luizvitor89
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Some notice for the Platinum Lifetime holders?
With the very sad announcement about Cakewalk development will no longer be made.
Have any news for who is Platinum Lifetime holders?
Some compensation or something like that. (Cakewalk DLC's or 3rd party software partner)
Because I believed in Cakewalk, in Sonar. And I still believe!
I will continue to use as long as the operating system allows.
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tobiaslindahl
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Re: Some notice for the Platinum Lifetime holders?
2017/12/05 21:20:13
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There will be no compensation, it doesn'twork like that.
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Re: Some notice for the Platinum Lifetime holders?
2017/12/05 21:56:21
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tobiaslindahl it doesn'twork like that.
No, it works exactly this way =)
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Re: Some notice for the Platinum Lifetime holders?
2017/12/05 22:02:19
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SergeQ
tobiaslindahl it doesn'twork like that.
No, it works exactly this way =)
Exactly :)
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Re: Some notice for the Platinum Lifetime holders?
2017/12/05 23:06:28
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☄ Helpfulby joel77 2017/12/06 14:14:57
If we get a refund I want it all the way back to ProAudio4 for every version I paid for. If we're going to ask ridiculous questions I'm allowed to make even further ridiculous demands, roight?
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Re: Some notice for the Platinum Lifetime holders?
2017/12/05 23:16:57
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Don't be so harsh guys... I wouldn't mind a Compensation :P.
Its frustrating for al of us. For instance I still hope Cakewalk would live on in some way or another.
I have invested in Cakewalk. Just a user for 2 years. I followed all shorts of courses to Understand sonar and bought hardware that is capable of controling sonar wich are a few and a hassle to set up.
I feel violated... By Gibson... I also feel that they should compensate me...
The op was Just asking... Everybody had his own backstory.
Peace,
Hope to meet y'all in the otherwise side 😊
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Re: Some notice for the Platinum Lifetime holders?
2017/12/05 23:35:44
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☄ Helpfulby joel77 2017/12/06 14:16:29
Here we go again. There are at least 30 threads on this topic folks,, can we please move on and get over it. Myself I got more than my moneys worth out of Sonar and I aint finished yet.
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Re: Some notice for the Platinum Lifetime holders?
2017/12/05 23:41:32
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Well, an install\authorization type app\algorithm would be nice and has been mentioned by Noel and others. That would be a great compensation me thinks!
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Re: Some notice for the Platinum Lifetime holders?
2017/12/06 01:30:11
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bapu If we get a refund I want it all the way back to ProAudio4 for every version I paid for. Â If we're going to ask ridiculous questions I'm allowed to make even further ridiculous demands, roight?
I want a hover car
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Re: Some notice for the Platinum Lifetime holders?
2017/12/06 02:06:03
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Brando
bapu If we get a refund I want it all the way back to ProAudio4 for every version I paid for. If we're going to ask ridiculous questions I'm allowed to make even further ridiculous demands, roight?
I want a hover car
I'll take the Playboy Mansion :)
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Re: Some notice for the Platinum Lifetime holders?
2017/12/06 02:35:30
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☄ Helpfulby joel77 2017/12/06 14:19:01
You know, when my late wife was planning to divorce me ten years ago, I was flooded with well-meaning advice from friends, family, and people I barely knew. And if I followed some of the advice that was offered, I would have made the situation 10 times worse for myself. Because what was happening was people were giving me advice through their own perspective and experiences, most of which didn't apply to me.
The same thing is happening here, right now. EVERYONE'S situation is different. We have a range of Sonar users that are hobbyists all the way to professionals who use Sonar to make a living. I ran into a guy on a Facebook Cakewalk group who claimed that "anyone moving to a different DAW was never a true dedicated Cakewalk user", and that anyone "jumping ship" is a traitor. He continued to respond that only good studio engineers and producers would know how to fix any problems Sonar might encounter in the future.
That's an example of the most ludicrous, self-centered opinion I've read so far. The bottom line is, each individual Cakewalk user must decide for themselves what is the best course of action. It's okay to ask questions and give solicited advice about various options, but by NO means should one solution be applied to every single Sonar user. And certainly no one should stand in judgement of choices being made that differ than their own.
