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Re:So Who Has Had a Project Corrupt? - (title changed from Sonar Corrupting Projects)
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So much for saving and versioning ... working on something this morning, saved it, shut down, came back 2 hours later, all the work I had done on one guitar track was gone ... poof ... vanished. No wav in the audio folder, nodda, zip, zero, zilch. Completely gone. I've never experienced that with any version of Cakewalk (Pro Audio 4 up thru X1)...
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Re:So Who Has Had a Project Corrupt? - (title changed from Sonar Corrupting Projects)
2013/11/25 12:52:24
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Resurrecting this thread because Sonar continues to corrupt my projects when I dare use it. Started with the X releases. Sonar is the only DAW I've ever had corrupt projects. Over the years, the program has become more and more unstable, for me. No problems with other DAWs, though. It's a shame, because I'd really like to use Sonar, as I enjoy it for music creation. Finally learned my lesson the last time a project got screwed on a deadline, though.
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Re:So Who Has Had a Project Corrupt? - (title changed from Sonar Corrupting Projects)
2013/11/25 12:57:22
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> How many of you have had Sonar corrupt your project? How can we deal with this?
All files corrupt. Excel, Word, Pro Tools, grep ... whatever...
That's what backup strategies are for. I backup to my server as often as I can, I just wish Cake would facilitate this better. The autoupdate facility is not good enough, we need something more like gobbler, and we need version control.
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Re:So Who Has Had a Project Corrupt? - (title changed from Sonar Corrupting Projects)
2013/11/25 13:08:32
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I have to think something is wrong with your environment or there's an interoperability issue with a particular plugin you're using. I have never had a "corrupt" Cakewalk/SONAR project in almost 25 years - at least not to the point that it couldn't be opened in safe mode and fixed by disabling some 3rd-party plug that was causing trouble, and that very rarely.
In any case, I recommend you start a new thread if you have a particular project that has issues; otherwise it's just pointless "pot stirring" to resurrect this thread.
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Re:So Who Has Had a Project Corrupt? - (title changed from Sonar Corrupting Projects)
2013/11/25 13:08:40
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....... I backup to my server as often as I can, I just wish Cake would facilitate this better. The autoupdate facility is not good enough, we need something more like gobbler, and we need version control.
Alex, you do realize this thread was started in 2011? And that Alex Niedt brought it back from the dead? And we do have Goobler intergration? And version control...well we got that don't we?
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Re:So Who Has Had a Project Corrupt? - (title changed from Sonar Corrupting Projects)
2013/11/25 13:12:53
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alexniedt
Resurrecting this thread because Sonar continues to corrupt my projects when I dare use it. Started with the X releases. Sonar is the only DAW I've ever had corrupt projects. Over the years, the program has become more and more unstable, for me. No problems with other DAWs, though. It's a shame, because I'd really like to use Sonar, as I enjoy it for music creation. Finally learned my lesson the last time a project got screwed on a deadline, though.
It really seems like you have an unusually high degree of issues regarding project corruption. I've had one corrupt project in 10+ years of using Sonar, and it was a beta of X1, so I can't be much help in terms of offering a solution. The X1 release was not exactly Cakewalk's finest moment. As you say you've had problems with the X-series, I wonder if X1 did something weird in terms of code, and it has carried forward to installations of newer versions (e.g., some corruption in a "personalized" setting that gets transferred). This is just a wild guess, I'm clueless about code, but maybe someone more knowledgeable could chime in.
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Re:So Who Has Had a Project Corrupt? - (title changed from Sonar Corrupting Projects)
2013/11/25 13:43:43
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I've had a few in the past, but nothing prior to X1c Expanded
It's all been good since then.
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Re:So Who Has Had a Project Corrupt? - (title changed from Sonar Corrupting Projects)
2013/11/25 13:49:39
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Anderton
It really seems like you have an unusually high degree of issues regarding project corruption.
As you say you've had problems with the X-series, ...
