Paul G
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Sonar 2017.06 mouse pointer fix?
Hey early access-ers, did the mouse pointer problems get fixed? It's not in the release notes.
Thanks.
Paul
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Re: Sonar 2017.06 mouse pointer fix?
2017/06/25 13:07:24
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☄ Helpfulby Paul G 2017/06/25 13:19:03
I believe someone reported at the end of this thread that the mouse pointer issues were much improved. http://forum.cakewalk.com...er-issue-m3614006.aspxWhile I didn't experience the mouse pointer issue, I do see that the issue with a pen in the prv controller pane has been fixed.
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Re: Sonar 2017.06 mouse pointer fix?
2017/06/25 13:19:34
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I believe someone reported at the end of this thread that the mouse pointer issues were much improved. http://forum.cakewalk.com...er-issue-m3614006.aspx
While I didn't experience the mouse pointer issue, I do see that the issue with a pen in the prv controller pane has been fixed.
Thanks Bart. Partially fixed anyway.
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Re: Sonar 2017.06 mouse pointer fix?
2017/06/25 13:26:49
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I wasn't aware of the mouse pointer thing in 2017.05 until now so I can't check if it was happening on my system without rolling back - but I'm not seeing anything like it in 2017.06 - everything seems as it should.
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Re: Sonar 2017.06 mouse pointer fix?
2017/06/25 15:31:56
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Good Day,
I probably wont run 2017.06, until at least officially released, or some time later in month when its bugs are discovered, although I didn't think I read anything specific in 06 early release notes that said this issue/cause was found and corrected.
Will report in my original thread and here when Ive found out if it works for me.
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Re: Sonar 2017.06 mouse pointer fix?
2017/06/25 15:51:42
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I can say for sure that the issue is resolved
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Re: Sonar 2017.06 mouse pointer fix?
2017/06/25 23:50:21
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This issue is resolved on my machine...
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Re: Sonar 2017.06 mouse pointer fix?
2017/06/26 14:30:01
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☄ Helpfulby Paul G 2017/06/26 18:08:55
Paul G
Hey early access-ers, did the mouse pointer problems get fixed? It's not in the release notes.
Thanks.
Paul
Hi Paul, There were several fixes in this area due to changes in Touch support. Any issue with controls and the cursor that we know of should be fixed now in the latest update. Please tryout the SONAR 2017.06 EA update and let us know if you are still experiencing this issue. Thanks, - lance
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Re: Sonar 2017.06 mouse pointer fix?
2017/06/26 17:38:24
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Cursor issue here is fixed using early access, thanks.
UPDATE: spoke to soon actually. It's odd because the fix for the MSR button area is intact. But if I go over by the track number for example to select it, I lose the pointer still.
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Re: Sonar 2017.06 mouse pointer fix?
2017/06/26 18:08:42
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Lance Riley [Cakewalk]
Paul G
Hey early access-ers, did the mouse pointer problems get fixed? It's not in the release notes.
Thanks.
Paul
Hi Paul,
There were several fixes in this area due to changes in Touch support. Any issue with controls and the cursor that we know of should be fixed now in the latest update. Please tryout the SONAR 2017.06 EA update and let us know if you are still experiencing this issue.
Thanks,
- lance
Wow! The incomparable Mr Riley has answered my question. I am honored sir!  Thanks, I'll do that, although this will be my first time, (with the EA). Paul
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Re: Sonar 2017.06 mouse pointer fix?
2017/06/28 18:15:26
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I confirm only mute buttons etc work, but when the tracks are minimized you can't select a track with the number, only when it is expanded you can select it with the bottom pixel and drag-select more tracks.
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Re: Sonar 2017.06 mouse pointer fix?
2017/06/29 21:13:18
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Re: Sonar 2017.06 mouse pointer fix?
2017/06/29 23:04:14
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Not totally, take lanes buttons have to be clicked at the bottom
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Re: Sonar 2017.06 mouse pointer fix?
2017/06/30 01:25:18
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also can't really use the upper right hand button on midi clips for enter piano roll view, at least the pointer is wrong but it can be clicked
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Re: Sonar 2017.06 mouse pointer fix?
2017/06/30 10:21:12
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For me it´s been about the folderbuttons not working, the problem remains.
Doubleclicking them works as a workaround - odd IMO & somewhat annoying - I haven´t tried doubleclicking them before the latest official update (23.06.21), so I don´t know if this is new behaviour.
Just noticed: singleclick a (track folder) button does nothing at first, doubleclicking seems to activate it so if I click again a singleclick works as expected - but only as long as I don´t use another button.
Singleclicking any trackbutton works as expected (so far ....).
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Re: Sonar 2017.06 mouse pointer fix?
2017/06/30 11:57:47
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Yea, alignment seems fixed in track view but now cant highlight individual track, at track number double clicking selects all tracks, again deselects all tracks, have to go to console view to highlight an individual track. I guess its back to 2017.04  Cheers
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Re: Sonar 2017.06 mouse pointer fix?
2017/06/30 13:24:33
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The pointer issue does indeed still persist. It has changed however.
Where as before, the pointer would change to that double arrow resize cursor and absolutely nothing could be done.
Now, for example @JohnEgan, if you expand the track and try to click the track number to select it, it should work.
IMO though, this is still not ideal so for me it still needs addressing. So it's better, but not 100%.
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Re: Sonar 2017.06 mouse pointer fix?
2017/06/30 13:45:05
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I thought the mouse issue was a windows update issue ... some kb...saw it in a post a couple of months ago?