If you want to try and get a refund, then good luck to you. But trying to incite a lynch mob against Cakewalk or Gibson is a total waste of time. Especially during these times where there is so much injustice in the world, you have to pick and choose your fights very carefully. We're faced with an unexpected loss. A loss that is very emotional that brings up feelings of losing a loved one or best friend. A loss that could mean personal financial losses. And a loss that is something that is almost totally out of our control.
Do what you need to do. If writing a letter or sending an email to Gibson or Cakewalk, relaying your feelings or requests, then do that. But don't expect everyone to fall in line behind you just because YOU think it's what we should be doing. Every single person has a different situation that calls for different solutions. Once we realize that, it should eliminate a lot of the useless negativity that is flooding these forums and user groups.
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Re: Some notice for the Platinum Lifetime holders?
2017/12/06 03:04:54
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Very true . . . for the most part Leee A loss that is very emotional that brings up feelings of losing a loved one or best friend.
It's software, get a grip. It's a piece of software, anyone who develops such an emotional attachment to a piece of software has far greater issues than the end of the line for a piece of software they use, get some perspective please. It's the same with an emotional attachment to a company, a company is a company is a company, in the end, none of them could really give a rats ar$e about you, other than getting your money. Cakewalk isn't some supernatural entity that is holy and pure, without fault or guile, they are exactly the same as any other company ( generally speaking). It is this type of thinking that has got you where you are now, people have been making excuses for Cakewalk for years, letting things slide, not pushing the issues, patting them on the back and kissing their ar$e when they should have been doing the exact opposite if they wanted to show what the users really wanted. Lifetime updates, as good a value as that seemed at the time, it took away the voting power of all those ( mostly long-time users) people had, and did you notice all the newbie friendly stuff that started to be put forth? ( not that that was a bad idea, but not at the expense of long time users who may have wanted something else) If the long-time or advanced user who was on lifetime updates didn't like what was going on, the direction being taken, what could they do about it? they could no longer vote with their wallets, that option was taken away from them as soon as they took the life-time updates, convenient?
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Leee
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Re: Some notice for the Platinum Lifetime holders?
2017/12/06 06:10:34
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All I know is that I'm FAR from the only one experiencing sadness and a sense of loss. This is exactly what I was talking about. Do whatever you want, feel however you feel, but allow others to make their own choices and feel their own emotions. If I was the only one feeling this sense of loss, then maybe I'd go see a shrink, but from reading all the hundreds of posts here and on Facebook, it seems my feelings are shared by many other users. Not that YOUR feelings are wrong, it's just that some people are more passionate about things.
And you're right, it is after all just a a software program. I didn't cry or stay in bed for days after the announcement. I'm just dealing with it. I'm continuing to use Sonar while trying out other DAW software for the eventual switch. If someone asks me my opinion about software or how I feel about Sonar production being halted, I'll gladly give it. But I'm not going to say you have to do this or you should be feeling this way, etc.
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Re: Some notice for the Platinum Lifetime holders?
2017/12/06 07:48:24
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weird that such an incredible piece off software- decades in the making- is being killed off!
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Re: Some notice for the Platinum Lifetime holders?
2017/12/06 10:39:20
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Move on. Your girl left you, took all the furniture and the food out of the fridge while you were at work, She obviously could care less about you. Move on.
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Re: Some notice for the Platinum Lifetime holders?
2017/12/06 10:42:49
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Oh yeah, and you've got a few beautiful women (Studio One/Cubase etc) knocking on your door begging to go out with you. Get over her. Move on. she's gone.
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Re: Some notice for the Platinum Lifetime holders?
2017/12/06 13:33:17
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☄ Helpfulby joel77 2017/12/06 14:22:08
If you want to move on then go right ahead. But why even come back here to this forum ? To tell others to "Move on" ? Help them grieve ? I will keep using Sonar for now. That's the reason im still here on this forum. But if it stops working, I will switch to another DAW (and forum) in a second and never look back. But its surely not my place to tell others what to do.
