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2015/01/27 13:17:21 (permalink)

Some Basic Sonar Needs

As a professional recording software, Sonar needs to be (above all) crash proof.
In the event of a sonar crash at present, Sonar loses all soundcard drivers and
if you are going to continue to record, a total reboot of your computer is needed.
There is no recovery from the famous (white page).
Internal sends from one channel to another as are allowed on good mixing boards, is long overdue as well.
"Heart of the engine" type of improvements are needed, not more gadgets and more complications.
At present, Sonar is defined by clutter. As complicated as most elaborate mixing boards appear, they are
very straight forward in use.
Audio is not rocket science. Generally speaking, the more it is messed with the worse it gets.
 
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Re: Some Basic Sonar Needs 2015/01/27 13:23:38 (permalink)
I cannot corroborate your experience at all. If Sonar crashes on me (which is not often) I just reopen and continue.

If you need to reboot, that points to a driver issue. What interface are you using?
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Re: Some Basic Sonar Needs 2015/01/27 13:36:24 (permalink)
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As a professional recording software, Sonar needs to be (above all) crash proof.
In the event of a sonar crash at present, Sonar loses all soundcard drivers and
if you are going to continue to record, a total reboot of your computer is needed.
There is no recovery from the famous (white page).
Internal sends from one channel to another as are allowed on good mixing boards, is long overdue as well.
"Heart of the engine" type of improvements are needed, not more gadgets and more complications.
At present, Sonar is defined by clutter. As complicated as most elaborate mixing boards appear, they are
very straight forward in use.
Audio is not rocket science. Generally speaking, the more it is messed with the worse it gets.
 
Joe Lemon


Your contradicting/confusing comments incline me to think that you're a troll.
Please give some specifics on your system as well as your actual issue(s).
 

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Re: Some Basic Sonar Needs 2015/01/27 13:41:12 (permalink)
joined an hour ago to bash.  Pass by this joker and people that have similar comments, post totals, and join dates.

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Re: Some Basic Sonar Needs 2015/01/27 13:42:56 (permalink)
You can always post a problem here: http://forum.cakewalk.com/Problem-Reports-f77.aspx
And if you have an idea or feature request, you can post those here:  http://forum.cakewalk.com/Features-Ideas-f76.aspx
 
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Re: Some Basic Sonar Needs 2015/01/27 13:52:15 (permalink)
I agree with other responses here; not much of what you've written is supportable, if anything.
 
In my experience, SONAR is highly crash-resistant; nothing is "crash proof". A SONAR hang or crash generally will not cause a interface driver issue, but the reverse can often be true, and may well be in your case. And SONAR is way more than a mixing board; if you strip out everything that would not be found on a mixing console, SONAR would be no more "cluttered" than said console other than due to the obvious realestate limitations.
 
Beyond this, there can be no useful response to such a laundry list of unsupported statements and claims.
 
 

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Re: Some Basic Sonar Needs 2015/01/27 14:12:51 (permalink) ☼ Best Answerby jlemon2 2015/01/27 17:44:32
Plenty of other DAWs on the market for you to choose from. Sonar does what it does and does it well. There are certain things it does not do and it does require a stable system for the best performance. If you want it to do the few specific things it is not currently programmed to do or you can't be bothered to run it on an appropriate system with the appropriate support hardware then it just may not be the program for you. For me, as guitarist and composer X3 works fabulously and I look forward to eventually getting the new version.
 
I realize that with your one post and negative comments with no real question that you are likely here to just stir up the proverbial poop but there are many of us here who will take the time to correct your slander and misdirection so others looking for REAL opinions from REAL users can get accurate info.
 
To sum up for those folks...
 
No, Sonar does not allow channels to be routed to one another directly like other programs who use tracks as busses but there are plenty of ways to simulate this routing within the program. Also I, personally, much prefer the strict distinction between busses and tracks. I find it much easier to manage and keep track of as opposed to the wacky schemes the more traditional DAWs have. That said I kind of see Cake potentially moving toward adding these types of functions now that they have starting screwing around with the Sends and Inserts portion of the program and the fact there have been some requests here on the forum for such functionality.
 
