Sonar 8 Wish List

* Add a Strength amount to the velocity dialog that works like the Strength field in the Quantize dialog, so as to even up velocities without making them all exactly the same

* True tabbed windows, like I thought Sonar 7 was going to have

ORIGINAL: jkoseattle

* Add a Strength amount to the velocity dialog that works like the Strength field in the Quantize dialog, so as to even up velocities without making them all exactly the same

cant you do that using the midi plugin?

Rob

ORIGINAL: Fleagle
a related idea would be if you could browse sonar tracks from other projects in the context of your running song -- tempo sync'd of course.

the overall paradigm is building songs from saved bits and ideas.

right on. i'll bet everyone has lots of sonar projects containing ideas and bits, but there is no easy way to audition content from other projects in the one you are working on. that would be wicked, can't think of any prog that has solved that.

Maybe this has already been mentioned....

I would love to see a "Marker Loop" feature that would let me create and select from a list of paired markers using already defined markers. Selecting a pair from the list would select that time range and use it to define loop points. So if you've got a marker called 'verse 1' and a marker called 'chorus 1' you could easily set up a loop between those two points, and not have to set it up again... and again... if you want to use it again looping between 'chorus 2' and 'bridge,' which would also be a in the Marker Loop list.

Having a toolbar with a dropdown like that would be really convenient. I'm surprised something like this doesn't exist in Sonar already.

Either that, or a Groove Matrix like in Project5. Mmm yeah.

1. One thing, that would be really usefull would be improved notation capability. (proper notation of triads starting on a rest, etc.) If You work on a sketch for a recording, it would be better to print the music for the players directly from Sonar, rather than using another application for that task.

2. Improved stability and bugfixes instead of lots of virtual gadgets. The soft synths and effects included are really great, and they cover all kinds of situations.

3. A good reference manual.

Ok, Batman, riddle me this: does anyone else toggle bypass effects bins (both tracks and busses) on and off for playback and recording, respectively?

In other words, I can't record with any effects on because of the delay in the monitoring, no matter how slight. No big deal, I select all tracks, then bypass effects bin.

BUT, for busses, you can't select all, so I have to go one by one, right clicking bypass effects bin in each bus. Same thing for track and bus sends and EQ, in both tracks and busses.

I've asked this before, but I don't think there is any other way, so I would LOVE to see something to "select all busses" and also some way to toggle all sends and EQs in tracks and busses to on/off and output/none.

Seems small, but over a long day of recording take after take, it's tedious!

Thanks!

1. Stretching of MIDI in realtime. i.e., exactly like the "Length..." function, but in realtime whilst dragging a group of notes such that the durations AND start times are moved. Like in FL Studio when you hold down SHIFT whilst dragging the end of a group of notes.

2. Fix the envelope bugs. (and occasional crashes when shifting and re-assigning orphaned envelopes)

3. Notation symbols that actual send MIDI commands like patch changes, keyswitches etc. (e.g., have "marcatto" send a MIDI keyswitch note or patch change to EWQLSO or Garritan Personal Orchestra) so that they don't have to be programmed manually in the Piano Roll.

Goal: Destroy ProTools. Why? Digidesign makes me sick. Leave them the homeland security phone-tapping market.

Step 1: Have an option to make the GUI 'streamlined' for advanced users. DEFINATELY smaller buttons, Smaller fonts, Smaller meters (a simple 1-3px wide line is good enough), smaller everything! I'd buy the upgrade if I get to see 32 tracks w/meters, their ins/outs, Mute/Solo/Rec, name, all fit on the left side and take up less than 10 percent of the screen.
Step2: I know this is hard, but keep working on the skippy/glitchy artifacts. Even one little tiny glitch per hour is enough to hear the talent say, "what was that? did I skip a beat?". Its no big deal if its a garage band. But when its someone in the Rock and Roll hall of fame, that's embarrassing. We need perfection or Sonar will never get the respect it deserves.

Step 3: In the envelope editing section, have an option to "add 3 nodes" or "add 4 nodes" and a keyboard shortcut to add nodes. Whenever one needs to cut a peak, you always need to add at least 3 nodes, and 4 nodes is often required, esp. for adjusting wider sections. If a track need 40 adjustments, your right-clicking hand gets exhausted. At minimum a keyboard shortcut would help... (I've got Sonar 6, maybe this was addressed in Sonar 7 but I haven't noticed it)

I'll try to think of more...
thanks

I'm surprised something like this doesn't exist in Sonar already.