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Re: Sonar 2017.06 mouse pointer fix?
2017/06/30 16:24:59
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It does not seem logical that a windows update caused the mouse issue, if we are able to revert back to an earlier sonar release that works perfectly.
This release is more workable, and for me it's enough to keep working, I don't want to get too far behind with the helpful new features.
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Re: Sonar 2017.06 mouse pointer fix?
2017/06/30 17:14:55
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frankjcc
It does not seem logical that a windows update caused the mouse issue, if we are able to revert back to an earlier sonar release that works perfectly.
This release is more workable, and for me it's enough to keep working, I don't want to get too far behind with the helpful new features.
Id agree as all works as supposed with mouse in 2017.04 rollback for me with Win7 up to date (may be a Win10 issue, or Win7 touch functionality/capability issue, I dont have a touch screen yet). I might say mouse alignment was workable now, but dont find it too workable not being able to highlight an individual track from track view, to say, bounce to clip, copy, etc, I find it somewhat crippling, albeit I didn't have the time to investigate every possible work around. Perhaps its time to upgrade to Win10 and a touch screen, lol. Cheers
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Re: Sonar 2017.06 mouse pointer fix?
2017/06/30 17:36:31
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I haven't installed the latest but will wait if there's an issue not being able to select a track in track view. I do most of my work in track view.
The more I think about it that's a pretty major thing if one is unable to select a track. Will this be fixed soon?
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Re: Sonar 2017.06 mouse pointer fix?
2017/06/30 18:40:33
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About selecting a track, I found that you can drag select and it works nicely even if you let go of the mouse click and start another selection without even pressing ctrl you can drag select another section and repeat this and everthing stays selected. When you want to deselect everything just click somewhere in the track pane. As for selecting only one track, as mentioned somewhere you might have to increase track size and I think you still have to click the bottom of the number.
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Re: Sonar 2017.06 mouse pointer fix?
2017/06/30 18:45:35
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Need clarification on this. We would not have shipped with something fundamentally broken like that so it's not a general issue across all configurations. Track selection is working here as is making strips active, all from the Track View. You can make strips active by clicking the name control or the icon (if not a synth) or empty space on the track. 
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Re: Sonar 2017.06 mouse pointer fix?
2017/06/30 19:02:24
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Clicking the name does select the track as the active track(nice to know), but not the icon or the empty space and even clicking the number does the same thing, the number just does not turn orange without the workarounds, I think some people may not realize when they click the number to make it "light up" it is selecting the content of the track such as a waveform or midi clips. but just to make a track active so you can play a softsynth or something is not the same. Don't quote me because I don't remember how it used to work now. this is just my current observation of how it works.
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Re: Sonar 2017.06 mouse pointer fix?
2017/06/30 19:44:22
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One thing that could certainly use improvement for selecting is, when a clip is Copy-ied to the clipboard, it would be handy if Right-Clicking on a track or Take Lane where there isn't a clip should simply and automatically select that Track/Lane as the destination for the Paste. Then to determine whether the cursor or the NowTime dictates where the Paste-d clip appears on the selected Track/Lane. I can't count the number of times I've pasted a clip in a Track/Lane I thought was selected.
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Re: Sonar 2017.06 mouse pointer fix?
2017/07/01 18:49:02
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I'm still seeing some of the mouse pointer issues. I ended up rolling back to 2017.05 because Sonar was locking up on me. We'll see what next month brings.
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Re: Sonar 2017.06 mouse pointer fix?
2017/07/01 19:36:13
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Keith Albright [Cakewalk]
Need clarification on this. We would not have shipped with something fundamentally broken like that so it's not a general issue across all configurations.
Track selection is working here as is making strips active, all from the Track View.
You can make strips active by clicking the name control or the icon (if not a synth) or empty space on the track.
Keith does this video clear it up? https://www.dropbox.com/s...9mfw/Untitled.avi?dl=0 As you see, and as I mentioned before, with the tracks collapsed, they are not selectable by clicking the number area. When you open or expand the track then normal behavior resumes. Although you can see group selecting is possible dragging across several tracks even if they are collapsed. But yea, something is off here after the April update.
post edited by Taurean Mixing - 2017/07/02 14:24:26
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Re: Sonar 2017.06 mouse pointer fix?
2017/07/01 21:27:23
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Keith Albright [Cakewalk]
Need clarification on this. We would not have shipped with something fundamentally broken like that so it's not a general issue across all configurations.
Track selection is working here as is making strips active, all from the Track View.
You can make strips active by clicking the name control or the icon (if not a synth) or empty space on the track.
Keith does this video clear it up?
https://www.dropbox.com/s...9mfw/Untitled.avi?dl=0
cant seem to open this link Im getting an error: Error (4xx)
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Re: Sonar 2017.06 mouse pointer fix?
2017/07/02 07:31:27
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2017.06 // i see no fix too
it's not about pointer itself (so forget about mouse vendors/drivers), there must be a "control layer" (watching where your pointer is, where you click etc - something like a virtual map above the GUI) and now, for some reason, some objects of this layer are too bold and overlap other important objects.
May be the reason is newly presented touchscreen support, if yes this will be a lesson to Cakewalk: every OPTIONAL (touchscreen is OPTIONAL for most users) function must be separated from core (mouse/touchpad support is a core function for every PRO DAW) or switchable.
Anyway we need a fix and please before 2017.7 :)
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Re: Sonar 2017.06 mouse pointer fix?
2017/07/02 09:38:31
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2017.05 issues with mouse pointer are fixed for me!
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