Yes, Sonar tends to be a little more finicky than SOME of the other DAWs and you will want to have a solid system to run it with a good interface with good drivers (I recommend Focusrite for your interface). However the program has become MUCH more stable since the release of X3 and it looks like the new Sonar is going to really hammer out the last of those little oddities. That said I have been using X3 for over a year now and have not experienced anything significant in regards to stability issues like in the past so that repurtation seems to be a thing of the past. You just need a decent system, set things up properly and not be a total spazz with the program.
 
As far as all the bells and whistles... it truly is an all in one package and I personally LOVE that about Sonar. If I had gone with my original DAW of choice I would have had to spend three times as much buying supportive software (instruments, effects, etc) to be able to have a full creative set up and in fact the DAW itself cost almost 3 times as much. I took the gamble and it has paid of over and over and over again.
 
I am not a "fanbois". I would not say all this if I thought Sonar was crappy in any way (and I've made posts on this very forum abotu past grievances). It is a very powerful and useful tool for me personally and I've been trying out some alternatives recently. Those other tools have their percs but they do NOT even come close to Sonar for my personal needs and workflow. I can do pretty much everything I need to using Sonar and the included tools and honestly as an artist I enjoy the process more than in the other programs which I find kind of stale and boring.
 
So there's an honest review from a real user who does real work regularly with Sonar as opposed to a spam troll trying to flood the intertubes with the lame old stereotypes about the program (which I had heard repeatedly before becoming a user and STILL hear from folks who haven't even used the program for YEARS).
 
If you are starting out try out all the demos of all the DAWs, compare the feature sets and pricepoints, figure out what your computer and hardware can handle and most importantly what YOU need the DAW to do and make your decisions from there. If you just need to get your tracks into your computer... maybe the alternatives are better. If you want a full production suite with every instrument and effect you could ever need... then ya, Sonar is worth it and is very cost effective.
 
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Re: Some Basic Sonar Needs 2015/01/27 14:20:53 (permalink)
Beeps, the OP didn't deserve all this effort you put into it. They most likely just get a kick out of all this.......and move on to the next "victim".  

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Re: Some Basic Sonar Needs 2015/01/27 14:23:12 (permalink)
PS: Don't consider that a "bite" Mr. Lemon. It is a fact based neutralization of your erroneous and highly suspect comments. You did not waste my time or make me angry. In actuality you should be the one who is angry because you just wasted your time (or the time/money of whoever may have paid you to post that).
 
That is another huge benefit of being a Cakewalker. Quick, accurate and honest information. The community will not only help with support issues much faster, friendlier and more accurately than other communities you can essentially learn how to produce music from start to finish just by hanging around this place without being attacked or insulted... even if you DON'T use Sonar.
 
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Re: Some Basic Sonar Needs 2015/01/27 14:27:12 (permalink)
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Beeps, the OP didn't deserve all this effort you put into it. They most likely just get a kick out of all this.......and move on to the next "victim".  



Many times, I write responses not for the OP but for those who might be reading the thread. Other forumites do the same and Beepster is one of them. What he wrote will be helpful to anyone who is considering SONAR, sees the OP, and then finds out the reality of the situation. They will most definitely appreciate his efforts! And they'll also find out what makes these forums so helpful.

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Re: Some Basic Sonar Needs 2015/01/27 14:35:05 (permalink)
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Beeps, the OP didn't deserve all this effort you put into it. They most likely just get a kick out of all this.......and move on to the next "victim".  



Many times, I write responses not for the OP but for those who might be reading the thread. Other forumites do the same and Beepster is one of them. What he wrote will be helpful to anyone who is considering SONAR, sees the OP, and then finds out the reality of the situation. They will most definitely appreciate his efforts! And they'll also find out what makes these forums so helpful.


Good point Craig.........I failed to think about the others who might beneft from this.......(I was just a bit annoyed with the OP and their kind).
 
Sorry about that Beeps......"go on with your bad self!!"  

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Re: Some Basic Sonar Needs 2015/01/27 14:39:33 (permalink)
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I was just a bit annoyed with the OP and their kind



Totally understandable. It does seem silly to answer them, but remember for every person who posts there are at least 20-100 who "lurk."

