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Re:Sonar 32, which OS? 2011/08/31 17:21:19 (permalink)
well, maybe not?  I guess I don't remember now.

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Re:Sonar 32, which OS? 2011/08/31 17:32:26 (permalink)
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yes, you can load the OEM with either/both 32bit and 64bit
You 100% sure on that? I can only load 64bit from my OEM Win7 DVD. You sure there aren't different versions maybe?


Same here.  64 bit only from my OEM (W7 Pro) DVD.

Tim you are hanging between the old and the new and nothing is going to suit.  If the 32 RME driver works under win 64 then fine.

Otherwise you will have to compromise either the extra memory on your new machine or get a card with 64 bit capable drivers, it is as simple as that.

Try a dual boot setup with something like the quad/octa capture for 64 bit use and keep an XP boot to work in your old way (but faster).

I'll venture you'll end up migrating toward x64 sooner rather than later but it will be painless.  There's no need for 2 drives to setup the dual boot on as you will only be booting from one or the other partitions and a 500Mb drive split in two will be plenty for that.

What was/is your main reason to upgrade the machine?
post edited by Jonbouy - 2011/08/31 17:40:33

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Re:Sonar 32, which OS? 2011/08/31 18:23:20 (permalink)
Hmmm - i have 32 bit and 64 bit X1 installed on my Window 7 pro 64 bit OS.

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Re:Sonar 32, which OS? 2011/08/31 18:26:41 (permalink)
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Hmmm - i have 32 bit and 64 bit X1 installed on my Window 7 pro 64 bit OS.

Lance


right, Lance, but they're talking about win7 32bit or win7 64bit - which - I think I was wrong; you have to buy 64bit or 32bit separately.  sorry my bad.

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Re:Sonar 32, which OS? 2011/08/31 18:29:19 (permalink)
sorry my bad.



No need to say. Your avatar says it for you:)

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Re:Sonar 32, which OS? 2011/08/31 18:41:40 (permalink)
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Hmmm - i have 32 bit and 64 bit X1 installed on my Window 7 pro 64 bit OS.

Lance


I have 32 bit and 64 bit Sonar installed on my W7 pro 64 bit OS also.

As well as Sonar 32 bit on my XP partition also.

That's 50% more Sonar than you. So there....

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Re:Sonar 32, which OS? 2011/08/31 21:31:38 (permalink)
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sorry my bad.



No need to say. Your avatar says it for you:)



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Re:Sonar 32, which OS? 2011/08/31 21:44:37 (permalink)
timidi: win7 32b.. you will be fine.. and your new system
should smoke ass..you gotta lotta millage outa you old system...
post edited by StarTekh - 2011/08/31 21:49:11
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Re:Sonar 32, which OS? 2011/08/31 21:56:38 (permalink)
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timidi: win7 32b.. you will be fine.. and your new system
should smoke ass..you gotta lotta millage outa you old system...


Good idea, then he can send me the reduntant 12Gb of ram.

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Re:Sonar 32, which OS? 2011/08/31 22:02:46 (permalink)
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... your new system should smoke ass ...
That wasn't very nice of you to say.

ROFL!


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Re:Sonar 32, which OS? 2011/08/31 22:05:51 (permalink)
Bub: I call it as i see it, how do you think i got places's in the bizz
my client list would gag you stat !!
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Re:Sonar 32, which OS? 2011/08/31 22:16:09 (permalink)
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Bub: I call it as i see it, how do you think i got places's in the bizz
my client list would gag you stat !!
Saying something smokes ass is a negative statement here in the US. I knew what you meant but I was kidding around with you. Should have used a smiley.




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Re:Sonar 32, which OS? 2011/08/31 22:18:55 (permalink)
There are significant advantages to a 64 bit OS even if you are running 32 bit apps:

Multiple concurrent 32 bit apps can each gain access to a full 4GB of RAM.

The Wow64 layer doesnt actually impose any overhead since it uses the hardware.
More here: http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa384219(v=VS.85).aspx

The system also benefits from the extra 64 bit registers available.

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Re:Sonar 32, which OS? 2011/08/31 22:24:14 (permalink)
You can use jBridge in 32 Bit SONAR. It makes it possible to load a plugin into it's own chunk of memory space even in SONAR 32 as long as you're using a 64 bit OS with more than 4 gigs of RAM. ie if you can get your 32 bit RME driver to run on Win 7 x64. jBridge will even allow you run a 64 bit plugin in a 32 bit host but still acess the extra memory of the OS.

I'm curious what RME card is that "old" that there is no 64 bit support for it.

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Re:Sonar 32, which OS? 2011/08/31 22:26:53 (permalink)
Bub: keep in mind were doing tech support in here, and to date
im still learning, so all the BS i see is very distracting and its not
just you. sir.
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Re:Sonar 32, which OS? 2011/09/01 00:51:45 (permalink)
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Bub: keep in mind were doing tech support in here, and to date
im still learning, so all the BS i see is very distracting and its not
just you. sir.
Well ... it would probably help if you understood what you were reading and saying.


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Re:Sonar 32, which OS? 2011/09/01 00:57:53 (permalink)
Bub: 2-0 read that !!
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Re:Sonar 32, which OS? 2011/09/01 07:53:32 (permalink)
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I'm curious what RME card is that "old" that there is no 64 bit support for it.