You probably know this, but you can come pretty close using Markers View. You can click on one marker, which sets the selection From that to the next marker, or shift-click to select more than one if you want to loop a range. I have a key binding for Set Loop Points to Selection (which also turns on looping), so I can quickly loop whatever marker region I have selected.

-Susan

No doubt mentioned in this thread:

The ability to drag/copy FX from one track to another in TV. We already have this in Console View, but not in TV, AFAICT.

-Susan

ORIGINAL: Susan G

No doubt mentioned in this thread:

The ability to drag/copy FX from one track to another in TV. We already have this in Console View, but not in TV, AFAICT.

-Susan

Apologies in advance if I am wrong here Susan, but this is already possible in the track view. Ctrl then drag to copy FX from one FX bin to another in the TV. Or is that not what you meant???

Ctrl then drag to copy FX from one FX bin to another in the TV. Or is that not what you meant???

That is what I meant, and it's working now! I must've been dragging, then pressing Ctrl. That usually works for copying (Clips, etc), but in this case you apparently have to press Ctrl first. That's fine, though, and it works, so thanks very much!

-Susan

I know, the word "cubase" is indecent on this forum, but...



Just like in Cubase.

And a way to customize the options in the Show/Hide MIDI Events button in the upper left of the PRV so not everything is shown by default, and I can eliminate some of those options if I want to.

-Susan

ORIGINAL: Susan G

Ctrl then drag to copy FX from one FX bin to another in the TV. Or is that not what you meant???

That is what I meant, and it's working now! I must've been dragging, then pressing Ctrl. That usually works for copying (Clips, etc), but in this case you apparently have to press Ctrl first. That's fine, though, and it works, so thanks very much!

-Susan

Glad my post helped!

SCROLL WHEEL FUNCTIONALITY ON PLUG-INS! Nuendo has the feature and it is very cool!

Also when using plug-ins the are narrower in demension to the VST/windows menu bar on the top, please make it adjust to accomodate it, thus leaving he plug-in perfectly centered and not leaving a gaping blank space to the right of it (ex: the UAD-1 LA3A)...

ORIGINAL: Susan G

I'm surprised something like this doesn't exist in Sonar already.

You probably know this, but you can come pretty close using Markers View. You can click on one marker, which sets the selection From that to the next marker, or shift-click to select more than one if you want to loop a range. I have a key binding for Set Loop Points to Selection (which also turns on looping), so I can quickly loop whatever marker region I have selected.

-Susan

Hi, Susan,

Hey, thanks for that tip. I've never really thought about the markers view as being very useful, except for locating a certain marker. But this makes it pretty useful, indeed. Doh!

I just discovered, today, that clip fades can be changed on multiple clips at once by selecting the clips and moving one of the fadeer triangles. I'd been wising for that feature for a long time. It was here all along...... The Bakers really *did* think of just about everything.

Best regards,
Bill

ORIGINAL: Cromberger

I just discovered, today, that clip fades can be changed on multiple clips at once by selecting the clips and moving one of the fadeer triangles.

Yes, but don't forget to hold SHIFT while moving triangles.

1. One thing, that would be really usefull would be improved notation capability. (proper notation of triads starting on a rest, etc.) If You work on a sketch for a recording, it would be better to print the music for the players directly from Sonar, rather than using another application for that task.

I Would agree with that, Cakewalk had a pretty good program a while back called "Overture" Surely some of that code would still be lying around that could be put to use in Sonar 8? For some reason Cakewalk seem to be reluctant to upgrade the Notation, Bit like importing CD Audio tracks which took forever to implement.

Wow. I've always thought that the behavior that holding down the shift key prevents (when the clips are not aligned in parallel lanes) was a small bug. What a great tip. Thank you for posting that!

ORIGINAL: Vovchik

ORIGINAL: Cromberger

I just discovered, today, that clip fades can be changed on multiple clips at once by selecting the clips and moving one of the fadeer triangles.

Yes, but don't forget to hold SHIFT while moving triangles.

Yes! I find myself going up-down-up-down-up-down... seems like an odd place for that selection widget. Not very intuitive.

ORIGINAL: Vovchik

I know, the word "cubase" is indecent on this forum, but...



