sell a lot; I'll probably end up making less per hour than if I spent the same amount of time being a greeter at Wal-Mart. So why am I offering to do this book? I don't think you (or Paulo for that matter, whose big contribution to this thread was to make your wildly inaccurate post as "helpful), could understand the answer. Note: I did make money on the SONAR books I wrote before joining Gibson, and I do make money writing the Sound on Sound SONAR column (on my own time). I will happily give up trying to make a living if you pay my bills. PM me for direct deposit information. Thank you.
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Re: Should I Put Together a Second Book of SONAR Tips with the Remaining Tips?
2017/12/06 20:44:40
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We used to have access to all the tips for free, including the comments and observations. Somebody deleted them all. I wonder why?
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Re: Should I Put Together a Second Book of SONAR Tips with the Remaining Tips?
2017/12/06 21:02:30
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☄ Helpfulby ampfixer 2017/12/07 00:19:18
ampfixer We used to have access to all the tips for free, including the comments and observations. Somebody deleted them all. I wonder why? Aha! Well that explains a lot, you can't read. I've already explained why multiple times. Oh and by the way, if you could read, you would know that I incorporated relevant comments from the community, with full attribution (and the user names even highlighted in a different color to draw attention to them and give credit where credit is due), in the body text of the tips to which those comments related. I also included individual tips contributed by the community to the previous thread at the beginning of the new thread. They were not deleted either. (However, I did delete all the "Great tip, thanks!," "Thanks for presenting these tips, very helpful," "That tip of yours saved my mix," etc. because I felt they were a distraction from the information. So sue me.) Obviously I didn't delete the thread so I could make money from the book. Doh. It's unfortunate you didn't figure that out before writing your previous post, because all you managed to do was make your claim about all the money I made from Cakewalk look even more ridiculous. By the way I had nothing to do with the removal of the current Friday's Tip of the Week thread. Hey Paulo - can you do me a favor, and mark his previous post as "helpful" too? I want people to see my responses.
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Re: Should I Put Together a Second Book of SONAR Tips with the Remaining Tips?
2017/12/06 21:12:08
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☄ Helpfulby ampfixer 2017/12/07 00:19:22
As for the rest of you...I worked on the new book for 16 hours straight yesterday. I contacted Reverb.com and they said they'd be happy to list it once I finish it. NOTE: They got the price wrong on "The Big Book of SONAR Tips" and listed it for $9.95 instead of $14.95 because $9.95 was also the price of the "Equalization De-Mystified" book. They are going to adjust it at some point, but they are obligated to fulfill orders at the current price until they change it.
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Re: Should I Put Together a Second Book of SONAR Tips with the Remaining Tips?
2017/12/06 21:12:20
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☄ Helpfulby rspagnuolo 2017/12/07 04:06:40
Craig - I've been a fan of yours since I was a teen reading Guitar Player, to 1998-99 seeing you in Leo's Pro Audio at a Ramsa DA7 ADAT seminar to watching you cheer Sonar. I can't imagine your disappointment now that it's discontinued. You're such an outstanding music journalist and teacher, I just know whatever you do next will be GREAT! I'm a longtime Pro Tools user but lately I've really gotten to know and like PreSonus Studio One Pro. If I were you, I'd call up Rick Naqvi and discuss possibilities. Also I'd love to hear you as a guest or featured member with Russ Hughes on the Pro Tools Expert podcast. YouTube video tutorials and live broadcasts are where it's at these days and if you made them a regular thing, I'd definitely be watching. Be well and if you're ever in Portland, Oregon, I'd consider it a great honor to buy you a beer and shake your hand! Best regards, Justin Arey Site Admin www.elevenrackpresets.com
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Re: Should I Put Together a Second Book of SONAR Tips with the Remaining Tips?
2017/12/06 21:15:03
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Anderton By the way I had nothing to do with the removal of the current Friday's Tip of the Week thread.
The thread was not removed, the sticky flag was turned off. My guess is Noel wanted the sticky area for official announcements only.