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Re:Sonar 32, which OS? 2011/09/01 08:27:34 (permalink)
For me, this issue comes down to 2 main points:
 
    1. Do your RME's 32bit drivers work reliably with a 64bit OS. If the answer is 'no', or 'I'm not sure', then running it in an unsupported fashion may cause you heartache if you encounter any issues, as RME  will (rightly) tell you that you're running an unsupported configuration.
 
    2. If you're willing to take the chance outlined in #1 because you feel your 32bit audio interface's drivers work properly in a 64 bit OS, then yes, going 64 bit has several advantages as others have outlined above.
 
That said, I just took a quick look at RME's site & it looks like the 9652 drivers are for 32 AND 64 bit OS.  If that's your interface, you shoudl be good to go with a 64 bit OS.  Apologies if I have the wrong RME device, but the info is here:
http://www.rme-audio.de/en_downloads.php?page=content/downloads/en_downloads_driver&subpage=content/downloads/en_downloads_driver_hdspe
 
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Re:Sonar 32, which OS? 2011/09/01 08:39:28 (permalink)
That said, I just took a quick look at RME's site & it looks like the 9652 drivers are for 32 AND 64 bit OS.  If that's your interface, you shoudl be good to go with a 64 bit OS.  Apologies if I have the wrong RME device, but the info is here: http://www.rme-audio.de/e...downloads_driver_hdspe  



That's not it Karma. The naming of RME cards IS very confusing.

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Re:Sonar 32, which OS? 2011/09/01 09:14:51 (permalink)
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timidi: win7 32b.. you will be fine.. and your new system
should smoke ass..you gotta lotta millage outa you old system...


Timidi,
StarTekh is right, jump on Win7x32; you'll never look back. My i3 desktop runs 8.5.3 flawlessly.
Haven't installed X1 on that computer, that's what the StudioCat is for...
I bought the Win 7 Pro retail disc and it has both 32 and 64 bit installs; not sure on the OEM.

Good Luck,
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Re:Sonar 32, which OS? 2011/09/01 18:17:12 (permalink)
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StarTekh


timidi: win7 32b.. you will be fine.. and your new system
should smoke ass..you gotta lotta millage outa you old system...


Timidi,
StarTekh is right, jump on Win7x32; you'll never look back. My i3 desktop runs 8.5.3 flawlessly.
Haven't installed X1 on that computer, that's what the StudioCat is for...
I bought the Win 7 Pro retail disc and it has both 32 and 64 bit installs; not sure on the OEM.

Good Luck,
Tom

Sounds Good. 
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Re:Sonar 32, which OS? 2011/09/01 22:35:02 (permalink)
Timidi: i dont know what you bought for a board, but if you require some support .. just ask, little hint ..install os update
chipset drivers from boards home page support then video. rest is
easy, you might need some minor bios tweeks
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Re:Sonar 32, which OS? 2011/09/02 06:55:02 (permalink)
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Timidi: i dont know what you bought for a board, but if you require some support .. just ask, little hint ..install os update
chipset drivers from boards home page support then video. rest is
easy, you might need some minor bios tweeks



Thanks Star. That's kind of you to offer.

I'll be in touch.

here's the board
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The rest of the build is in this thread somewhere.

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Re:Sonar 32, which OS? 2011/09/02 06:55:03 (permalink)
Duplicate

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Re:Sonar 32, which OS? 2011/09/02 08:17:33 (permalink)
timidi


StarTekh


Timidi: i dont know what you bought for a board, but if you require some support .. just ask, little hint ..install os update
chipset drivers from boards home page support then video. rest is
easy, you might need some minor bios tweeks



Thanks Star. That's kind of you to offer.

I'll be in touch.

here's the board
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131705


The rest of the build is in this thread somewhere.

That is one cool board!! Good price too!

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Re:Sonar 32, which OS? 2011/09/02 12:54:42 (permalink)
timidi: that asus is a reasonable board and should serve you well

il post what's hot for a current build

Gigabyte GA-Z68X-UD4-B3 Socket 1155 Intel Z68 Chipset Dual-Channel DDR3 1333/1066/800 MHz 2x PCI-Express GLAN 7.1-CH HD Audio 4x SATA 3.0Gb/s 6x SATA 6.0Gb/s 14xUSB2.0 4xUSB 3.0 ATX

note the 6 sata 6g... and intel chipset support... this board here-in-after kik's butt !!

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Re:Sonar 32, which OS? 2011/09/02 14:52:02 (permalink)
yea, I think I wanted a Gigabyte board. But after asking and searching forever, I gave up and basically got the Asus because Newegg had them paired so I figured they'd work together. Scientific huh..?

I don't see much difference besides the name.
Anyway, I've got all the pieces. So, as soon as I get done grouting my bathroom, I'm on it.

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Re:Sonar 32, which OS? 2011/09/02 17:01:22 (permalink)
Looks like you're going to have a really nice rig there Tim!!

You guys are making me board envy!! (I'm going to start saving up for new 64 bit rig and possibly tap your brain Startekh?)

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Re:Sonar 32, which OS? 2011/09/02 17:02:10 (permalink)
Dup!

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