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Sonar 8 Crashes When Ever I use The Sonitus - EQ



For some reason.. when ever I am working in Sonar 8 producer, it seems to be running fine, until I add the Fx - Sonitus - Equalizer in the fx pane. It says fatal error, and my program freezes and crashes.

Does anyone have any idea why this is happening? its driving me insane.. cause after it crashes, the program wont let itself be removed form my task manager, but won't let me reopen it either, so I end up hjaving to reboot just to be able to reopen it again.

Any help would be greatly appreciated..

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    RE: Sonar 8 Crashes When Ever I use The Sonitus - EQ 2009/02/21 19:00:40 (permalink)
    What happens if you try to use the built in track eq (which is also sonitus) instead of putting it in the FX bin?
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    RE: Sonar 8 Crashes When Ever I use The Sonitus - EQ 2009/02/21 19:45:14 (permalink)
    I've had this happen as well. Usually after a UAD plug in but not always. Sometimes it can be just another plug in. Insert during playback and things go south. Usually under a heavy loaded project with lots of other plug ins. When I check after the crash, bitbridge is usually the culprit.

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    RE: Sonar 8 Crashes When Ever I use The Sonitus - EQ 2009/02/21 19:59:42 (permalink)
    Hi,

    It would be helpful to know more about your OS, system, audio interface, MIDI interface, etc.


    As for having to reboot: Generally, the Sonar.exe process stays running after crashes because of a driver. Since the programmers either at Cakewalk (or maybe those who made the driver for one of your interfaces) have not heard of error timeouts and did not bother to include them in their software, Sonar and the hung driver cannot complete the normal program close after a crash, and so the result is a stuck process you cannot end that will run forever. Try turning off your MIDI interface or audio interface and see if the Sonar process closes.

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    RE: Sonar 8 Crashes When Ever I use The Sonitus - EQ 2009/02/21 20:12:57 (permalink)
    A couple of things ....

    First make sure you have all the updates for Sonar, your audio drivers, your video drivers, etc.

    You may just need a fresh install of Sonar. Something may have gotten corrupt.

    Also - you should run a memory test, regardless.


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    For some reason.. when ever I am working in Sonar 8 producer, it seems to be running fine, until I add the Fx - Sonitus - Equalizer in the fx pane. It says fatal error, and my program freezes and crashes.

    Does anyone have any idea why this is happening? its driving me insane.. cause after it crashes, the program wont let itself be removed form my task manager, but won't let me reopen it either, so I end up hjaving to reboot just to be able to reopen it again.

    Any help would be greatly appreciated..

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    RE: Sonar 8 Crashes When Ever I use The Sonitus - EQ 2009/02/21 20:21:06 (permalink)
    This also happen to me now and than; that is the raison why I constatly saved my project while I am working, for once the screen freezes, the only solution I have left is to rebboot the computer.

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    RE: Sonar 8 Crashes When Ever I use The Sonitus - EQ 2009/02/21 22:22:02 (permalink)
    Yes, I know for a fact this did not occur in Sonar 7.02 and may be a recent development in 8.02. When you drop the EQ into the effects bin, if there is already another plugin there, it locks up Sonar. It is repeatable as well. If I reboot Sonar, drop the EQ into the same track it locks everytime during playback. The work around is to stop playback, insert, the restart the playback.

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    RE: Sonar 8 Crashes When Ever I use The Sonitus - EQ 2009/02/21 22:35:02 (permalink)
    The Sonitus EQ is *built in* to Sonar Producer version. You shouldn't be dropping it in again.
    It's already there on every track.


    ORIGINAL: Middleman

    Yes, I know for a fact this did not occur in Sonar 7.02 and may be a recent development in 8.02. When you drop the EQ into the effects bin, if there is already another plugin there, it locks up Sonar. It is repeatable as well. If I reboot Sonar, drop the EQ into the same track it locks everytime during playback. The work around is to stop playback, insert, the restart the playback.


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    RE: Sonar 8 Crashes When Ever I use The Sonitus - EQ 2009/02/21 22:39:52 (permalink)
    It's faster sometimes and because it comes up with 6 nodes instead of 4 to just place an instance in the FX bin. Two EQs in a row is not unheard of by the way and this should work.

    Show me in the manual where it says not to do this by the way.