Just like in Cubase.

<< seems like an odd place for that selection widget. >>

A lot of things are in odd places. Why are clip and track envelopes buried 3 levels down on the context menu, and (as far as I can tell) are not among the items that can be moved when customizing the menus? I would LOVE to be able to move them to the top level under the right click. They don't seem to be an option in the key binding system either (unless I'm just not seeing it, but I swear I've looked many time over the years....)

Customization! Customization! There can never be too much customization!

It should also be possible to to select multiple clips and assign clip envs to all of that at once.

I don't do surround sound, but I was just using the Sonitus Surround effect for the first time as a L-R-L auto panner. It's great! LOL. It would be even nicer if it could sync up with the host the way the delays do. I had to use a delay to find out the path time for syncing the pan in the Surround. Curious how it doesn't have that feature. Seems like a natural.

There was a feature that somehow disappeared that I would like to see added back in. On the PRV view, in the Velocity lane, you used to be able to select notes by drawing a rectangle around velocity stems. This was very handy for certain things. For example, consider a hit hat pattern that has accents and other notes with different velocities. When first creating the Hi Hat pattern, it sounded great. But in the final mix the accents should be louder - or the softer notes should be louder or softer. It was real easy (and intuitive) to select groups of similar velocities by drawing a rectangle around certain velocity ranges. Currently, the only way to do this is to use interpolation - which is a pain. If I'm wrong and this feature still exist somehow - let me know.

This may already have been mentioned - Save the PRV Window settings for every MIDI track.

In the PRV view - everytime I open it up, it goes back to default settings. So if I open the Drums you can't read all the drum map names and you have to open up that part of the window again to read the names. Also, I can't see all the drum notes so I have to vertically scroll down. Things like that (resizing windows) are a bit of a pain and just wasting valuable time. If you could store all the window settings with each MIDI track and of course use those settings next time you open the track - would be great (very small amount of data). And OK yes what about if you open up multiple MIDI tracks at once? Simple - just choose the first MIDI track in the group (lowest track number) and use it's saved window settings.

I wish you could copy synth midi clips and not having problems with SONAR not copying the automation. bug#1
When an audio track has a very high clip, SONAR hangs. bug#2
Definitely we need a pattern manager for us electronic music producers.
I wish envelopes update themselves when editing one of many linked clips. bug?
I wish you could use multiple outputs and inputs per track, and route wherever you want in the track view.
A better export function, at least more versatile when choosing tracks, and specially sections.

Best

ORIGINAL: guitartrek

There was a feature that somehow disappeared that I would like to see added back in. On the PRV view, in the Velocity lane, you used to be able to select notes by drawing a rectangle around velocity stems. This was very handy for certain things. For example, consider a hit hat pattern that has accents and other notes with different velocities. When first creating the Hi Hat pattern, it sounded great. But in the final mix the accents should be louder - or the softer notes should be louder or softer. It was real easy (and intuitive) to select groups of similar velocities by drawing a rectangle around certain velocity ranges. Currently, the only way to do this is to use interpolation - which is a pain. If I'm wrong and this feature still exist somehow - let me know.

Thanks, guitartrek, I'm glad I'm not alone

http://forum.cakewalk.com/tm.asp?m=1211695&mpage=1&key=�

ORIGINAL: Vovchik

ORIGINAL: guitartrek

There was a feature that somehow disappeared that I would like to see added back in. On the PRV view, in the Velocity lane, you used to be able to select notes by drawing a rectangle around velocity stems. This was very handy for certain things. For example, consider a hit hat pattern that has accents and other notes with different velocities. When first creating the Hi Hat pattern, it sounded great. But in the final mix the accents should be louder - or the softer notes should be louder or softer. It was real easy (and intuitive) to select groups of similar velocities by drawing a rectangle around certain velocity ranges. Currently, the only way to do this is to use interpolation - which is a pain. If I'm wrong and this feature still exist somehow - let me know.

Thanks, guitartrek, I'm glad I'm not alone

http://forum.cakewalk.com/tm.asp?m=1211695&mpage=1&key=?

Thanks for the screen snapshot! Yeah, I've mentioned this issue a couple of times, but no one seemed to know it actually worked like this. OK - so its you and me so far!