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Re: Some notice for the Platinum Lifetime holders?
2017/12/06 14:13:43
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☄ Helpfulby joel77 2017/12/06 14:24:40
KingsMix Move on. Your girl left you, took all the furniture and the food out of the fridge while you were at work, She obviously could care less about you. Move on. Oh yeah, and you've got a few beautiful women (Studio One/Cubase etc) knocking on your door begging to go out with you. Get over her. Move on. she's gone.
So, while you're mourning the loss of someone, you'll eagerly jump to the next? You have commitment issues, I'd say. You need your grieving period - that is how the human psyche works. I do think you need to follow your own advice and move on. Just move on. Unless you aren't done mourning the loss of SONAR. Otherwise why are you still here? While we should not form quite the same emotions with software as we do with other humans, we do form an attachment. We learn the "tricks and tips" and the workflow processes. Just moving on isn't so simple as jumping to the next pretty software package. Software isn't standardized. All those tricks and tips and workflow patterns might not transfer well, if at all. The cool thing about software is that it keeps working even after it stops being a viable product. I'll stick with SONAR because it isn't worth this hobbyist's time to learn a new DAW that costs a significant chunk of change, even with "Cakewalk Transfer Discounts" and potentially requires buy all my third party software all over again in a flavor that works with the new DAW, such as the ProChannel tools and the locked to SONAR add ins. I'll stick with this forum, or one like it, as long as possible because this will be where the knowledge I will need will be when I try out some new tool in the SONAR tool box. I'm not headed for a new DAW, at least not yet, so I have a reason to stay. You however don't appear to have any reason at all to come back to the forums other than to troll those of us working with what we've paid for already. Taunting us to get over it. Telling us to move on. I am over it, already. I've made a rational decision, rather than emotional, to stay with SONAR as long as it will work. It's a financial and work styles decision, not a "I WANT MY SONAR" thing.... though I'll I'd admit I want my SONAR. I'd switch if I wasn't looking at multiple hundreds of dollars to get all the features all over again that I already have access to. I'd switch to a new DAW if learning all the things I know about SONAR for the new DAW were just a snap of the fingers. I have CuBase (twice actually), and Tracktion, and have used others in the past. They aren't SONAR, and will require more effort to learn than I'm willing to expend. What I am NOT over is people telling me to get over it.
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Re: Some notice for the Platinum Lifetime holders?
2017/12/06 14:48:27
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jeebuz, it's a bit of software, not a living thing! these analogies are getting out of hand!!
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luizvitor89
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Re: Some notice for the Platinum Lifetime holders?
2017/12/06 15:18:36
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Guys you give me wrong... I'm just asking...
I am not angry or regretful of my acquisition. I do not want a refund. How I say: "I will continue to use as long as the operating system allows."
I wanted information. Like the Overloud announciment: overloud.com/news/overloud-welcomes-cakewalk-customers
I want to know if you have some notice to Lifetime holders.
Answser is: No!?
Ok, alright.
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Re: Some notice for the Platinum Lifetime holders?
2017/12/06 15:28:35
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i don't think there's anything official beyond the cakewalk and gibson statements
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Re: Some notice for the Platinum Lifetime holders?
2017/12/06 15:28:58
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luizvitor89 Guys you give me wrong... I'm just asking...
I am not angry or regretful of my acquisition. I do not want a refund. How I say: "I will continue to use as long as the operating system allows."
I wanted information. Like the Overloud announciment: overloud.com/news/overloud-welcomes-cakewalk-customers
I want to know if you have some notice to Lifetime holders.
Answser is: No!?
Ok, alright.
I don't think anyone is angry about your question, it was a legitimate one. I think the best we can hope for is to contiue to use the software until it stops working for some reason. Also, to get activation codes from cake to be able to move to other/new computers but this is not a given even though stated we would get such codes. Other than that I think the offers available are those from others found in this thread for example http://forum.cakewalk.com/3rd-party-offers-made-to-Sonar-users-m3701893.aspx
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Re: Some notice for the Platinum Lifetime holders?