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Re: Some Basic Sonar Needs 2015/01/27 14:40:40 (permalink)
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Beeps, the OP didn't deserve all this effort you put into it. They most likely just get a kick out of all this.......and move on to the next "victim".  




Not for his/her benefit. It's for those who, like me a few years back, are trying to make an informed decision on what product to purchase. The net is flooded with this kind of crap about Sonar and really it almost steered me in another direction. Thankfully I followed the feeling in my gut and the more accurate reviews instead of the trolls, dullards and malcontents. We seem to be getting inundated with far more of that crap than usual lately so I think it is time to start neutralizing it by posting the truth any time we see someone trying to spread falsehoods.
 
That said... people need to be aware of the facts. I don't think Sonar is for everyone and I know how frustrating it can be to invest in something that just isn't the correct tool for the job. For live musicians, for those looking to compose MIDI (via PRV and step sequencing... NOT notation), for folks who need a robust set of mixing tools and want a natural mixing workflow, for those who want advanced pitch correction (and even timing correction even though that isn't QUITE as easy as other platforms) then Sonar is the way to go.
 
For loopty loopers, for those who want old style insert set ups, for those who want hyper easy and flexible MIDI controller set up, for those who need to take their rig live for backing tracks or performances, for those who have crummy computers/don't have a decent interface, for those who can't be bothered to RTFM and put some effort into learning the program, etc... it may not be the best choice.
 
For me and my needs X3 is brilliant and has saved me a bloody fortune on extra doodads that are imperative to what I need to create. Also it looks like a lot of those limitations are going to start getting resolved too but it will require us, as a community, to do OUR part and put in (and vote for) the requests. With the big money backing of Gibson and all the effort the Bakers seem to be putting into scouring our requests (seriously a huge bulk of things I asked for are in the new Sonar even though I sadly cannot afford to upgrade just yet) I have a very good feeling about the future.
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Re: Some Basic Sonar Needs 2015/01/27 14:43:48 (permalink)
No need for an apology, Mesh. I get it and I normally wouldn't feed a troll but there seems to be a concerted effort to flood the site with this crap lately. Just felt like counteracting it today.
 
Craig nailed it... and much more succinctly than I did in my follow up. lol
 
Cheers, guys.
 
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Re: Some Basic Sonar Needs 2015/01/27 14:55:18 (permalink)
Well, though probably a troll, there are a few nuggets worth considering in their post.
 
First, their mention of the White Screen of Death (WSOD). I've had SONAR hang on me in that state, and that dreaded "do I wait forever or try and click one more time" anxiety when the "Not Responding" come up in the title bar. At that point a few things become knowns: everything since your last save is gone, you better hope when you fire this back up the project file isn't corrupted, and like he points out, crap I hope the drivers don't need to be reset too! All of these feelings are quite terrible to have.
 
I don't use other DAWs as much as I use SONAR anymore, but I do use Vegas, and occasionally Reaper and ACID. Whenever I have a problem that can't be solved in SONAR (video won't import, I need to do varispeed stuff, or I'm working on video and need to do "just a little" audio work that isn't worth exporting out and into SONAR) I'm always surprised at how much more "agile" the other programs seem when I need to use them. Video specifically, SONAR chokes on video all the time and I dump it into ACID or Vegas and I'm off to the races, no muss no fuss. If I'm working mobile, on the older laptop, SONAR will choke and sputter but I throw up Reaper and things work great. Super smooth and no performance issues. That's a drag for me because I find Reaper to be very obtuse and difficult to do all but the basics.
 
All that said SONAR is still my workhorse and I work pretty quickly on it. So, I can see still being a cheerleader but also wanting to tackle the rough spots that make my own user experience less than flawless.
 
 

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Re: Some Basic Sonar Needs 2015/01/27 15:17:49 (permalink)
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Well, though probably a troll, there are a few nuggets worth considering in their post.
 
First, their mention of the White Screen of Death (WSOD). I've had SONAR hang on me in that state, and that dreaded "do I wait forever or try and click one more time" anxiety when the "Not Responding" come up in the title bar. At that point a few things become knowns: everything since your last save is gone, you better hope when you fire this back up the project file isn't corrupted, and like he points out, crap I hope the drivers don't need to be reset too! All of these feelings are quite terrible to have.
 