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    RE: Sonar 8 Crashes When Ever I use The Sonitus - EQ 2009/02/21 23:24:09 (permalink)
    The DLL may be corrupt.

    First, re-register it and see if that solves the problem. Go to the Run dialog (Start -> Run) and type in the following:

    REGSVR32 /U "c:\program files\cakewalk\shared plugins\sonitusfxEqualizer.dll"

    Click OK, then run the same command again but without the "/U" argument.

    Do not have SONAR up and running when you do this. After re-registering the file, start up SONAR and see if the problem is still there.

    If the problem persists, rename the SonitusFXEqualizer.dll file to something else (e.g. SonitusFXEqualizer.BAD) and re-install SONAR.


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    RE: Sonar 8 Crashes When Ever I use The Sonitus - EQ 2009/02/22 04:20:44 (permalink)
    Can't help with the reason you're crashing but a 2 step process to avoid a reboot

    1. Turn off/unplug your audio interface
    2. Go to windows task manager (control/alt/delete) > under processes find and highlight sonar(pro).exe and click END PROCESS at bottom

    reconnect your audio interface, wait a 30 sec or so and retry sonar should work.

    Much faster than a reboot.

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    RE: Sonar 8 Crashes When Ever I use The Sonitus - EQ 2009/02/22 06:44:27 (permalink)
    Wow you guys are quick.. lol I tried the registering argument, but havn't tried sonar let Ill reply back soon as I see if its helped.

    i was wondering though, a few of you guys said you can use the eq without inserting it into the fx bin? I tried doing that, but couldn't seem to locate how to go about doing it..

    me no chinese me no find hahaha..

    I really appreciate all your guys help.. helps take some of the mi-- out of mi-graine
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    RE: Sonar 8 Crashes When Ever I use The Sonitus - EQ 2009/02/22 06:46:40 (permalink)
    oh and my operatigin specs

    Windows Vista 64, 4 gigs ram (sound blaster xfi- ( notebook version) Im in kosovo.. lol.. its just convenient..

    Audio hard ware: E-MU 0404/USB ( which lemme say.. sucks..) lots of humming and what not..
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    RE: Sonar 8 Crashes When Ever I use The Sonitus - EQ 2009/02/22 07:15:10 (permalink)
    ...a few of you guys said you can use the eq without inserting it into the fx bin? I tried doing that, but couldn't seem to locate how to go about doing it..

    In the Track Inspector, click on the EQ Enable button (or alternatively right-click on the EQ Plot and select Enable), then double-click on the EQ Plot. If these items are not visible, you will need to go into the Display menu (at the bottom of the Track Inspector) and tick them.

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    RE: Sonar 8 Crashes When Ever I use The Sonitus - EQ 2009/02/22 07:21:57 (permalink)
    ...6 nodes instead of 4 to just place an instance in the FX bin...

    There are 6 nodes in both, i.e. no difference.

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    RE: Sonar 8 Crashes When Ever I use The Sonitus - EQ 2009/02/22 07:39:24 (permalink)
    Aww man you are awsome, I've been fiddling with this stupid dilly doodle whacker for like a month now, and didnt even know that was there.. It was disabled the entire time.. well out of view.. so that makes sence as to why it would crash, if there's 2 running..

    Man thiese forums rule.. haha.. appreciate it guys.

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    RE: Sonar 8 Crashes When Ever I use The Sonitus - EQ 2009/02/22 07:59:04 (permalink)
    Quote: "so that makes sence as to why it would crash, if there's 2 running.."

    Not really; I have more than one instance in an effects bin frequently, and have never had such a crash on any version of Cake-ware. So I still suspect that something is funky here. Did you try a reinstall?

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    RE: Sonar 8 Crashes When Ever I use The Sonitus - EQ 2009/02/27 21:12:38 (permalink)
    ok well i got more info now, not sure if it will help much, i tried reinstalling .. still does it... this is what i get.

    Fatal error has occuered

    module:
    C:/windows/winSxS/amd64_microsoft.vc80.crt_1fc8b3b9a1e18e3b_8.0.50727.1434_none_88de292b2fb06019\MSVCR80.dll exceptoin Code: C0000005

    \address:

    00000000073FDE250: 000000000000000000:0000000000000000000000

    as a result of this error SONAR is about ot exit abnormally. Should SONAR attempt to save a re covery copy of your owrk?

