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Re: Selecting a range on the timeline bug in Gloucester??? July 30, 15 5:54 PM (permalink)
Looking at the ezine seems likely to be a regression bug once validated...
 
 Fixed issue where under certain conditions smart tool was not able to slip edit clips with small fades. (CWBRN-5396, CWBRN-4157)
 Clip Lock icon obscuring the Clip name is no longer an issue. (CWBRN-23592)

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Re: Selecting a range on the timeline bug in Gloucester??? July 30, 15 5:54 PM (permalink)
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Here's an iPhone video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hbnq-Bjmar8

During the first seconds you are clicking on the track, but not on the track number... From what I know, focusing track and selecting material are completely independent tasks.

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Re: Selecting a range on the timeline bug in Gloucester??? July 30, 15 5:59 PM (permalink)
You need to click the track number to select. There's a difference between track "focus" which is only on track at a time, and track selection, which can apply to multiple tracks.
 
SONAR has never selected clips based on track focus.

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Re: Selecting a range on the timeline bug in Gloucester??? July 30, 15 6:00 PM (permalink)
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Here's an iPhone video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hbnq-Bjmar8

During the first seconds you are clicking on the track, but not on the track number... From what I know, focusing track and selecting material are completely independent tasks.


I'm selecting the way that I have always selected before and it has always worked before.


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Re: Selecting a range on the timeline bug in Gloucester??? July 30, 15 6:03 PM (permalink)
Just tried clicking on track number, no difference.


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Re: Selecting a range on the timeline bug in Gloucester??? July 30, 15 6:03 PM (permalink)
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gustabo
Here's an iPhone video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hbnq-Bjmar8

During the first seconds you are clicking on the track, but not on the track number... From what I know, focusing track and selecting material are completely independent tasks.





Clicking on the track number is absolutely imperative. Just clicking on the track brings the track "In Focus". Clicking on the number "Selects" the track (and the number on a selected track will turn blue). Only one track can be "In Focus" at one time but multiple tracks can be "Selected".
 
In Focus tracks can only perform some limited functions compared to fully "Selected" tracks.
 
If this is the confusion (which is understandable) then the test needs to be redone using the correct selection method.
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Re: Selecting a range on the timeline bug in Gloucester??? July 30, 15 6:05 PM (permalink)
gustabo
Just tried selecting on track number, no difference.




Can we see a video of that approach. The previous video was helpful.

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Re: Selecting a range on the timeline bug in Gloucester??? July 30, 15 6:05 PM (permalink)
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Just tried selecting on track number, no difference.




Are you holding the Ctrl key when selecting the 2nd track? That is how you multi select.
 
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Re: Selecting a range on the timeline bug in Gloucester??? July 30, 15 6:06 PM (permalink)
In case you missed my post, just tried clicking on track number to select, no difference.


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Re: Selecting a range on the timeline bug in Gloucester??? July 30, 15 6:07 PM (permalink)
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gustabo
Here's an iPhone video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hbnq-Bjmar8

During the first seconds you are clicking on the track, but not on the track number... From what I know, focusing track and selecting material are completely independent tasks.

I'm selecting the way that I have always selected before and it has always worked before.

Tested in X3, it does not work your way either (as expected).
 
BTW I am fighting with focus/selection/data cursor "triality" from other direction for quite some time already, I have not found the way to sync first two or first and third does not matter which tricks I have used... X2,X3,SPlat.

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Re: Selecting a range on the timeline bug in Gloucester??? July 30, 15 6:08 PM (permalink)
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Just tried selecting on track number, no difference.




Are you holding the Ctrl key when selecting the 2nd track? That is how you multi select.
 


Yes.
If a track is selected, the track number lights up, when I try to select another track or multiple tracks, only the original stays lit and the other track does not get selected.


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Re: Selecting a range on the timeline bug in Gloucester??? July 30, 15 6:12 PM (permalink)
Yes it works fine/ as expected here also. (Win7 Pro)
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Re: Selecting a range on the timeline bug in Gloucester??? July 30, 15 6:17 PM (permalink)
gustabo
Repro steps:
New project
Drag two separate audio files into the project.
Select a portion from the timeline and then select the first track you dragged in.
Or select a portion from one of the two tracks and then try to change tracks.
Or try to select both tracks...
 

 
Doktor
#14 works on 8.1 and Foxborough, just in case people question whether it was working before.
I won't be installing Gloucester for a couple of weeks/next maintenance release so sorry I can't test.

 
gustabo
Here's an iPhone video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hbnq-Bjmar8

 
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SONAR has never selected clips based on track focus.

 
Well I can select with Foxborough, it seems to select using gustabo's steps in post #14, and it doesn't seem to select according to his video using the same steps.

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Re: Selecting a range on the timeline bug in Gloucester??? July 30, 15 6:17 PM (permalink)
gustabo
If a track is selected, the track number lights up, when I try to select another track or multiple tracks, only the original stays lit and the other track does not get selected.

Focus another track (as you do in the video) and press Ctrl+',' (comma). Does that extend the selection?