I don't use other DAWs as much as I use SONAR anymore, but I do use Vegas, and occasionally Reaper and ACID. Whenever I have a problem that can't be solved in SONAR (video won't import, I need to do varispeed stuff, or I'm working on video and need to do "just a little" audio work that isn't worth exporting out and into SONAR) I'm always surprised at how much more "agile" the other programs seem when I need to use them. Video specifically, SONAR chokes on video all the time and I dump it into ACID or Vegas and I'm off to the races, no muss no fuss. If I'm working mobile, on the older laptop, SONAR will choke and sputter but I throw up Reaper and things work great. Super smooth and no performance issues. That's a drag for me because I find Reaper to be very obtuse and difficult to do all but the basics.
 
All that said SONAR is still my workhorse and I work pretty quickly on it. So, I can see still being a cheerleader but also wanting to tackle the rough spots that make my own user experience less than flawless.
 



Hi, wicked. I actually only get those white screens on start up and actually it does happen more often than I would like. However it does NOT happen while I'm working so I'm wondering if you mean just at startup or when you are actually doing something.
 
Either way I find the WORST thing to do when it goes whitescreen is to start clicking around. As an obsesssive weirdo I find it REALLY hard to resiste not trying to do something about the whitescreen while it is happening but just letting it figure otu wahtever it needs to (instead of clicking all over the place) is the best poilicy when it happens.
 
In fact the ONLY time I experience any real problems with Sonar X3 is when I get impatient and try to force something. As I said it is a little finicky in general and I do hope they are working hard at making things more stable (and really X3 is a million times more stable than X2 was) but if I'm patient and be careful I'm not trying to cram a ridiculous pile of processes down its throat at once then it's cool. Also keeping a close eye on the buffers in comparison to the work being done is crucial. It's easy for me to forget that I just did a bunch of low latency tracking then try to do a bunch of crazy editing stuff (like speed comping or bulk renders) without reupping my buffers. That will lead to some problems.
 
I agree that SOME of the other programs aren't as cranky but with a bit of caution and patience I've been able to avoid crashes and since X3 I haven't (touch wood) had any catastrophic crashes unless I was doing something really dumb. Even then I've managed to figure it out after the fact so not so catastrophic.
 
Video though... yeah, I think video is something I would be ULTRA careful with in Sonar. It's a nice feature to have but yanno... there's better programs for that stuff.
 
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Re: Some Basic Sonar Needs 2015/01/27 16:37:00 (permalink)
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Re: Some Basic Sonar Needs 2015/01/27 17:00:57 (permalink)
I sometimes get a hanging white screen with "Not Responding" in the title bar.
 
The last time it happened, I ignored it, went and made a coffee, came back and my project was fully loaded and seemingly in perfect working order.
 
Needless to say, i did an immediate "save as", closed down & restarted Sonar.
 
The project has loaded/saved/played flawlessly ever since.
 
So  the morale is, don't try and force a closure - be a little patient.

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Re: Some Basic Sonar Needs 2015/01/27 17:17:15 (permalink)
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I sometimes get a hanging white screen with "Not Responding" in the title bar.
 
The last time it happened, I ignored it, went and made a coffee, came back and my project was fully loaded and seemingly in perfect working order.
 
Needless to say, i did an immediate "save as", closed down & restarted Sonar.
 
The project has loaded/saved/played flawlessly ever since.
 
So  the morale is, don't try and force a closure - be a little patient.




'Zactly. It's annoying and it shouldn't happen so frequently but the solution is... let Sonar do whatever the heck it is doing and all will be well.
 
The thing is this happens to me with other programs all the time too like Firefox or whatever. However they don't completely white out liek Sonar does. They just go kind of grey and you can still see everything. Honestly I think it is the exact same thing going on and it is probably Windows or the computer choking more than the actual programs.
 
It's just with Sonar because it flashes to that blaring white window instead of just freezing/greying out like other programs it FEELS more catastrophic than it is. Not that I give a crap (aside from getting more stability to avoid it entirely) but maybe the Baker's should figure out how to turn that whitescreen into the less anxiety inducing greyout of other programs.
 