    : yes : : no:

    then crashes, amnd goes in **** mode and wont close... The eq is one of the most important tools in SONAR and I cant get the damn thing to reduce out requiences without it going ape **** on me.. if anyone could help id greatly appreciate it.

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    post edited by viperwav - 2009/02/27 21:18:33
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    RE: Sonar 8 Crashes When Ever I use The Sonitus - EQ 2009/02/27 21:25:35 (permalink)
    A 64bit Vista thing?
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    RE: Sonar 8 Crashes When Ever I use The Sonitus - EQ 2009/02/28 02:16:10 (permalink)
    You need to contact CW support, open a support ticket and tell them you have a crash dump. They will give you a link to upload the dump, which will allow them to tell you where the real problem is.

    The dump file should be in documents and settings\your_user_name\application data\cakewalk\sonar 8 producer edition\minidumps. If there are more than one, the filenames are the date and time of the crash, so you'll be able to determine which one is relevant.


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    RE: Sonar 8 - One more thing (exporting issue) 2009/02/28 08:04:42 (permalink)
    Well got another bug, and Im bout rdy to throw this computer into the lake... Completely mixed down all of the tracks, to the point Im ready to export it, every time i do.. it maybe saves a small 1.22kb blip of the entire song... which is utterly pointless..

    Cant figure out what the deal is.. but it wont mix down/compile the song.. just a lil hale second blip of nothing.. talk about frustrating.. never had this many complications with a damn daw before...
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    RE: Sonar 8 Crashes When Ever I use The Sonitus - EQ 2009/02/28 12:17:33 (permalink)

    ORIGINAL: viperwav

    ok well i got more info now, not sure if it will help much, i tried reinstalling .. still does it... this is what i get.

    Fatal error has occuered

    module:
    C:/windows/winSxS/amd64_microsoft.vc80.crt_1fc8b3b9a1e18e3b_8.0.50727.1434_none_88de292b2fb06019\MSVCR80.dll exceptoin Code: C0000005

    \address:

    00000000073FDE250: 000000000000000000:0000000000000000000000

    as a result of this error SONAR is about ot exit abnormally. Should SONAR attempt to save a re covery copy of your owrk?

    : yes : : no:

    then crashes, amnd goes in **** mode and wont close... The eq is one of the most important tools in SONAR and I cant get the damn thing to reduce out requiences without it going ape **** on me.. if anyone could help id greatly appreciate it.

    corey.



    I get the same stuff with S7PE, except it's a Sonitus Delay and Reverb
    I've been working on the same 4 minute song for almost a year now
    New machine fresh OS; i'm tired of this

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    RE: Sonar 8 Crashes When Ever I use The Sonitus - EQ 2009/02/28 14:22:26 (permalink)
    This is the DLL that is crashing: msvcr80.dll

    Description (courtesy google):
    --------------------------------------------------------------------
    msvcr80.dll description:

    msvcr80.dll is a process associated with Microsoft Visual Studio 2005 from Microsoft Corporation. It is the Microsoft C Runtime Library and is used by programs written with Microsoft Visual Studio 2005.

    --------------------------------------------------------------------

    Maybe consider reinstalling Windows? I know it's a pain, but a fresh windows install cures a lot of woes.

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    post edited by ed97643 - 2009/02/28 14:28:10

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    RE: Sonar 8 Crashes When Ever I use The Sonitus - EQ 2009/02/28 19:41:17 (permalink)
    I have a brand new lap top though shoudl be fine.. Im seriously starting to think either vista 674 or sonar just flat out blows, i tried fidlding with raptiure today.. crashed the same as the eq... tried using other plug ins.. kept causing the same type of stupid crashes... I mean.. you spend $500 for a program.. that dosnt even work.. wheres the logic in that...

    is it better to run sonar in windows xp professional..? cause Im seriously thinking about just putting that in this thing.. cause I have en entire cd thats pending a release date.. and I cant get anything done because the dangum program keeps crashing.. I mean seriously...

    is xp better fo sonar than vista? this crpa is getting rediculous..

