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Re: Should I Stay or Should I Go Now? 2017/04/19 16:15:45 (permalink)
+1 to the issue being personal choice. No different than asking humbucker vs single coil, upright vs baby grand, etc. People can explain their preferences, but you have to experience for yourself.

No reason you cannot use both. A good test for yourself would be to do something end to end in S1... Could simply recreate something done before in SONAR and evaluate the new workflow. You may get an epiphany one way or the other to your own question.

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Re: Should I Stay or Should I Go Now? 2017/04/19 16:46:06 (permalink)
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I don't know one guitarist who switched from, say, a Fender to a Gibson. They play both.


Although Gary Moore was a famous Gibson Les Paul player, he would often play strats in his early days. Ritchie Blackmore started with Gibson ES than switched to the Fender Stratocaster. Jimi Page Replaced tele with a LP.  So it's not uncommon to finally settle with a particular "weapon of choice". I still don't have a Gibson guitar in my arsenal, although I own a very rare Epiphone FlameKat.
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Re: Should I Stay or Should I Go Now? 2017/04/19 17:23:04 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby BobF 2017/04/19 20:29:30
Has he gone yet (the OP)?
 
Can we start talking about him now?
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Re: Should I Stay or Should I Go Now? 2017/04/19 17:44:58 (permalink)
You're already talking about him.

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Re: Should I Stay or Should I Go Now? 2017/04/19 18:45:27 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby BobF 2017/04/19 20:30:01
Any reason not to lock this thread? We've established beyond a shadow of a doubt that more than one DAW exists in the world.

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Re: Should I Stay or Should I Go Now? 2017/04/19 20:20:50 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby bapu 2017/04/19 20:33:47
Meh. I say leave it open. I think it has value and no one is spazzing out.
 
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Re: Should I Stay or Should I Go Now? 2017/04/19 20:59:21 (permalink)
Dueling "helpfuls." 
 
People should use whatever software they like best, and there's no law against using more than one program. SONAR users have already chimed in that stability problems typically have more to do with the environment under which SONAR is run than SONAR itself.
 
What more is there to say on the subject that hasn't been said? 

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Re: Should I Stay or Should I Go Now? 2017/04/19 21:30:30 (permalink)
It's just interesting to hear what people do in regards to multiple DAWs within their workflows and how SONAR fits into that.
 
Meh. I thought it was interesting.
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Re: Should I Stay or Should I Go Now? 2017/04/19 21:37:57 (permalink)
To the OP - Never trust a DEMO! All the ones I've ever tried behaved differently from the full version.
 
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Any reason not to lock this thread? We've established beyond a shadow of a doubt that more than one DAW exists in the world.

 
I dunno. I'm still in the shadows for this one. Sure I've "heard" of others, but hearsay never proved anything. People believe anything they hear if they like the sound of it. I need convincing!
 
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Re: Should I Stay or Should I Go Now? 2017/04/19 21:57:25 (permalink)
It depends on who is driving and what sort of things you are doing. To me sometimes Sonar feels like a clunky old truck and Studio One is the sports car.  For me personally I don't need multiple DAW's either. You can really do everything on just one and you only have to remember one set of keyboard commands and workflow. The moment I start using a different DAW everything slows down.
 
The problem is too that many don't know how to do most things on the other DAW so they think they cannot be done. e.g. opening multiple projects in Studio One. You can, and not only that have scratchpads for all of them! Having said that what I really mean is for me a lot of DAW's are very similar so you are not really achieving much by using two of them. I do use a second DAW and that is Mixbus but the reason for that is, it is nothing like Studio One. Very different. Two very different DAW's can work. And compliment rather well.
 
The AR16 mixer will probably lock into Studio One better as well. The Presonus hardware and software is quite integrated.
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Re: Should I Stay or Should I Go Now? 2017/04/19 23:14:29 (permalink)
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I don't know one guitarist who switched from, say, a Gibson to a Fender. They play both.




I second this line of thought.   I like variety.  I choose to use Sonar which is about 90% of the time, for what its good at. I choose to use S1 for what its good at.  And I am thankful to live at a time and in a place where we have Gibson and Fenders and....       

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Re: Should I Stay or Should I Go Now? 2017/04/20 01:04:03 (permalink)
Jeff Evans 
The AR16 mixer will probably lock into Studio One better as well. The Presonus hardware and software is quite integrated.



therein lies the answer to the OP's question.

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Re: Should I Stay or Should I Go Now? 2017/04/20 06:04:30 (permalink)
Anderton
I don't know one guitarist who switched from, say, a Gibson to a Fender. They play both.