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2017/12/07 00:32:06
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☄ Helpfulby paulo 2017/12/07 20:46:36
You know Craig, I could have have been wrong, but after your tearful tirade and name calling, I'm not feeling so bad. I'm sure that whatever charitable organization receiving the proceeds from the books you listed is extremely grateful. You should realise that when you do something from the heart, you're not supposed to run around and tell people how much you've given for nothing. By rights, Gibson owns everything that is posted on the their forum, including this thread. I won't get involved in a lengthy flame war about this. You said your piece, I said mine. I hope book #2 is as successful as #1.
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Re: Should I Put Together a Second Book of SONAR Tips with the Remaining Tips?
2017/12/07 00:59:15
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☄ Helpfulby rspagnuolo 2017/12/07 04:07:03
ampfixer You know Craig, I could have have been wrong, but after your tearful tirade and name calling, I'm not feeling so bad. I'm sure that whatever charitable organization receiving the proceeds from the books you listed is extremely grateful. You should realise that when you do something from the heart, you're not supposed to run around and tell people how much you've given for nothing. By rights, Gibson owns everything that is posted on the their forum, including this thread. I won't get involved in a lengthy flame war about this. You said your piece, I said mine. I hope book #2 is as successful as #1.
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Re: Should I Put Together a Second Book of SONAR Tips with the Remaining Tips?
2017/12/07 20:47:44
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Anderton Hey Paulo - can you do me a favor, and mark his previous post as "helpful" too? I want people to see my responses.
Sure, I can do that...........no problem. That'll be $9.95. Er, no wait...... I meant $14.95.
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Re: Should I Put Together a Second Book of SONAR Tips with the Remaining Tips?
2017/12/08 04:00:50
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☄ Helpfulby Offlabeluse 2017/12/08 13:31:33
ampfixer You know Craig, I could have have been wrong, but after your tearful tirade and name calling, I'm not feeling so bad. I'm sure that whatever charitable organization receiving the proceeds from the books you listed is extremely grateful. Well without getting into details they're not charitable organizations, they're medical institutions dealing with two immediate family members who have long-term illnesses. Being unemployed is not helping this situation. You should realise that when you do something from the heart, you're not supposed to run around and tell people how much you've given for nothing. Normally I wouldn't have said anything, but what you implied was also said in the Reddit discussion on Cakewalk closing down, where someone stated how all the content and books I did was just me "lining my pockets." I was willing to let that go but you know how the internet is..."Well these guys said it, and John said it, so it must be true." I'm sensitive about this; I wanted to set the record straight to protect my reputation because no one other than a few Cakewalk people knew that I wasn't making anything from these products, so no one else was going to correct you. I do feel I came down too hard on you, because you were also paying the dues for the other people who had made the same kind of statements and I was sick of it. All I was trying to do was create alternate income streams to save Cakewalk. If anyone wants to get on my case for anything and be 100% accurate, you can say it was stupid of me to think that doing these kind of things could save Cakewalk. Gibson owns everything that is posted on the their forum, including this thread. Yes, but I had a "cut out" agreement when I signed on (the same as the other companies for whom I've done writing) that I can use what I write in derivative works but they can also use what I write in any derivative works they want to do. I own the rights on this basis to everything I've written since 1975. However, to be safe, that is why I did not include all the comments from other community people, and when I did, I changed them sufficiently to be an original work. I won't get involved in a lengthy flame war about this. You said your piece, I said mine. I hope book #2 is as successful as #1. I appreciate that, John, and I don't want to get into a flame war either. I know that book #2 will be nowhere near as successful as book #1, because a lot of people will just move on from SONAR, and the set of tips was already made available and according to scook, you can still find the unedited versions. I am adding value by including additional material, including tips on project transfers. But, I dunno...I'm really sad about losing Cakewalk. The second book will be closing the door. I kind of have to do it for my own closure.
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Re: Should I Put Together a Second Book of SONAR Tips with the Remaining Tips?
