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Re: Sneak Preview: SONAR Kingston Update 2015/11/20 12:50:15 (permalink)
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Hi, J.
 
There is a combo of scheming, learnin' and a bit of too busy/"lazy" to make the jump right away.
 
What I REALLY want to do is setup a separate partition on my C drive to install Win10 on (and all my music gack) so I can test it all out/switch back and forth and so on.
 
Probably sounds nuts but I actually want to keep both active for some study/tutorial type stuff I'm planning.
 
Glad to hear it's working well for you though. I know you were getting bonked up on occasion previously but you certainly sound like a happy camper now.
 
Cheers and thanks.




 
Join the nuts brigade, that's what I do.
The main thing to remember is when making a new windows 10 OS partition for dual boot, that you install a previous version of windows first for it to upgrade upon.

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Re: Sneak Preview: SONAR Kingston Update 2015/11/20 13:24:44 (permalink)
As regards Rapture Session, will the CCC download force all 4GB of the content onto the C drive, as it does with Dim Pro?  I would like to download it, but cannot do so if it is going to have to be on my C drive, which has limited space.  I would much rather have it on the drive I use for samples/content, but the CCC doesn't seem to allow this.
 
If that is still the case, it really needs to be fixed.  I don't use Dim Pro anymore because of this.  If it is possible to reroute the sample content, please let me know how.
 
Thanks!

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Re: Sneak Preview: SONAR Kingston Update 2015/11/20 14:56:28 (permalink)
Google "site:forum.Cakewalk.com Dimension Pro Samples registry" I am on my phone now, but the pointer to the DP samples is a registry entry. You can edit that path and move the 6GB sample directory to another drive (same new path).

There were a few posts detailing how to do this.

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Re: Sneak Preview: SONAR Kingston Update 2015/11/20 15:08:26 (permalink)
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Google "site:forum.Cakewalk.com Dimension Pro Samples registry" I am on my phone now, but the pointer to the DP samples is a registry entry. You can edit that path and move the 6GB sample directory to another drive (same new path).

There were a few posts detailing how to do this.



Thanks.  I did see those a while back and despite being rather computer savvy, tried and failed.  It may be due to multiple previous installs of Dim Pro having muddled the registry.  I believe I was having serial # issues, as well, based on registry entries.  I first bought and installed Dim Pro individually, then received it with X3 Pro and again with Platinum.
 
Either way, we shouldn't have to be down at the registry level to get this done.  CCC should allow us to choose where such things are installed, and the registry entries should follow. 
post edited by anxiousmofo - 2015/11/20 15:19:41

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Re: Sneak Preview: SONAR Kingston Update 2015/11/20 15:08:58 (permalink)
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As regards Rapture Session, will the CCC download force all 4GB of the content onto the C drive, as it does with Dim Pro?  I would like to download it, but cannot do so if it is going to have to be on my C drive, which has limited space.  I would much rather have it on the drive I use for samples/content, but the CCC doesn't seem to allow this.
 
If that is still the case, it really needs to be fixed.  I don't use Dim Pro anymore because of this.  If it is possible to reroute the sample content, please let me know how.
 
Thanks!



I keep all my samples for Cakewalk instruments on a separate drive. The five Rapture Session sample libraries for different instruments can be downloaded individually to the C drive, moved to a different drive, and then you can use the mklink symbolic link command or a registry entry to "point" the instrument to the new sample location. 
 
 

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Re: Sneak Preview: SONAR Kingston Update 2015/11/20 15:11:50 (permalink)
Thanks, Craig.  I'll give it a shot, but it still seems less than ideal.  I haven't had such problems with other "master" installers, such as XLN's or that of the now defunct Camel Audio.

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Re: Sneak Preview: SONAR Kingston Update 2015/11/20 15:43:33 (permalink)
I queried about Rap Pro file path management before it even got released. Never got an answer so I just took the risk thinking it must have been sorted out, it's just too obvious not to. I was wrong. Sadly lessons were not learned from Dim Pro and Rapture days, I would regard file path management in settings as a basic feature in the UI nowadays, esp when you look at other products. You can hack the registry (if you are brave), or mklink (if you are into spaghetti snakes and ladders). It's a bit like Linux in 1990.. Anyways... even if you do all that it's still a mess.