This isn't a feature request but a more general request for greater consistency throughout the interface, so that common functionality is given a common implementation across different views, and also where conceptually similar functionality is implemented in a more consistent way. Especially between Track View and Console View, and also between the inline PRV and the full PR PRV.

I know that kind of stuff doesn't count the same as new features in a "What's New" list when upgrade time comes around. But neither does it require of CW the same kind of investment in time and brainpower as the careful -- and consistent -- implementation of meaningful new features. A lot of it, maybe most of it, is just simple things. But cumulatively the simple things count.

Yes is would be nicer to be more consistent for sure.

Here's kindof an example (I beleive) of what you are saying and one that I wanted to bring up here:

Let's say I want to quickly select and copy a clip multiple times.

Midi clip: Select the first clip by clicking on it. Click and drag to a new location. After the copy, the new (second) clip is automatically selected, and the first one is de-selected. If I want to copy again all I have to do is Click and drag that new clip to another new location. The new (third) clip is automatically selected and the second clip is de-selected. And so on.

Audio Clip: Select the first clip by clicking on it. Click and drag to a new location. After the copy, the new (second) clip is automatically selected, but the first one remains selected also. This screws me up because I'm used to the midi clip example, and I accidentaly click and drag the second clip to a new location, but the first clip is also selected and copied.

I wish they both worked the same way.

Another Wish List item.....

You know how when you're adjusting faders/knobs in track view and console view, when you hold the shift key, it lets you fine tune by producing fewer changes per amount of mouse movement? It would be really helpful to have the same kind of shift function when mouse-moving envelopes curves/jumps/lines on tracks, busses, and clips... all types of envelopes, anywhere they appear.

It's somehow incomplete to have that functionality on faders and knobs but not to have it on the envelopes that control the same parameters.

ORIGINAL: guitartrek

ORIGINAL: Vovchik

ORIGINAL: guitartrek

There was a feature that somehow disappeared that I would like to see added back in. On the PRV view, in the Velocity lane, you used to be able to select notes by drawing a rectangle around velocity stems. This was very handy for certain things. For example, consider a hit hat pattern that has accents and other notes with different velocities. When first creating the Hi Hat pattern, it sounded great. But in the final mix the accents should be louder - or the softer notes should be louder or softer. It was real easy (and intuitive) to select groups of similar velocities by drawing a rectangle around certain velocity ranges. Currently, the only way to do this is to use interpolation - which is a pain. If I'm wrong and this feature still exist somehow - let me know.

Thanks, guitartrek, I'm glad I'm not alone

http://forum.cakewalk.com/tm.asp?m=1211695&mpage=1&key=?

Thanks for the screen snapshot! Yeah, I've mentioned this issue a couple of times, but no one seemed to know it actually worked like this. OK - so its you and me so far!

And me. The selection tool works for CC values, so there's no reason that velocities shouldn't be lasoo selectable in the controller channel as well.

I think this was a genuine oversight when the MIDI drawing was updated, but it needs to come back.

And me too. :)

It's that time again?

I would add...

75fps (CD frames) added the time/snap options - so I don't have to re-edit tracks in another app after mastering in Sonar. I'm not asking for redbook burning from Sonar (although it would be very welcome) because I have other apps that can do that (the track order, gaps, CD text and burning part), but if I'm using Sonar for it's dither options, I don't want to edit the audio again.

Clean up what is and what is not a global or project option. Personally, I think audio formats should be a per project option, which leads to the next request.

When creating a new and blank project - flag what the audio format will be right there with a dialog that will let me set it.

As already mentioned by others - more powerful marker support - Markers to Regions, Marker Playlist. Export region/s....

Again already mentioned, more transport controls (with simple keymapping, like we already have for the current transport - space, W and R). Add Pause, Play_until_next_marker controls. Also how about Pre and post roll settings?

It would be nice if the mouse wheel twiddled whatever parameter or knob was currently under the pointer and nothing else!

here's an easy one: make the archive 'A' button on the track strips be there all the time. and actually turn it on and off when you click it! i've never understood why it's this way on folders but not on tracks.

Ah yes. The Missing Archive Track Button, one of my favorite pet peeves.

ORIGINAL: Notecrusher
i've never understood why it's this way on folders but not on tracks.

Probably for the same reason that when you press 'G' in Track View it will center the display at the Now Time (even with Scroll Lock engaged), but only when the upper Track portion of the display has the focus, and not when you're working in the bus pane, where you would have no less need for such a useful, basic function.