2017/12/06 15:57:01
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Leee You know, when my late wife was planning to divorce me ten years ago, I was flooded with well-meaning advice from friends, family, and people I barely knew. And if I followed some of the advice that was offered, I would have made the situation 10 times worse for myself. Because what was happening was people were giving me advice through their own perspective and experiences, most of which didn't apply to me.
The same thing is happening here, right now. EVERYONE'S situation is different. We have a range of Sonar users that are hobbyists all the way to professionals who use Sonar to make a living. I ran into a guy on a Facebook Cakewalk group who claimed that "anyone moving to a different DAW was never a true dedicated Cakewalk user", and that anyone "jumping ship" is a traitor. He continued to respond that only good studio engineers and producers would know how to fix any problems Sonar might encounter in the future.
That's an example of the most ludicrous, self-centered opinion I've read so far. The bottom line is, each individual Cakewalk user must decide for themselves what is the best course of action. It's okay to ask questions and give solicited advice about various options, but by NO means should one solution be applied to every single Sonar user. And certainly no one should stand in judgement of choices being made that differ than their own.
If you want to try and get a refund, then good luck to you. But trying to incite a lynch mob against Cakewalk or Gibson is a total waste of time. Especially during these times where there is so much injustice in the world, you have to pick and choose your fights very carefully. We're faced with an unexpected loss. A loss that is very emotional that brings up feelings of losing a loved one or best friend. A loss that could mean personal financial losses. And a loss that is something that is almost totally out of our control.
Do what you need to do. If writing a letter or sending an email to Gibson or Cakewalk, relaying your feelings or requests, then do that. But don't expect everyone to fall in line behind you just because YOU think it's what we should be doing. Every single person has a different situation that calls for different solutions. Once we realize that, it should eliminate a lot of the useless negativity that is flooding these forums and user groups.
True and by the same token, I am tired of the people just trashing Plat and getting down on others , like me, who are staying with Sonar. Works both ways, you showed one side only. But a good post.
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Re: Some notice for the Platinum Lifetime holders?
2017/12/06 19:47:11
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Matron Landslide It's software, get a grip. It's a piece of software, anyone who develops such an emotional attachment to a piece of software has far greater issues than the end of the line for a piece of software they use, get some perspective please.
Here's some perspective. I learned to use sequencers with hardware units. Then I bought a computer and bought a program called Cakewalk and learned to sequence in that. Although I've learned and used a few other platforms while working in friends studios over the years, Cakewalk and everything it developed into is what I've used for my own work since I've been using computers to make music. Yep its just software. But this particular software and its particular feature set and its particular work flow form what has become my native language when it comes to DAW's. And that native language is going away. Yeah sure I'll learn a new platform and I'll come to be just as productive in it as I was in Sonar. But I will never again have a native language when it comes to DAW's. For a very long time into the future I will have to transpose everything on the fly through the filter of 'I want to do X (freeze a track, insert blank measures, use an external reverb etc) so how do I do that in this????' And this will go on even after I've become an expert on the new platform. I'll know just how to do what I need to do and I'll be able to click right to it. But there will still that little glitch in my head that will say 'yeah but its not called freeze track in this, now its called <insert name> and its four steps instead of one.' Even when its a task that becomes one step instead of four, I will still do that math in my head every time because Sonar will always be my reference base. From what I've been told, you do get to a point with foreign languages where you begin to 'think' in that new language and no longer have to translate everything. But that will be a long ways off and I will never again have my native language to work in. So yeah its just software. But if being a little sad about all that means there's something wrong with me, then I guess I'll just have to find a way to live myself knowing I'm not as cool as everyone else who can just dump their platform and move one without any emotion.
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Re: Some notice for the Platinum Lifetime holders?