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    RE: Sonar 8 Crashes When Ever I use The Sonitus - EQ 2009/03/01 10:12:56 (permalink)
    Really depends on the system. You'll find some people on here who use Vista and love it, and others who just can not get the same good performance out of vista (or have odd driver errors etc.) compared to XP. It seems to be mostly a matter of getting your OS, your drivers, and your configuration to "play nicely". XP might be worth a shot. I wouldn't blame Sonar at this point. (I use XP, BTW.)

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    RE: Sonar 8 Crashes When Ever I use The Sonitus - EQ 2009/03/01 10:27:30 (permalink)
    Nevermind.
    post edited by kelsoz - 2009/03/01 11:48:19

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    RE: Sonar 8 Crashes When Ever I use The Sonitus - EQ 2009/03/01 14:17:58 (permalink)

    ORIGINAL: ed97643

    This is the DLL that is crashing: msvcr80.dll

    Description (courtesy google):
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    msvcr80.dll description:

    msvcr80.dll is a process associated with Microsoft Visual Studio 2005 from Microsoft Corporation. It is the Microsoft C Runtime Library and is used by programs written with Microsoft Visual Studio 2005.

    --------------------------------------------------------------------

    Maybe consider reinstalling Windows? I know it's a pain, but a fresh windows install cures a lot of woes.

    Best,
    Ed


    I have to ask; if it's already there,
    why does it keep asking me to install MS runtime C++2005 everytime ?
    THATS whats causing MS to screw with you ( and me )
    Sonar doesn't see it on installation ? ( I certainly see it in the list of installed software)
    Then corrupts the registry entry and causes this crap, INMHOE

    (I own and use VS2008 Pro on my dev box)

    XP SP2 , for me, FWIW

    Why dont other apps have this noticeably 'funky' installation behavior ?



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    Re: RE: Sonar 8 Crashes When Ever I use The Sonitus - EQ 2009/08/18 11:41:30 (permalink)
    Hi all

    I've had this same problem where sonar crashes, usually giving me the "Do you want to try and save a recovery copy" message.  Then when I exit out, sonarpdr.exe is still running in the processes in task manager, which means it will not re-open.  Thats good to know that you can kill it by disconnecting your audio device, but the thing is, I'm using an E-MU 1212m, which is a PCI card.  I can turn off the Patchmix software, but that's really a separate program - it isn't the control panel for the card or anything.  Any thoughts?

    BTW, what cornieleous said makes sense to me - should we ask Cakewalk to put an error timeout in there?  I'm not a programmer, so I don't know the logistics of trying to do this ...

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    Re: RE: Sonar 8 Crashes When Ever I use The Sonitus - EQ 2010/02/15 07:38:11 (permalink)
    I apologize for resurrecting this old thread but did anyone find a fix for this problem?

    I use Vista x64, Sonar PE 6.2 x64, 8 GB RAM, Quad Core CPU, Presonus Firepod Audio Interface.
    Sonar randomly crashes when I insert the Sonitus Eq. It doesn't matter if I insert it into the fx bin or use the built in track Eq. Sometimes Sonar crash immediately when I insert the Eq and sometimes I can insert 3 or more Eq's and Sonar crash during playback.

    Edit: I should also mention that Sonar 6.2 PE is rock solid (except for the Sonitus Eq problem) on my Viste x64 PC. Running mostly Kontakt 3.5, Omnisphere, Stylus RMX and Ozone 3.
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    Re:Sonar 8 Crashes When Ever I use The Sonitus - EQ 2010/02/15 09:19:18 (permalink)
    I`m not sure if this is helpfull but I have experienced the same problem and easily solved it. My solution doesnt necceserally have to work in your case but here`s the deal. While having recorded a vocal track including several clips you will have to "bounce to clip" before using the fx options. If you dont you will load an eq for each clip and this will cause the program to go bananas and freeze ot at least cause a drop out. Bounce to clip first and then add fx :)

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    For some reason.. when ever I am working in Sonar 8 producer, it seems to be running fine, until I add the Fx - Sonitus - Equalizer in the fx pane. It says fatal error, and my program freezes and crashes.

    Does anyone have any idea why this is happening? its driving me insane.. cause after it crashes, the program wont let itself be removed form my task manager, but won't let me reopen it either, so I end up hjaving to reboot just to be able to reopen it again.

    Any help would be greatly appreciated..

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