Just thinking along the same lines here. If I did have a corrupted project, I don't remember it. And the only time I couldn't open a project was because of a bad plug in. Now I have had weird stuff happen to projects that I started long ago and had them go through several versions of Sonar. What would you call a 'corrupt project?"
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Re:So Who Has Had a Project Corrupt? - (title changed from Sonar Corrupting Projects)
2013/11/25 13:52:37
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> And we do have Goobler intergration?
I don't want to use Goobler, I don't need somebody else to look after my data (who I don't know) and charge me, I want to use Samba, NTFS, FTP whatever.
> And version control...well we got that don't we?
Maybe with Gobbler but I'm not seeing any nice way of fully backing up and rolling back files within Sonar with Samba, NTFS, FTP, anything that's native.
And autobackup? - Nope don't trust that either, actually causes crashes IMHO.
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Re:So Who Has Had a Project Corrupt? - (title changed from Sonar Corrupting Projects)
2013/11/25 14:25:32
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One of the biggest culprits in project corruption for us was carrying forwards all of our prior Sonar install preferences.
This may be completely voodoo but, it wasn't until we started with a completely fresh install of the of X1 and then patched to expanded that all our problems went away. I loved how fast the feature made the install process and when your working on a deadline, its great. But completely wiping all prior versions of Sonar before the X series and starting from scratch made all the difference.
I know it sucks and its time consuming with all the additional plugs like Dimension Pro but the later installs of Dimension Pro allow you the choice of installing just the VST so you can keep your previous Multisamples directory intact.
And as far as backup,if you have a Gmail account, you already own Google Drive anyway for a cheap online storage option.
Just a thought...
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Re:So Who Has Had a Project Corrupt? - (title changed from Sonar Corrupting Projects)
2013/11/25 14:58:03
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Your experience is very much on the same lines as mine Steven
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Re:So Who Has Had a Project Corrupt? - (title changed from Sonar Corrupting Projects)
2013/11/25 15:34:41
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My only problems were a few issue from Sonar to Producer - some problems with the EQ, but I was able to solve it.
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Re:So Who Has Had a Project Corrupt? - (title changed from Sonar Corrupting Projects)
2013/11/25 16:24:14
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I can't say if x2a or x3c is to fault for the corruption of CWAs here..I only have a few saves in x3c, one of which went hairy...and will not open, which was the first one made in the new build...But it seems x3c will not open a lot of my x2a projects if any.. X3c gives me a error and option to send a file report, and or ticket...my option is forced to closing out with out sending.. (I turn off my internet on this system in bios, so sometimes I cannot send reports when it happens)..and then Sonar X3c shuts down.
So I turned my Nic on, and sent a few reports....wink....but as my nic is said to interfere with my Allen and Heath audio solution...It may now be tainting the results in the error report or now partly to cause them.
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Re:So Who Has Had a Project Corrupt? - (title changed from Sonar Corrupting Projects)
2013/11/25 18:18:38
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I had a project file truncated to 51K the other day. It was normally around 4500K. When I opened it I was presented with an empty project - weeks worth of MIDI data just gone. I was able to recover a previous version in Gobbler, but it make me worry what was up.
The project has stability issues anyway, possibly related to third party stuff, but it's crashed a few times and especially on exit. I've been racking my brains to work out exactly what I did the last time I saved it. One theory I'm toying with is that I had a crash just before I was done for the night, and it gave me the "would you like Sonar to try and save a recovery of your work" type message, and instead of clicking no (I'd probably just saved it a few minutes before) I accidentally clicked yes, and that's when it saved a truncated file.
This same project sometimes crashes Sonar when I launch it. I think I'm going to have to try and get to the bottom of why it's so unstable tonight, because it worries me Gobbler or no Gobbler.
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Re:So Who Has Had a Project Corrupt? - (title changed from Sonar Corrupting Projects)
2013/11/25 19:59:20
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I am wondering if a bunch of the corruption occurs in projects where there are 32-bit plugins running in a 64-bit Sonar.