It's just another one of the many incomplete or inconsistent implementations found throughout Sonar's aging interface and legacy code base.

1) I want to be able to select/drag-copy *across* tracks in PRV! What happened to this? It was available way back in Sonar 4, and it's gone. I've posted threads, went to AES and even spoke to the cakewalk techies about it, even got Bob Damiano to say he'd look into it, and still not fix! What's going on guys? Make an orchestral composer's life a bit easier, please.. =(

I remember being able to do that in Sonar 4 (or was it also in 3?) but it sometimes seemed to happen by accident, and I couldn't always make it happen when I wanted to, so I was never sure if it was a feature that I didn't fully have a handle on, or a quirky bug. That never seems to happen anymore, now that you mention it.

- ability to set the tracks, buses, and mains screens independently. Have the tracks widened with the mains narrow at the same time, instead of one setting for all. And remember the way I set it, persistence so it comes back the same way next time I boot up and open Sonar.

- REMEMBER my settings. Remember how I have the the strips laid out in console. If I have the screen divided in half buses and mains, whenever I turn off the buses and then turn them back on it defaults to Sonar's layout, it doesn't remember the way I had it. Very annoying.

- REMEMBER where I put things. When I open a plugin interface, it always opens in the upper left corner of the screen. I drag it to the far right out of the way, tweak it and close it. I need to edit it again, I open it and it goes back to the far upper left. Why cant it remember where it was on the screen the last time I tweaked it? Tracktion did it, always remembered where I left the plugin on the screen last time I changed it, why not Sonar?

- I'd like to have each screen be an independent window. I have a soft mixer on the left monitor and the Sonar console on the right monitor. I'd like to be able to change faders in the console while I watch the trim meters in the soft mixer......but I cant because every time I click in the console to move a fader, the Sonar main screen comes back to the top and my soft mixer disappears.

- Ability to resize the floating transport control window. At least let me choose between this size and a larger size.

I would like to see the options that are currently available under the Envelope Tool drop down menu available on a per-track and per-bus basis.

And I would also like to see the 'G' Center Now Time command in track view also be available when the buss pane has the focus.

I don't know about anybody else, but when I'm mixing and arranging a project, I'm constantly burning CD's to play in my car stereo. Which means I export all the time. Why can't the export dialogue box 1) have global defaults and 2) remember things on a per project basis, like the name of the wave file I'm exporting for that project. I always have to click on the name. Heck, what about an export button. Forget the dialogue box. When I hit the button it just goes. Just trying to save time by automating mundane tasks. Maybe CAL would work, but I never learned how to program CAL.

I remember being able to do that in Sonar 4 (or was it also in 3?) but it sometimes seemed to happen by accident, and I couldn't always make it happen when I wanted to, so I was never sure if it was a feature that I didn't fully have a handle on, or a quirky bug. That never seems to happen anymore, now that you mention it.

Yeah, you just had to go to PRV and select the flute track say, and ctrl+drag a note from another track like "brass" without selecting the brass track itself. I could in other words borrow various note values or clusters of notes from other tracks for my flute track without having to manually change the note values between quater notes, 32nd notes, triplets, quintuplets. etc. This was invaluable to my orchestrations and made life easier as I could double flute canons with my string sections via a simple drag motion, double multiple snare drums on the fly, and a whole lot more.

I don't see what is so hard about simply putting a checkbox option for this feature for those who wish to use it so that the current setup (7.0) wouldn't get lost for those who worked without copying across tracks. I have to take unnecessary steps now as a result that wastes time for an orchestral composer like myself. I know I can use sibelius or finale, but the PRV is so much easier for me to compose on and the benefits far outweigh the alternatives.

I also think that this feature can make it easier for non-musicians to get their ideas out so that they can see that they too can compose music, especially for those who are not familiar to the staff view. This very possibility poses some profound philosophical questions about the mediums we use to communicate our artistic ideas, and whether or not non-musicians should capitalize from such tools and exploits even. Is cakewalk aware of this?

If I were a musician who trained to utterly hard to learn music for many years, only to see some young guy with little to no training write a symphonic piece with but 6 months worth of training, whilst it took me 5-10 years to struggle in front of a piece of paper to conceive of a chord, I'd probably be pissed and jealous. I happened to be that young guy ladies and gentlemen, but I want to share what I learned and discovered to make underprivileged youth feel special about themselves by giving them the tools to express themselves musically. I don't believe there is anything to be jealous about here. So consider this; Sonar can provide that tool, and they'd make it easier for me as a teacher of midi sequencing to illustrate that point if they'd consider my request. Please help a teacher out.