We were promised another RP service pack a long long time ago in a galaxy far far away, sadly has still not materialised. Instead we see this 'give away' (not clear if there are exclusive features with this or not) which was not announced at launch time, would have been nice to know back then this would happen . Well whatever. Not against this cut down version of Rap Pro but paid Rap Pro customers appear to be forgotten about. If they haven't been forgotten, then the wait time is unacceptable. Ta.
post edited by Doktor Avalanche - 2015/11/20 16:03:40

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Re: Sneak Preview: SONAR Kingston Update 2015/11/20 16:01:44 (permalink)
 
Agreeably, I'd like to see Rapture Pro still "looked after".  Some fixes like the "stuck notes" and new sounds, etc.  I thought the release of Rapture Pro was keeping it alive, but all seems kinda silent.  This new freebie seems highly likely to cut sales of Rapture Pro down the line, so maybe it's lived its lifespan in the VSTi world.  Short lives....

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Re: Sneak Preview: SONAR Kingston Update 2015/11/20 16:04:16 (permalink)
SPOILER ALERT: Han Solo will soon verify "It's all true... the [registry hacks required], the [workarounds necessary],... it's all true."
 
On a serious note, in the registry, this path on the left pane:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cakewalk Music Software\dp
 
has a string value on the right pane called "Multisamples Folder" - if you right click that, you can "Modify..." that to a different path. If you move the "C:\Program Files\Cakewalk\Dimension Pro\Multisamples" folder to another drive, the new entry should be the new path before the \Multisamples (in this case the "C:\Program Files\Cakewalk\Dimension Pro" which is the default)
 
What that entry does is give the path to Dimension Pro's internal browser window when it opens.
 
A simpler, more elegant "solution" would be to allow the user to use DP's browser window to navigate out of its "registry leash" and allow the user to assign a new (default) folder there, but that would require DP to be modified, which is unlikely.
 

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Re: Sneak Preview: SONAR Kingston Update 2015/11/20 16:10:05 (permalink)
May the force be with you....

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Re: Sneak Preview: SONAR Kingston Update 2015/11/20 16:19:09 (permalink)
Doktor Avalanche
I queried about Rap Pro file path management before it even got released. Never got an answer so I just took the risk thinking it must have been sorted out, it's just too obvious not to. I was wrong. Sadly lessons were not learned from Dim Pro and Rapture days, I would regard file path management in settings as a basic feature in the UI nowadays, esp when you look at other products. You can hack the registry (if you are brave), or mklink (if you are into spaghetti snakes and ladders). It's a bit like Linux in 1990.. Anyways... even if you do all that it's still a mess.

We were promised another RP service pack a long long time ago in a galaxy far far away, sadly has still not materialised. Instead we see this 'give away' (not clear if there are exclusive features with this or not) which was not announced at launch time, would have been nice to know back then this would happen . Well whatever. Not against this cut down version of Rap Pro but paid Rap Pro customers appear to be forgotten about. If they haven't been forgotten, then the wait time is unacceptable. Ta.

Oh but the Rapture Pro force is strong. Patience...it's coming soon.
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Re: Sneak Preview: SONAR Kingston Update 2015/11/20 18:23:12 (permalink)
Andrew Rossa [Cakewalk]....
Oh but the Rapture Pro force is strong. Patience...it's coming soon.
If Session is "greatest hits" of Pro, Yoda deduces sound files are subset. So why not sprinkle some laser dust on the Session installer and, if Pro is installed, permit it to point to the existing sound files. Thereby saving us Jedi another 4 gig of space for exploring other galaxies....
post edited by rkl122 - 2015/11/20 18:34:24

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Re: Sneak Preview: SONAR Kingston Update 2015/11/20 19:34:51 (permalink)
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As regards Rapture Session, will the CCC download force all 4GB of the content onto the C drive, as it does with Dim Pro?  I would like to download it, but cannot do so if it is going to have to be on my C drive, which has limited space.  I would much rather have it on the drive I use for samples/content, but the CCC doesn't seem to allow this.
 
If that is still the case, it really needs to be fixed.  I don't use Dim Pro anymore because of this.  If it is possible to reroute the sample content, please let me know how.
 
Thanks!



I keep all my samples for Cakewalk instruments on a separate drive. The five Rapture Session sample libraries for different instruments can be downloaded individually to the C drive, moved to a different drive, and then you can use the mklink symbolic link command or a registry entry to "point" the instrument to the new sample location. 
 
 


Sure would be nice if the installer provided an option to choose the install location. Although I'm an active fan of the Cakewalk team and the product improvements, I can't understand why this isn't basic functionality put into all Cakewalk products as a basic install option. This is standard practice for installers of any product.