Can some of the folks who have had many instances of corruption please respond on this aspect?
And, if there are indeed 32-bit plugs in these corrupted projects, can you please list which ones are present? Perhaps some kind of pattern can be observed.
I am just trying to see if there are 'environmental patterns' to some of this, where maybe we can collectively get better at avoiding corrupting projects moving forward.
Thanks,
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Re:So Who Has Had a Project Corrupt? - (title changed from Sonar Corrupting Projects)
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I now have SONAR X2 and it will no longer properly open .CWB files. The track clips continually show as "busy". I have Music Creator which will not recognize the SONAR .CWB files. SONAR X2 will not open the Music Creator .cwb files - same "busy" error on the clips. However, Music Creator opens these files just fine. So it appears the problem lies somewhere inside SONAR. This is across two different machines with two different operating systems. Desktop with Win 7 PRO and a laptop with Vista Ultimate 32 bit.
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Re:So Who Has Had a Project Corrupt? - (title changed from Sonar Corrupting Projects)
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☄ Helpfulby FLZapped 2015/09/12 18:43:09
I suggest you start a new thread about this particular problem. Vista isn't directly supported any longer.
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Re:So Who Has Had a Project Corrupt? - (title changed from Sonar Corrupting Projects)
2015/09/12 14:52:01
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I've had it happen. That's why it's a really good idea to have Sonar auto back up your project. I had it happen the other night when Sonar froze up. When I tried to open it back up it said the file was truncated (half of it missing). I opened the backup and everything was fine. I have Sonar set to back up at every 5 changes. So I never lose much of anything.
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Re:So Who Has Had a Project Corrupt? - (title changed from Sonar Corrupting Projects)
2015/09/12 18:36:39
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I suggest you start a new thread about this particular problem. Vista isn't directly supported any longer.
In case you didn't noticed, I said the problem occurs across multiple OSs....therefore it ISN'T the OS.
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Re:So Who Has Had a Project Corrupt? - (title changed from Sonar Corrupting Projects)
2015/09/12 18:55:51
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Unless you are the OP it's best to start a new thread rather than resurrect/piggy back on something from 4 years ago. Likely to cause confusion as it has done already. ta.
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Re:So Who Has Had a Project Corrupt? - (title changed from Sonar Corrupting Projects)
2015/09/12 23:31:07
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I suggest you start a new thread about this particular problem. Vista isn't directly supported any longer.
In case you didn't noticed, I said the problem occurs across multiple OSs....therefore it ISN'T the OS.
You are a complete and total pillock. In case you didn't notice.
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Re:So Who Has Had a Project Corrupt? - (title changed from Sonar Corrupting Projects)
2015/09/12 23:35:52
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Just had one on Sonar8.5, which is what I'm still using. Like they said, as long as you have saved it in several places, you're usually ok. Always keep an older version around somewhere.
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Re:So Who Has Had a Project Corrupt? - (title changed from Sonar Corrupting Projects)
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I suggest you start a new thread about this particular problem.
In case you didn't noticed, I said the problem occurs across multiple OSs....therefore it ISN'T the OS.
You are a complete and total pillock. In case you didn't notice.
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I suggest you start a new thread about this particular problem. Vista isn't directly supported any longer.
In case you didn't noticed, I said the problem occurs across multiple OSs....therefore it ISN'T the OS.
You are a complete and total pillock. In case you didn't notice.
Hahaha - indeed. Sometimes people get the assistance they deserve:)
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Re:So Who Has Had a Project Corrupt? - (title changed from Sonar Corrupting Projects)
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I suggest you start a new thread about this particular problem. Vista isn't directly supported any longer.
In case you didn't noticed, I said the problem occurs across multiple OSs....therefore it ISN'T the OS.
You are a complete and total pillock. In case you didn't notice.
Oh how nice. Found to be wrong, so the only thing you can do is hurl insults.
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