2017/12/08 05:06:37
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Actually Craig - I hope Steinberg hires you, pays you a lot of money and hires some of the Cakewalk engineers as well with good pay. Then I hope I can understand Cubase better. Having said that, I support all your publications and I have very old articles by you stored away.
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christian.landstrom
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Re: Should I Put Together a Second Book of SONAR Tips with the Remaining Tips?
2017/12/08 06:38:55
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Sure, I'll gladly give you some of my money 😊
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Re: Should I Put Together a Second Book of SONAR Tips with the Remaining Tips?
2017/12/08 08:00:09
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Yes, Craig. You should do it. I loved the first one, but the lack of "go-to" indexing in a PDF makes an annoying format even more annoying. I'd purchase the first one in a printed edition at double the price in a heartbeat, because: (1) I'm old and not having to jockey windows is faster for me, (2) highlighting with a marker in a printed book is a whole lot easier than highlighting a PDF document, (3) printing the whole book is a PITA, and (4) having the text at my (literal) fingertips just seems to be an easier way to work with instructional texts.
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Re: Should I Put Together a Second Book of SONAR Tips with the Remaining Tips?
2017/12/08 11:01:26
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If you do then i think you should offer it for free. thats just my opinion though.
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Re: Should I Put Together a Second Book of SONAR Tips with the Remaining Tips?
2017/12/08 12:24:20
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mosspathe lack of "go-to" indexing in a PDF
what do you mean by this? pdf has multiple indexing options available, maybe they just weren't used (it's up to the author, obv)
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Re: Should I Put Together a Second Book of SONAR Tips with the Remaining Tips?
2017/12/08 15:47:09
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ljb500 If you do then i think you should offer it for free. thats just my opinion though.
I am curious how often you work for free. Personally I like to be paid for work. All the derogatory comments about charging a fair sum (as evidenced by the people who are clearly ready to actually BUY the product in question, not by those who are just snarking and are obviously not intending to) are strange. As (aspiring?) musicians who are used to seeing the value of our product eroding away to the point where it is difficult to even give it away, I would have expected this group to be more understanding. Strange world. People think nothing about spending $10 for a cup of coffee but god forbid they pay for an e-book comprised of someone's hard-won knowledge, and the effort expended to compile it and put it out.
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Re: Should I Put Together a Second Book of SONAR Tips with the Remaining Tips?
2017/12/08 16:04:49
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This thread seemed to get derailed a bit by some of the comments above.. Lets bring it back on track. I bought the first "The Big Book of SONAR Tips" a while back and recently bought "Equalization De-Mystified" through reverb.com, so I will certainly buy a second tips book. I have no intention of giving up on Sonar. I use the program as a hobbyist rather than professionally, so it does everything I need it to do and a whole lot I either don't know about or have no idea how to do, so the more books on Sonar the merrier! Cheers, Steve
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Re: Should I Put Together a Second Book of SONAR Tips with the Remaining Tips?
2017/12/08 18:27:46
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☄ Helpfulby sharke 2017/12/09 06:24:27
Look folks, Craig and I have had an offline discussion and I was off-base due to some skewed assumptions. I did not intend to put anyone off of buying his book. Things have been tense since Gibson took a dump on us and I let that creep into my post. I forgot that Craig wasn't mr. Gibson, just another victim.
Regards, John I want to make it clear that I am an Eedjit. I have no direct, or indirect, knowledge of business, the music industry, forum threads or the meaning of life. I know about amps. WIN 10 Pro X64, I7-3770k 16 gigs, ASUS Z77 pro, AMD 7950 3 gig, Steinberg UR44, A-Pro 500, Sonar Platinum, KRK Rokit 6
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Re: Should I Put Together a Second Book of SONAR Tips with the Remaining Tips?
2017/12/08 18:55:15
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Craig, I believe, unless you owe it to yourself, you certainly don't have to do it. But it would be sweet if you could put together another book of tips for the ever wonderful and now legitimately legendary program for those of us who still love and use it.
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