I would like "clean audio folder" to scan only the project you're working in.

Also, a new and improved MMNS button would be a big help today!!

Better yet, Sonar should have car stereo simulation ;-)

Better yet, Sonar should have car stereo simulation ;-)

Now THAT would be awesome!!

Now THAT would be awesome!!

How did you guess? CW's secret car sound test-room:

ORIGINAL: HotCoollMusicGirl

And I would also like to see the 'G' Center Now Time command in track view also be available when the buss pane has the focus.

Yeah... it's really so annoying that it makes you click outside of where you're working to get that to work. Has it always been like this? Why would they ever design it like that intentionally?

Oh... the little things.....

There's been too many posts for me to read right now, so this might have been mentioned somewhere already- but an Audio Pool similar to Cubase. PLEASE! I want to manage, rename, delete, etc my audio files all by myself. I can do it- honest!

ORIGINAL: Barking Dog

PLEASE! I want to manage, rename, delete, etc my audio files all by myself. I can do it- honest!

Yes! Yes! Yes! That's one of my favorite annoyances in Sonar, and it's all related to the tools it gives us -- and doesn't give us -- for project management.

The Audio Files tab on the Clip Properties dialog needs to be brought up to date. Currently it provides only a fraction of the information it could, virtually no functionality, and it doesn’t even do it well.

To see full file names -- which in Sonar are rarely short -- the chances are you'll need to resize the File Name column. The same goes for the path, although you have more direct control over that, and are more likely to know what it is. Close one clip's property window and open it for another one, and go through the same resize routine. And beyond that (and being able to regenerate the wave image) there's nothing else there (and hasn’t been, going back... how long exactly....?)

The audio Clip Properties dialog box should show, without a lot of needless extra mousing around:

Full file name
Full path
Date created/modified
Bit rate
Sample rate
Length in minutes:seconds, and measures:beats at current project tempo
Peak db value
Number of clips / tracks (specified) used in
etc etc etc


And it should let you:

Rename
Delete
Copy file (with copy's name provided by user)
Move
Audition
Replace in project
Copy file name and path to clipboard
Goto in Explorer
etc etc etc

I realize that letting you rename and otherwise manipulate project files raises issues. But most of those issues can be solved with a simple "Achtung Baby!" confirmation dialog that explains the consequences of the pending action AND that includes a "Don't show me this again" checkbox.

And -- all of this functionality should also be available on the Files-Project Files dialog.

Really. You know?

Professional, modern, artist-friendly project management is one of Sonar's most glaring missing features. I know that stuff isn't super sexy, but if done right it would be sexy enough.

I ain't too proud to beg: Pleeeeese do something about this?

When hovering over an envelope node, it shows you the node's level. It should also show you its time.

When right clicking on a node, the context menu should include options for copying its level and time to the clipboard.

There should be multiple clipboards.

Speaking of envelope nodes: I need the ability to select multiple nodes across multiple tracks and move them simultaneously.

I swear... I was JUST about to post the same thing! And across multiple busses too.

What's kind of interesting is, because clips can be moved as a group across tracks, if the Select Track Envelopes With Selected Clips option is on, you can sort of do it... but not quite.

If you have a volume envelope, and you right click it and turn off Automation Read Enable, then the track or bus stops reading the automation and its volume can be controlled manually. OK.

But after doing that, if you hover your mouse at the disabled envelope or one of its nodes, the popup indicates the current level of the track -- which you might have manually changed -- rather than the level of the envelope itself.

That makes it difficult to do comparisons between envelopes when one of them is enabled and one of them is not.

If you open the properties dialog for a disabled node, it shows you the correct level. But it would be more useful and more convenient if hovering the mouse let you see the actual level as defined by the envelope, even when the envelope is disabled.

Typical scenario: I have group of similar, but not identical tracks such as brass or string instruments. I create expression envelope (CC11) on one of them, then copy this envelope to the others. So, I need to edit all envelopes in sync. How?

Exactly. I had two guitar tracks that ended up needing the same automation. I was doing them in parallel and moving the corresponding nodes on each track. Twice as much work, twice as much room for error.