BTW... as I said I only get the white outs on start up and actually I can almost completely avoid them if I...
 
a) Don't open Sonar immediately after booting up (as in wait a few minutes after I am booted up and fully logged into the system)
 
b) Wait for the automatic VST scan to complete and I can see the "Toast" pop up confirming it (and then wait abotu 30 seconds or so).
 
c) Open my project and do not touch ANYTHING until it is loaded... no matter what is going on.
 
If I do that I may get a white screen for a second but usually it just loads. If I get spazzy and start clicking all over the place then it just takes longer and weird crap starts happening.
 
Same goes for MIDI devices and various other stuff. If I do things too quickly or do them in the wrong order I'll have problems (like turning on devices AFTER opening Sonar or opening Sonar immediately after turning on a device).
 
I think really it just takes a little while for everything to interconnect within Windows. Not ideal but it ain't no big deal.
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Re: Some Basic Sonar Needs 2015/01/27 17:48:38 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby jatoth 2015/01/28 13:27:10
I had no idea what kind of people I was posting to. I won't bother defending myself.
No need.
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Re: Some Basic Sonar Needs 2015/01/27 18:03:29 (permalink)
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I had no idea what kind of people I was posting to. I won't bother defending myself.
No need.




You are posting to the kind of people who will bend over backwards to help you sort out any issues you may be having. If you are being genuine post some specific details in regards to your system set up, what the problems are and when/how they manifest themselves.
 
We'll be here whenever you are ready.
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Re: Some Basic Sonar Needs 2015/01/27 18:20:37 (permalink)
Beepster, et al, as a deep lurker and hopeless noobie, I can confirm what Craig says, that I benefited greatly from your response to Mr. Lemon. My recording experiences were all on an old Tascam porta-studio cassette machine in the late '80s, and after 25 years of neglecting music and recording I suddenly caught the bug again. But man, this is like stepping from the puddle into the ocean. I read these forums with obsessive fascination and you cats are like my lifeline. I'm pretty sure I made the right choice with Sonar (something I can grow into) but a fellow like Mr. Lemon can still make my poor noob bones tremble. So yeah, think of me when you respond to the trolls. 

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Re: Some Basic Sonar Needs 2015/01/27 18:26:20 (permalink)
Welcome to the forum Mr Ward S.    If you can remember how to use your porta-studio you can use Sonar the same way,  at least while you're learning...

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Re: Some Basic Sonar Needs 2015/01/27 18:32:31 (permalink)
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Beepster, et al, as a deep lurker and hopeless noobie, I can confirm what Craig says, that I benefited greatly from your response to Mr. Lemon. My recording experiences were all on an old Tascam porta-studio cassette machine in the late '80s, and after 25 years of neglecting music and recording I suddenly caught the bug again. But man, this is like stepping from the puddle into the ocean. I read these forums with obsessive fascination and you cats are like my lifeline. I'm pretty sure I made the right choice with Sonar (something I can grow into) but a fellow like Mr. Lemon can still make my poor noob bones tremble. So yeah, think of me when you respond to the trolls. 




Right on, ward and no need to feel helpless or to lurk with this fine bunch. Just a few short years ago I could barely do even the most basic tasks in Sonar and now... well I'm still kind of a bumbler but just chatting with the guys and asking questions around here I manage to get pretty much anything I need to done. All you gotta do is ask.
 
However I'll turn you onto something I've find supremely useful in learning my way around Sonar and wish I had from the get go. In the Cake store you'll see some video packages by SWA on Sonar X2 and X3 as well as one on the included effects and another one on synths. They are extremely thorough and are like the ultimate guided tour of the program.
 
In fact give me a minute... I posted a thread/review with links to all the relevant ones about a week ago but it got buried super quick because of the new release.
 
BRB.
 
Edit:
 
Here it is....
 
http://forum.cakewalk.com/My-advice-for-learning-Sonar-and-not-worrying-about-forgetting-stuff-thanks-to-Karl-Rose-m3150604.aspx
 
There are plenty of other awesome resource material out there too and of course scour the CakeTV section of this site for all the Cake produced vids (which are free and very helpful) but I find the vids in that link to be a definitive guide to the most important aspects of the program. They go on sale pretty frequently too (at SIGNIFICANT discounts) so just keep your eye on them.
 
