Softube Mix Bundle for ProChannel is back for a limited time!

Having got this the first time around I can't recommend it highly enough

Go get yourself some.

How can I see how they look in ProChannel? ProChannel have small width but plugins Softube have a big and nice grafic mode.

Don't have an iLok nor do I want one. Too bad. I'll miss out on this one again.  

Well - unfortunately I will not be able to get the money together before the offer ends. Really a shame. Well - that's how things go sometimes. Anyway - I think a lot of people will be pleased by this.

I too resisted the dreaded iLok for a long time and then finally broke down and got one because my Ivory II program demanded it. So I got it. Since then it has been really convient for me for quite a few programs, my East West Play program also uses it, my TSAR-1R reverb unit uses it, so by already having it, it's no longer an issue, as an iLock will hold 99 or 100 licenses I believe. I haven't had any problems with it, so there you go.
 
 
 
 
 
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another resounding "No" to an ilok.. the vendors will lose more than they think they keep with pursuit of a dongle mentality...

Well the bottom line is, are the programs worth it to you to get the iLok ?? In my case I have three very high quality programs that require the iLok. I wouldn't want to be with out any of them. The East West Gold Complete program is fabulous. The Softube TSAR-1R is fabulous. The Ivory II program is fabulous. So by boycotting the iLok, you're only hurting yourself, by limiting your choice of high quality software programs. I've got $1,000's of dollars invested in quality software and computer gear, a measly $40 bucks for an iLok is nothing in comparison.

Mystic38

djwayne


Well the bottom line is, are the programs worth it to you to get the iLok ?? In my case I have three very high quality programs that require the iLok. I wouldn't want to be with out any of them. The East West Gold Complete program is fabulous. The Softube TSAR-1R is fabulous. The Ivory II program is fabulous. So by boycotting the iLok, you're only hurting yourself, by limiting your choice of high quality software programs. I've got $1,000's of dollars invested in quality software and computer gear, a measly $40 bucks for an iLok is nothing in comparison.

if you think its about $40 you have not read the thread

Mine was $40 a couple years ago, I believe the second generation iLok is now $49.99.

Not only to do refuse to be tethered by an iLok or like device, I cannot afford to free up a port for it. (And please don't suggest a hub!) I am with Linear on this one. Understanding the need to prevent piracy, why should I have to invest more than necessary to use a product I would have already purchased? That's a drag! Wait, I still can't hear anything in SONAR because I refuse to buy a sound card/audio interface. I can't afford to free up....

The good old iLok debate...

I actually agree with both sides, come to think of it. I hate dongles and if I was still only using a lap top as a DAW I wouldn't get one. But in my desktop I don't mind having one installed. At least iLok is fairly stable. The Steinberg thing (eLisencer?) keeps messing up a bit. I ended up geting an iLok for EWQLSO and then a world of awesome software opened up for me so I'm happy with that.

The cost issue - well, based on principles, OK, but it's not really that expensive. I mean, how much do you spend on chips and soda every month? If you choose chips and soda, that's fine too.

So many good arguments on both sides. But to be fair, it's really down to principles so once again YMMV.

BTW - I don't put any iLok protected stuff on my Lap Top for the same reasons others have mentioned in this thread. I won't ever stick an iLok into my lap top.

djwayne

Mystic38

djwayne


Well the bottom line is, are the programs worth it to you to get the iLok ?? In my case I have three very high quality programs that require the iLok. I wouldn't want to be with out any of them. The East West Gold Complete program is fabulous. The Softube TSAR-1R is fabulous. The Ivory II program is fabulous. So by boycotting the iLok, you're only hurting yourself, by limiting your choice of high quality software programs. I've got $1,000's of dollars invested in quality software and computer gear, a measly $40 bucks for an iLok is nothing in comparison.

if you think its about $40 you have not read the thread

Mine was $40 a couple years ago, I believe the second generation iLok is now $49.99.

you misconstrued my post.. i had meant .."if you think this is about the $40 you have not read the thread".. regards.
 
 

Just a heads-up in case this has been overlooked. Softube requires the ilok (v1 or v2). Cakewalk's family of products is dongle free..., still. And I don't believe this is going to change any time soon. The iLok saga has been debated ad nauseam (with valid points on both sides of the debate). It's a choice each individual has to make for themselves.

+1 on I don't want iLok.

/M

I used to argue the toss over the iLok and the being treated like a criminal mentality was my line as well.

then I got an iLok and now realize the convenience of having it as I can have my plugs installed on any PC I like and they're always authorised once I plug in my iLok.

When vendors employ other types of registration/activation protection schemes you often run out of activations after a while and you have to go through the hassle of contacting them to reset your activations.

When iZotope moved to giving you a choice of iLok or challenge response I actually put all my iZotope plugins on iLok for convenience.

I used to argue the toss over the iLok and the being treated like a criminal mentality was my line as well.

 
I too used to feel this way about a lot of things. Things like someone wanting to look through my bag and see my receipt when leaving a Walmart or other stores not being OK with people bringing bags in the store. Then one day I heard how much money Walmart and other stores lose to theft. Once I was in a small convience store, I was doing some work for them, for the store chain and noticed that they had moved all the cigarettes off the counter. I mentioned it and they told me that they had lost about 100 bucks in stolen packs on ONE SHIFT.
 
It is hard to understand this if you are an honest person. Honest people tend to trust others and generally have no idea how many dishonest people and thieves there are all around them. On the other hand a dishonest person doesn't trust anyone else, they see everyone else as a thief too. Business is in the middle of this as a victim. So, I understand why some companies go with an ilok and if I weren't using a laptop right now I would buy one. It is just one of the costs of living in this world. There is no reason to resent it once you understand just how many people will steal something if they can.
 
I fully understand how you feel. I don't like being treated like I would steal something, like I may be a thief... but that isn't really what is happening. It isn't personal, it is just sad that there are so many dishonest people all around. People who will steal things they don't even want or need, people who will quickly lie for gain, scammers, and on and on.
 
Think about it. Business isn't attacking you personally. I found it a waste of time and effort to take being treated like a potential thief as offensive once I came to understand how much is lost to thieves every day.
50 bucks isn't that much and I will get one once I get a dedicated tower DAW.
 
As Marius said... YMMV.
 
J