In this case, I was able to send them to a bus, and I copied the env from one of the tracks to the bus. But that might not always be possible.

It was when I was making sure I had copied the envelopes correctly and that everything was working as expected that I discovered what I posted about in #234 above: that hovering over a disabled envelope shows you the manual level of the assigned control, and not the level of the envelope itself.

There are unncecessary differences between how different objects can be manipulated: If you can -- and would want to -- move clips across tracks without also moving envelopes, then you should be able to move envelope nodes across tracks without moving clips. Clips... nodes... they're not the same thing... but on another level they're not all THAT different.

how about the option to have the synth 'friendly' name appear automatically in the track title once you add the synth in the track FX box???
if this is already in i haven't seen it. I spend lots of time editing these to keep everything neat and organized....

Cakewalk; please take note of what the majority of your customers are asking for. I analyzed 125 unique requests for Version 8 of Sonar. The majority of your customers are asking for improvements to existing functionality or usability. More people are asking for Usability than Functionality. Only 20% of your customers are asking for new functionality although there are some very good ideas.
Within that group the top requests are for:
• Audio/Midi Pool or drop box/idea hub
• Chord Track
• Play Order Track
• Tape Style monitoring
• Wave form editing tools

Top improvements to existing base functionality include:
• Treat Busses like any other tracks. (Bounce, arrange etc)
• Transport Improvements ( record on/off automation on/off while playing, pause rewind )
• Improved GUI ( better 3D, more control over objects to reduce clutter, resizable everything, change font size, dock able windows, recall layouts)
• Audio Snap/Quantize/timing improvements ( visual quantize, grab and stretch areas to align to timing map, better time map to visual peaks calculate tempos over a definable region)
• Notation improvement ( integrate with PRV, Sibelius, Finale level of manipulation of notes in terms of pitch time and auditions)
• Key binding improvements ( bubble help, macros, now time, searchable)
• Track view/manipulation ( smarter resizing, better control of object sizes/fonts, more view hide controls
• Better integration of events between windows ( click on event and it is highlighted in all possible views of that event)
• Online training ( videos, animations, audio examples, charts, flows etc)
• Better Asset management ( clean files, objects used, where used etc)
• Easy access FX Preset racks (group of FX used together)
There was one Bug called out that I personally know has existed since v-vocal was introduced. It is still there. (Invalid V-Vocal Data Detected or can’t find Vocal data). This typically occurs when there has been some slip editing or cloning tracks that have a v-vocal enabled.
I have sent this data to Cakewalks official Feature Request page.

How interesting! Thanks for doing that!

1. Track Grouping is a HUGE Feature Request for me. Anyone who has to edit/quantize lives drums knows how important this is. If I group tracks and cut one, they all should get cut. If I move one, they all should move.

2. Shift+Click and Ctrl+Click to select multiple mixer channels. If I want to be able to select ever channel in the mixer I should be able to shift+click or Ctrl+Click them. This should automatically create a "Quick Group" for the volume faders of each channel. This would be useful if I had a large project and wanted to bring all the channels down a couple of dbs to prevent clipping. See the BFD2 mixer for how this should work.

3. Alt+Click in the mixer view as an inverse-modifier. Another idea from the BFD2 mixer. If I have more than one channel selected, lets say bass and vocals, and I want to bring the bass down and the vocal up, I should simply be able to press and hold the Alt button while decreasing the bass volume. As the bass volume decreases, the vocal volume should increase.

4. Proper handling of mixed Mono/Stereo output VSTi's. If a VSTi uses both stereo AND mono ouputs (say BFD2), Sonar should automatically configure the outputs. Right now assigning the mono outs needs to be done manually.

5. Selectable "Drum Edit" PRV mode. When using BFD as a DXi I had a lovely drum edit PRV mode. Apparently I can't just see this view whenever I want. I want the option to (for use with BFD2).

6. Insert Synth dialog box remembers it's settings for each synth. Boy, do I hate having to tell Sonar how I want each synth loaded every time. The Insert Synth dialog should be specific to each plug-in. This way I can set it once and forget about it for each individual synth. Right now if I click "Don't Ask This Again" it treats it as a global control. That sucks.

7. Requested a lot, but a great one that's worth repeating IMO. Tracks as busses, busses as tracks.