2017/12/06 20:52:47
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☄ Helpfulby chuckebaby 2017/12/06 21:01:32
Doesn't matter if it's a piece of software, or your house burned down and you didn't have insurance, or your dog got hit by a car, when you lose something that was yours it's going to hurt. Some people don't care about dogs and say it was just a dog. One can go as deep as they want with this, even to the point of saying, it was just a person. Only a person who is sensitive to other will be able to console them and even direct them, but if that sensitivity is absent, it will be an impossible connection for both parties involved, so read people, see where they're coming from, and see if you want to listen, or ignore. but to get them to see your point of view, and agree, you're going to need more than good luck with that.
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Re: Some notice for the Platinum Lifetime holders?
2017/12/07 00:08:24
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☄ Helpfulby luizvitor89 2017/12/07 11:28:30
I asked for a partial refound and got offered some ProChannel Tools as a form of compensation: This is what I wrote:
"I just read your anouncement about ceasing development of Cakewalk Sonar and I can't help but I feel ripped off. I bought the yearly subscription on 2/6/2016, which would have bought me updates until February 2017, but I bought lifetime subscriptions 6/9/2016 for the same price of an yearly subscription - just to find out now that I got only eight more months of subscription than I already paid for. How will you ensure I still can use my bought products in the future if I need to transfer them to a new PC? Is there going to be a refound for the missning 4 months of updates? " And this was their response: "My apologies for the delays and any headaches. Our activation, download and authorization services will remain up indefinitely so that you can continue download and installing SONAR on your future computers. I'm not able to refund purchases past 90 days however I can set you up with some ProChannel modules that you can find in your account now. They don't all installed with Command Center so some of the installers you will need to grab from our site. Thank you for all your support over the years and keep making music!" I would have prefered to be able to get back to the subscription model if that meant they would keep on developing the software, but it is what it is.
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Re: Some notice for the Platinum Lifetime holders?
2017/12/07 01:40:38
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luizvitor89 With the very sad announcement about Cakewalk development will no longer be made.
Have any news for who is Platinum Lifetime holders?
Some compensation or something like that. (Cakewalk DLC's or 3rd party software partner)
Because I believed in Cakewalk, in Sonar. And I still believe!
I will continue to use as long as the operating system allows.
Please read the information posted on the Cakewalk question and answers page regarding your questions: http://www.cakewalk.com/Support/Knowledge-Base/2016000087/Gibson-Cakewalk-Announcement-FAQ
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Re: Some notice for the Platinum Lifetime holders?
2017/12/07 16:49:38
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I'm hoping for some entity to step in and take this ship and pilot it the right way. A lot of ready to go and loyal users are waiting and hoping for that.
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Re: Some notice for the Platinum Lifetime holders?
2017/12/07 17:08:18
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frankjcc Doesn't matter if it's a piece of software, or your house burned down and you didn't have insurance, or your dog got hit by a car, when you lose something that was yours it's going to hurt. Some people don't care about dogs and say it was just a dog. One can go as deep as they want with this, even to the point of saying, it was just a person. Only a person who is sensitive to other will be able to console them and even direct them, but if that sensitivity is absent, it will be an impossible connection for both parties involved, so read people, see where they're coming from, and see if you want to listen, or ignore. but to get them to see your point of view, and agree, you're going to need more than good luck with that.Â
Ditto. PS I've spent more on our dogs than all the software I own, including complete MS Office for 20 yrs, many others, through the years. Heck, more than my first couple cars. Multiple thousands in 30 years. Money well spent though. 😊.
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Re: Some notice for the Platinum Lifetime holders?
2017/12/07 17:24:03
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stratman70
Leee You know, when my late wife was planning to divorce me ten years ago, I was flooded with well-meaning advice from friends, family, and people I barely knew. And if I followed some of the advice that was offered, I would have made the situation 10 times worse for myself. Because what was happening was people were giving me advice through their own perspective and experiences, most of which didn't apply to me.
The same thing is happening here, right now. EVERYONE'S situation is different. We have a range of Sonar users that are hobbyists all the way to professionals who use Sonar to make a living. I ran into a guy on a Facebook Cakewalk group who claimed that "anyone moving to a different DAW was never a true dedicated Cakewalk user", and that anyone "jumping ship" is a traitor. He continued to respond that only good studio engineers and producers would know how to fix any problems Sonar might encounter in the future.