Ritchie Blackmore, the original grumpy old man, changed from an ES 335 to a Strat in the late 60's / early 70's because (if my memory serves me well) the Strat "was more difficult to play" 😜😜😜

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Re: Should I Stay or Should I Go Now? 2017/04/20 16:16:21 (permalink)
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Here's the thing I don't get. Why does it have to always be "switch to" or "dump" or any other such thing. It's not like Splat will suddenly be rendered inoperable because you installed another DAW on your system.
 
I currently use two DAWs regularly. SPlat and Reaper. I mostly stay in SPlat for creative process stuff (writing, tracking, mixing) and for more hardcore engineering tasks that SONAR isn't as good at (intensive wave manipulation, intricate tempo mapping and I'd likely use it if I were to track a full live band due to it's low resource footprint).
 
This method serves me VERY well and in fact made me much happier with Sonar. The only thing that made me REALLY cranky in the past was when I needed to perform a specific (and often times extremely laborious) task and the Sonar projects would slowly become more unstable (because I was pushing it too hard in a direction the program did not want to go). Now when that seems likely to happen for a specific phase of my projects I do the work in Reaper then drag the files back into Sonar when it's done.
 
Also, if I had the money I'd definitely try to acquire other DAWs so I could have access to features/workflows specific to those programs (as well as for curiosity's sake and compatibility with other studios if they request it).
 
So my answer is...
 
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Boom, there it is.

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Re: Should I Stay or Should I Go Now? 2017/04/20 19:32:54 (permalink)
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I don't know one guitarist who switched from, say, a Gibson to a Fender. They play both.


Ritchie Blackmore, the original grumpy old man, changed from an ES 335 to a Strat in the late 60's / early 70's because (if my memory serves me well) the Strat "was more difficult to play" 😜😜😜

Ok, sorry, i'll get me hat 'n' coat and be on me way ........

Jerry



Not to mention Eric Clapton and Jeff Beck. But never mind, the point was a good one.

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Re: Should I Stay or Should I Go Now? 2017/04/20 19:52:54 (permalink)
Hola, llevo con sonar desde sonar 4 producer, sin duda he visto y sufrido problemas, pero cada vez menos, siento que estes pasanso por estos problemas, creo que si te sientes mejor eres muy libre, de hacer lo que quieras, a mi me va bien como voy, todos los daw tienen sus pros y contras, suerte

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Re: Should I Stay or Should I Go Now? 2017/04/21 17:14:24 (permalink)
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I don't know one guitarist who switched from, say, a Gibson to a Fender. They play both.


Fender, Gibson, Rickenbacker, Larrivee, Martin.....

Not to mention 4 different Amp Sims and 3 different drum programs.

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Re: Should I Stay or Should I Go Now? 2017/04/22 14:19:04 (permalink)
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I don't know one guitarist who switched from, say, a Gibson to a Fender. They play both.

 
This.
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Re: Should I Stay or Should I Go Now? 2017/04/22 15:52:28 (permalink)
Anderton
I don't know one guitarist who switched from, say, a Gibson to a Fender. They play both.


That would be Clapton then, maybe Jeff Beck too.
I have some live concerts from John Mayall anniversay, Montrieux Jazz festival, even Cream reunion - all Fender.
Seems to me Clapton has some fallout against Gibson almost - he only praises Fender nowadays.
How he even had a small Fender amp, and some pedals to do Cream reunion - must be something he has against Gibson. That sound on reunion was not even remotely close to Marshall and a humbucker Gibson he used back then - I was severely disappointed at that.
 
I have some concerts with Beck too, Japan and Ronnie Scotts, and never Gibson. I saw still photos of one evening with a ES175 or something at Ronnie Scotts, but those performances were not on DVD.
 
So they both seem endorsed by Fender and not allowed to be publicly with anything else.
 
I mean Knopfler do both in concerts. Mike Campbell do both as well.
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Re: Should I Stay or Should I Go Now? 2017/04/22 17:51:46 (permalink)
Pete Townsend dropped Gibson (and Sound City/HiWatt) for all Fender gear (amps as well). At least he seemed to have gone Fender loco when I saw them at the ACC the tour Entwhistle died. I think that was in large part an endorsement thing but yeah... pretty epic purge.
 
Maybe that's no longer the case but it was certainly odd seeing the cherry SG loaded with P-90's and the HiWatt stacks completely replaced with Strats, Teles and what appeared to be a pile of Fender combos.
 
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Re: Should I Stay or Should I Go Now? 2017/04/22 18:41:19 (permalink)
Moving a song from Gibson to Fender is easier than moving it from S1 to Sonar.
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