The work around is asking too much of us.

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Re: Sneak Preview: SONAR Kingston Update 2015/11/20 19:40:07 (permalink)
Looking awesome, Bakers! Thank you for all the hard work you put into SONAR each month.

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Re: Sneak Preview: SONAR Kingston Update 2015/11/20 19:49:34 (permalink)
In all fairness, while I enjoy the monthly "goodies", it's the maintenance updates, and transparency of issues addressed, which allow me to troubleshoot system discrepancies. I'm not a huge fan of bloat, but everyone likes new toys. I appreciate the listing posted in each update regarding functional program improvements and send the unsung programmers my regards.
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Re: Sneak Preview: SONAR Kingston Update 2015/11/20 20:48:47 (permalink)
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We were promised another RP service pack a long long time ago in a galaxy far far away, sadly has still not materialised. 




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Re: Sneak Preview: SONAR Kingston Update 2015/11/20 20:51:22 (permalink)
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Sure would be nice if the installer provided an option to choose the install location.

 
Yes, it certainly would...but meanwhile, there's a solution. Do it once, and you never have to think about it again.

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Re: Sneak Preview: SONAR Kingston Update 2015/11/20 20:56:25 (permalink)
Very slow this update is. Do or do not, there is no soon.

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Re: Sneak Preview: SONAR Kingston Update 2015/11/20 21:16:08 (permalink)
These aren't the......




...Never mind...

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Re: Sneak Preview: SONAR Kingston Update 2015/11/20 21:21:47 (permalink)
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Very slow this update is. Do or do not, there is no soon.

 
Backwards speak you...DSP algorithm reverse , mmm? 

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Re: Sneak Preview: SONAR Kingston Update 2015/11/21 03:05:12 (permalink)
Tab to Transients is continuing to not work properly (late or wrong detction)... Thx for this bunch of fixes ;)
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Re: Sneak Preview: SONAR Kingston Update 2015/11/21 07:24:02 (permalink)
When?

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Re: Sneak Preview: SONAR Kingston Update 2015/11/21 08:46:22 (permalink)
You have been warned!
 


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Re: Sneak Preview: SONAR Kingston Update 2015/11/21 09:35:12 (permalink)
Wann kommt endlich ein Update bei dem die Automap- Software von Novation mit den entsprechenden Midicontrollern dieser Firma wieder funktioniert?
Seit der Einführung von Platinum wird das Sonar bei der Configuration der Automap- Software (Novation) nicht mehr erkannt. Ich kann also die VST- Instrumente nicht mehr wie gewohnt über Remote bedienen.
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Re: Sneak Preview: SONAR Kingston Update 2015/11/21 10:26:50 (permalink)
^^^Yea, what he said^^^
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Re: Sneak Preview: SONAR Kingston Update 2015/11/21 10:40:09 (permalink)
Sorry for my English.
When finally comes an update to Novation Master keyboards and controllers ( for example, Novation Remote SL ).
Since the introduction of the Platinum program Sonar Software ( Novation ) no longer detected in the Configuration of Automap and VST instruments can no longer be controlled remotely in this Software.
Up to version Sonar X2 there were no problems!!!
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Re: Sneak Preview: SONAR Kingston Update 2015/11/21 11:00:50 (permalink)

to eliminating MIDI crosstalk once and for all

While I had read about this I had not encountered it until very recently. Some odd things seem to be happening with MIDI since recent updates. I intend to investigate further and create a problem report, but I will wait and see if Kingston fixes things.

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Re: Sneak Preview: SONAR Kingston Update 2015/11/21 11:07:07 (permalink)
This is apparently a problem between Cakewalk and Novation . The firmware or drivers need to be adjusted .
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Re: Sneak Preview: SONAR Kingston Update 2015/11/21 11:33:42 (permalink)
HPB
Sorry for my English.
When finally comes an update to Novation Master keyboards and controllers ( for example, Novation Remote SL ).
Since the introduction of the Platinum program Sonar Software ( Novation ) no longer detected in the Configuration of Automap and VST instruments can no longer be controlled remotely in this Software.
Up to version Sonar X2 there were no problems!!!

Kein Problem. Für mich. 

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Re: Sneak Preview: SONAR Kingston Update 2015/11/21 14:08:56 (permalink)
Thanks to all the Bakers and Craig for all of your work. Kingston is very cool. Sonar keeps getting better all the time.
 
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