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Re: Selecting a range on the timeline bug in Gloucester??? July 30, 15 6:41 PM (permalink)
Bob, have you tried restarting SONAR and/or rebooting anywhere along the line?

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Re: Selecting a range on the timeline bug in Gloucester??? July 30, 15 7:16 PM (permalink)
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If a track is selected, the track number lights up, when I try to select another track or multiple tracks, only the original stays lit and the other track does not get selected.

Focus another track (as you do in the video) and press Ctrl+',' (comma). Does that extend the selection?


Yes that works


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Re: Selecting a range on the timeline bug in Gloucester??? July 30, 15 7:16 PM (permalink)
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Bob, have you tried restarting SONAR and/or rebooting anywhere along the line?


Yes, done both.


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Re: Selecting a range on the timeline bug in Gloucester??? July 30, 15 7:21 PM (permalink)
Here's a video where I select a range, the second audio track gets highlighted and I can't select the first one, not trying to select multiple tracks, just the other one...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=802ayIlwnpw
 


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Re: Selecting a range on the timeline bug in Gloucester??? July 30, 15 7:23 PM (permalink)
In Gloucester, the only way that I can select multiple tracks is by "Ctrl" + ","


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Re: Selecting a range on the timeline bug in Gloucester??? July 30, 15 7:30 PM (permalink)
I just tested with Platinum x64 and Windows 7 64. Works exactly as expected here, with different tracks, ctrl-clicking, deselecting, moving the timeline and trying again, etc. 
 
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Re: Selecting a range on the timeline bug in Gloucester??? July 30, 15 7:32 PM (permalink)
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Here's a video where I select a range, the second audio track gets highlighted and I can't select the first one, not trying to select multiple tracks, just the other one...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=802ayIlwnpw
 

 
Must be that evil, black pointer you're using.
 
I'm thinking reinstall from a Cakewalk Store download. Possibly some .DLL didn't get updated.

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Re: Selecting a range on the timeline bug in Gloucester??? July 30, 15 7:47 PM (permalink)
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gustabo
Here's a video where I select a range, the second audio track gets highlighted and I can't select the first one, not trying to select multiple tracks, just the other one...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=802ayIlwnpw
 

 
Must be that evil, black pointer you're using.
 
I'm thinking reinstall from a Cakewalk Store download. Possibly some .DLL didn't get updated.


The evil black pointer is a stock MSoft issue alternative to the standard default pointer...
Just re-downloaded from the store and reinstalled, no change...
This issue appears on two different systems with a blank project (no plugins at all).
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Re: Selecting a range on the timeline bug in Gloucester??? July 30, 15 7:48 PM (permalink)
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I just tested with Platinum x64 and Windows 7 64. Works exactly as expected here, with different tracks, ctrl-clicking, deselecting, moving the timeline and trying again, etc. 
 
http://youtu.be/pDw4CbL3yJU


That's how Foxboro works for me but not Gloucester...


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Re: Selecting a range on the timeline bug in Gloucester??? July 30, 15 7:52 PM (permalink)
Gustabo, I've been using 32-bit Everett on Windows 7 64-bit OS, and I actually decided to download Gloucester to see if I could see what you've shown in your video captures.
 
I couldn't! I see the same behavior in both releases (32-bit apps on 64-bit OS).
 
Sorry, I can't back you up on this one.
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Re: Selecting a range on the timeline bug in Gloucester??? July 30, 15 7:53 PM (permalink)
I can select multiple clips but not multiple tracks.


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Re: Selecting a range on the timeline bug in Gloucester??? July 30, 15 8:06 PM (permalink)
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I just tested with Platinum x64 and Windows 7 64. Works exactly as expected here, with different tracks, ctrl-clicking, deselecting, moving the timeline and trying again, etc. 
 
http://youtu.be/pDw4CbL3yJU


That's how Foxboro works for me but not Gloucester...




The video was done with Gloucester, so can't help you out there.
 
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Re: Selecting a range on the timeline bug in Gloucester??? July 30, 15 8:09 PM (permalink)
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I just tested with Platinum x64 and Windows 7 64. Works exactly as expected here, with different tracks, ctrl-clicking, deselecting, moving the timeline and trying again, etc. 
 
http://youtu.be/pDw4CbL3yJU


Steps from post #14?

Edit just saw video sorry. Yeah that's how it works for me and the Sonar Fox.

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Re: Selecting a range on the timeline bug in Gloucester??? July 30, 15 8:14 PM (permalink)
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I just tested with Platinum x64 and Windows 7 64. Works exactly as expected here, with different tracks, ctrl-clicking, deselecting, moving the timeline and trying again, etc. 
 
http://youtu.be/pDw4CbL3yJU


Steps from post #14?

Edit just saw video sorry. Yeah that's how it works for me and the Sonar Fox.

Are you saying that you are having problems in Gloucester too?


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Re: Selecting a range on the timeline bug in Gloucester??? July 30, 15 8:15 PM (permalink)
Nope not installing it please see my previous posts. Ta.

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Re: Selecting a range on the timeline bug in Gloucester??? July 30, 15 8:19 PM (permalink)
Working fine (as expected) in win8 on my laptop...

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