Cheers.
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Re: Some Basic Sonar Needs 2015/01/27 18:38:41 (permalink)
Sweet. Thanks a million.

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Re: Some Basic Sonar Needs 2015/01/27 19:47:17 (permalink)
I remember once using my DAW to play a video game. And just as soon as PACMAN got close to eat the 'Lemon' the computer would crash. My only option is to reboot!
 
Hate that when it happens.........
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Re: Some Basic Sonar Needs 2015/01/27 22:14:54 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby mudgel 2015/01/28 00:03:53
I was busy and just now returned to this thread but I wanted to post this after the 4th or 5th response.
Just because someone only has a few posts and has some questions or trepidation or even brash statements about Sonar does not in my book make them an automatic troll.
I have used Sonar since 7 and I agree with most of the OP.
With a new release there is going to be trolls and  I have seen a few (mostly the same guy...hi Dan). But even Dan said some things that I cannot disagree with.
There is also going to be some legit people that are either new to the forum or new to Sonar.
I can see a newbie becoming frustrated to the point of sounding troll-like.
 
BTW, I have gotten more white screens in Platinum than all other versions combined. I am not sure what is going on there. I have not had time to chase down the cause but I am not really doing anything unusual compared to X3. Audio is fine, same settings as in X3.
In particular, unfreezing AD2 tracks seems to cause the white screen most of the time. Not sure about other synths.
If I figure out what it is, I will start a new thread.
 

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Re: Some Basic Sonar Needs 2015/01/27 22:45:10 (permalink)
Generally when I get a white screen it's either reboot or coffee... coffee usually does the trick but sometimes not... However, most of the time it's my own dumb fault... having my Forte drivers routed to mp3/youtube playback instead of Sonar... which Sonar does NOT like... spontaneously doing LOTS of things in a row which I couldn't have imagined doing a couple years ago... can imagine my 6 cores going, "DUDE... WTF are you doing????"
 
Impatience generally results in a reboot or "OY! it's nearly morning, gotta go to work and yes.... I'm oblivious...." and I just shut er down.
 
Technologies... especially in an open system like windows, is vast and the interplays are endless... I expect crashes in the interplay of 50 trillion possible combinations of actions foisted onto a huge array of components an OPEN system allows... 
 
Bottom line?  Sonar is a miracle!  And, in my humble opinion, Lemon hasn't ever tried Sonar and is a douchebag...
 
NOTE TO "THE CRAIG":  CAN YOU DO A QUICK LOOKY AT THESE PEOPLE AND DETERMINE IF THEY ACTUALLY OWN SONAR??? WOULD BE VERY CURIOUS...
 
 
I AM amazed at the wonderful energies poured into a "lemon" ... ironic name, no?

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Re: Some Basic Sonar Needs 2015/01/27 23:02:33 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby Mesh 2015/01/28 11:09:12
There's a right way and a wrong way to word a technical problem on a forum, and I think most people would agree that the problem with the OP was its wording. There's a world of difference between "I'm having a problem with Sonar, every time it crashes I have to reboot" and "Sonar is a mess, it requires a reboot after every crash." The former describes a problem specific to the user, the latter insinuates that Sonar has some kind of fatal design flaw which affects everyone. Which obviously it doesn't otherwise this forum would be full of "why do I have to reboot when Sonar crashes" posts. 
 
jlemon2, if your motive is honest and genuine then why not provide us with more details about your setup - OS, interface, drivers etc. Because as it stands your post is nothing more than a rant as opposed to a request for help. People have come here with the most terrible problems which have subsequently been solved with the help of other users. You either want your investment to work or you don't - right now it seems like you have no interest in solving the problem and just came here to let off steam. 
 
 

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Re: Some Basic Sonar Needs 2015/01/27 23:15:28 (permalink)
The fact that he has not come back is questionable.
I do not think there is a way to tell if he owns Sonar.
You can join the forum w/o owning Sonar unless they changed that when they combined forum with store logins.

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