That's an example of the most ludicrous, self-centered opinion I've read so far. The bottom line is, each individual Cakewalk user must decide for themselves what is the best course of action. It's okay to ask questions and give solicited advice about various options, but by NO means should one solution be applied to every single Sonar user. And certainly no one should stand in judgement of choices being made that differ than their own.
If you want to try and get a refund, then good luck to you. But trying to incite a lynch mob against Cakewalk or Gibson is a total waste of time. Especially during these times where there is so much injustice in the world, you have to pick and choose your fights very carefully. We're faced with an unexpected loss. A loss that is very emotional that brings up feelings of losing a loved one or best friend. A loss that could mean personal financial losses. And a loss that is something that is almost totally out of our control.
Do what you need to do. If writing a letter or sending an email to Gibson or Cakewalk, relaying your feelings or requests, then do that. But don't expect everyone to fall in line behind you just because YOU think it's what we should be doing. Every single person has a different situation that calls for different solutions. Once we realize that, it should eliminate a lot of the useless negativity that is flooding these forums and user groups.
True and by the same token, I am tired of the people just trashing Plat and getting down on others , like me, who are staying with Sonar. Works both ways, you showed one side only. But a good post.
stratman70
Leee You know, when my late wife was planning to divorce me ten years ago, I was flooded with well-meaning advice from friends, family, and people I barely knew. And if I followed some of the advice that was offered, I would have made the situation 10 times worse for myself. Because what was happening was people were giving me advice through their own perspective and experiences, most of which didn't apply to me.
The same thing is happening here, right now. EVERYONE'S situation is different. We have a range of Sonar users that are hobbyists all the way to professionals who use Sonar to make a living. I ran into a guy on a Facebook Cakewalk group who claimed that "anyone moving to a different DAW was never a true dedicated Cakewalk user", and that anyone "jumping ship" is a traitor. He continued to respond that only good studio engineers and producers would know how to fix any problems Sonar might encounter in the future.
That's an example of the most ludicrous, self-centered opinion I've read so far. The bottom line is, each individual Cakewalk user must decide for themselves what is the best course of action. It's okay to ask questions and give solicited advice about various options, but by NO means should one solution be applied to every single Sonar user. And certainly no one should stand in judgement of choices being made that differ than their own.
If you want to try and get a refund, then good luck to you. But trying to incite a lynch mob against Cakewalk or Gibson is a total waste of time. Especially during these times where there is so much injustice in the world, you have to pick and choose your fights very carefully. We're faced with an unexpected loss. A loss that is very emotional that brings up feelings of losing a loved one or best friend. A loss that could mean personal financial losses. And a loss that is something that is almost totally out of our control.
Do what you need to do. If writing a letter or sending an email to Gibson or Cakewalk, relaying your feelings or requests, then do that. But don't expect everyone to fall in line behind you just because YOU think it's what we should be doing. Every single person has a different situation that calls for different solutions. Once we realize that, it should eliminate a lot of the useless negativity that is flooding these forums and user groups.
True and by the same token, I am tired of the people just trashing Plat and getting down on others , like me, who are staying with Sonar. Works both ways, you showed one side only. But a good post.
So this is your comment 3 weeks ago Stratman70: Re: Cakewalk Announcement 3 weeks ago (permalink)☄ Helpfulanxiousmofo It would be nice if Cakewalk users boycotted Gibson from here on out, to give them some extra help easing into that grave they've so capably dug for their brand. STRATMAN70 SAYS : "I agree. Been here since CWPA 6-late 80's, early 90's I guess, who knows. "Original link to a this and few of your previous comments And now you have appointed yourself defender of what you see as people trashing Plat. When in reality no one was really trashing Plat., it was mostly commentary on the way that the cakewalk business handled (or didn't handle) this situation. You're entitled to your opinion, and so is everyone else<. Just try to lay off your "advice" on people not giving "advice". By the way, you have also been slinging around the word troll (to a few members), referring to people who have been around the forum for years and have contributed to the forum. Sincerely and respectfully as possible, Kingsmix
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