Should we expect X3e to fix remaining bugs? If so, when?

They have already indicated an X3e was going to be released at some point - there was no date mentioned for when that was going to be, but so far so good.
 
They have done a fabulous job thus far with X3.
 
Bob Bone
 

neirbod
X3d fixed many bugs and it seems most folks are happy with it.  That being said, there are quite a few bugs that remain, some of which are quite significant.  Alex has done a great job keeping track of these here:
 
http://forum.cakewalk.com/Outstanding-Issues-as-of-X3D-UNOFFICIAL-and-general-comments-m2952585.aspx
 
Can anyone from Cakewalk tell us if X3e is in the works to address these remaining issues?  If so, any time table for release?
 
Thanks
 
David

I have no inside information and this is a peer-to-peer forum and so I'd imagine that "someone from Cakewalk" would not address that thread on the specifics.
 
As you are probably aware, Cakewalk is not the size of Microsoft or Google and so I can only imagine that they have to pick and choose what they can and will work on. Especially if there is a "workaround" for a particular issue.
 
My experience is that the Bakers are being a bit more attentive to users needs in X3. That is not a slam in any way, just an observation.
 
I say, sit back and enjoy the ride.
 
And remember that if anything in that thread is affecting your workflow in particular, be sure to submit a problem report. It's better to duplicate a problem report than it is to assume someone else has already submitted it (unless they have cited a problem report number).

Some kind of approximation of when wouldn't hurt, though, would it?  Weeks, Months, or Years?
 
There are still some pretty bad problems with Melodyne as ARA and UAD effects (and other things...), and along with a few tweaks to take lanes and a user-configurable toolbar component, these several fixes could make Sonar X3 finally ready for prime time.
 
A general estimate of when the new version will be released would be help me to know whether to start some sorts of new projects in X3 or use another daw for the time being, for example.

Cakewalk has never given dates of when things are going to happen for maintenance updates.
 
T'will be when t'will be, 
 
Bob Bone
 

brian brock
Some kind of approximation of when wouldn't hurt, though, would it?  Weeks, Months, or Years?

 
Bugs are no different from car repair. You hear a funny noise coming from your engine. You take it in for repair, and they have to look at it to figure out what the problem is. It may be a leak that can be fixed in a minute or there may be a structural problem with the engine. They may the part on hand or they may have to special order it. What with all the interlocking elements of code, doing a workaround to accommodate a manufacturer (e.g., what recently happened with POD Farm) may cause other problems. And some "bugs" will never be fixed if they are so system-specific no one at Cakewalk can reproduce them, and there aren't enough reports from users to give sufficient clues on where to look.
 
You mention ARA and UAD, so now there are two more variables. Is the problem with Sonar or ARA or UAD? All three companies are small and have their own priorities. If UA has to put out fires because Apple decided to change how the PCIe bus works on the new Mac Pro desktops, that's going to take priority. And something like a user-configurable tool bar isn't a bug, it's a feature request.
 

A general estimate of when the new version will be released would be help me to know whether to start some sorts of new projects in X3 or use another daw for the time being, for example.

 
It all depends on which DAW's bugs don't affect your particular workflow. There are people who have switched to Sonar because other software had show-stopper bugs that Sonar doesn't have.

Yes, all problems covering every conceivable scenario will be magically cured via X3E along with scurvy, gout, bubonic plague, failure to launch and the dreaded dry mouth.  The bakers are that good!

dubdisciple
Yes, all problems covering every conceivable scenario will be magically cured via X3E along with scurvy, gout, bubonic plague, failure to launch and the dreaded dry mouth.  The bakers are that good!

Finally..... I'll be able to go out in public again!!!

Hope they fix the timestretch of audio clips bug. That feature is pretty much broken and corrupts the file.

soundtweaker
Hope they fix the timestretch of audio clips bug. That feature is pretty much broken and corrupts the file.

 
Could you explain the bug in detail, please? I'm interested because it might affect my decision to upgrade to Studio (the base version doesn't have Audio Snap)...I'd upgrade immediately if Nomad plugs weren't locked to Sonar, though . Did CW confirm the bug? Do you have an issue number?

Anderton

soundtweaker
Hope they fix the timestretch of audio clips bug. That feature is pretty much broken and corrupts the file.

Can you be more specific? I time-stretch clips all the time without problems.

+1. Never had any real problems with time stretching. In fact just did a time compression yesterday in X3d. Took a 95BPM WAV file and compressed it to 100BPM.

CakeAlexS
Yup I've never heard of this one..

That's because you re-scan (or is it reset?) your plugins all the time, roight?

All DAWs have bugs, I personally think it will be a year or two before all bugs* could be addressed efficiently (total guesswork) unless they have employed an extra developer that just does bugfixing for the next year which is banned from other projects, however I would hope Cake would prioritise the worst bugs to be processed first in full, not just the bugs that are easiest to fix which can be a common trap of agile development (probably why we have all these issues lined up right now in fact), it's not just a stats game. It is best to have a few bugs that are fixed well than lots of half baked bug fixes.
 
Anyway I'm totally sure Cake understand this...
BTW as far as I'm concerned Sonar is a fully functioning DAW.
 
 
* "All bugs" meaning "all visible bugs" as "all bugs" will never be eliminated.

Good Point. The next version should be called Sonar X11.