Sonar Mix Engineer Needed

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RE: Sonar Mix Engineer Needed 2007/08/05 23:24:45 (permalink)
Jon503, Opal studios in Portland runs Sonar, He might be what you are looking for. I have know the owner for quite a while, He is very good at what he does.

Hope this will be of some interest.


Thanks Tom. I'll look into them as well.
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RE: Sonar Mix Engineer Needed 2007/08/05 23:25:08 (permalink)
Don't you love all this advice ? ;-) .. Heartwarming.

Do you think you might be able to post one of your mixes to the songs
forum? I don't know what to say until I hear one of them.

Also, what genre is the music? Different mixers have genre biases.

70 tracks.? .. hmm.
post edited by studio24 - 2007/08/05 23:33:54
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RE: Sonar Mix Engineer Needed 2007/08/06 00:26:20 (permalink)
Do you think you might be able to post one of your mixes to the songs
forum?

Also, what genre is the music? Different mixers have genre biases.


I understand what you're saying about engineers specializing in specific genres but at this stage I'm providing tracks only to individuals that are candidates. Generally speaking, the style of music is ambient / experimental, some orchestration, some synthesized and processed stuff.

I don't know what to say until I hear one of them.

Wow, you must have oodles of engineers in mind. Pray tell.
post edited by jon503 - 2007/08/06 00:34:21
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RE: Sonar Mix Engineer Needed 2007/08/06 00:58:45 (permalink)

ORIGINAL: jon503

I don't know what to say until I hear one of them.

Wow, you must have oodles of engineers in mind. Pray tell.


I know quite a few .. but the field narrows dramatically when budget considerations
are factored in.



I understand what you're saying about engineers specializing in specific genres but at this stage I'm providing tracks only to individuals that are candidates. Generally


70 tracks ... hmm .. what did LBJ say ... "I do not seek, nor would I accept ... " ;-)
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RE: Sonar Mix Engineer Needed 2007/08/06 02:47:47 (permalink)
I know quite a few .. but the field narrows dramatically when budget considerations
are factored in.

Budget is not a consideration. You know the genre. Fire away.

70 tracks ... hmm .. what did LBJ say ... "I do not seek, nor would I accept ... " ;-)

I have no idea what you're talking about. Why the "70 tracks ... hmm" thing? Come out and say it my good man.
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RE: Sonar Mix Engineer Needed 2007/08/06 05:32:34 (permalink)
My room isnt treated, and I use mackie HR824's. I stand back further to hear the bass better and adjust. Then,I listen in my car with a 12 inch kenwood woofer, and infinity high quality 6X9's etc. Also, I listen on my JVC boombaox. If it sounds good on all 3 of those comparing to famous tracks I dig, I know I nailed it.

Room treatment is nice, but good references in the real world are even better if ya ask me.

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RE: Sonar Mix Engineer Needed 2007/08/06 05:41:36 (permalink)

ORIGINAL: Lanceindastudio

My room isnt treated, and I use mackie HR824's. I stand back further to hear the bass better and adjust. Then,I listen in my car with a 12 inch kenwood woofer, and infinity high quality 6X9's etc. Also, I listen on my JVC boombaox. If it sounds good on all 3 of those comparing to famous tracks I dig, I know I nailed it.

Room treatment is nice, but good references in the real world are even better if ya ask me.



Wow, on every song ? You must go though tons of cds!
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RE: Sonar Mix Engineer Needed 2007/08/06 06:04:34 (permalink)
jon503 I pm'd you with some more info.

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RE: Sonar Mix Engineer Needed 2007/08/06 10:59:16 (permalink)

ORIGINAL: jon503

I know quite a few .. but the field narrows dramatically when budget considerations
are factored in.

Budget is not a consideration. You know the genre. Fire away.

70 tracks ... hmm .. what did LBJ say ... "I do not seek, nor would I accept ... " ;-)

I have no idea what you're talking about. Why the "70 tracks ... hmm" thing? Come out and say it my good man.


Honestly, I'd have to hear a track to make suggestions.

Are you really looking to have the project mixed or do you want your mixes critiqued? Any mixer
i know is going to rip everything you've done out and start from scratch. And with 70 tracks .. I
suspect they'll be reducing that track count substantially unless it's very well organized sectionally ..
or they'll send it back (i'm not kidding).

And you have the right idea about referencing the mixes. Having two or more pairs of monitors
is a great idea.. we use the ubiquitous NS10s as our "other" mix. As my mentor once said
"they're awfully nice" ...
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RE: Sonar Mix Engineer Needed 2007/08/06 12:40:51 (permalink)
I did a project recently in Portland at the Magic Closet...you might want to give Ian a call there and see if he can help. They run PT HD, but Ian used to run Sonar, so should be at the minimum Sonar aware.

I'd recommend you find someone within driving distance to you that can mix this. You seem to have clear ideas on how you want this to sound; if you can't be there during the mix to keep the process pointed at that goal, you're probably not going to like the results from an autonomous engineer.

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RE: Sonar Mix Engineer Needed 2007/08/06 13:09:11 (permalink)

ORIGINAL: newfuturevintage

I did a project recently in Portland at the Magic Closet...you might want to give Ian a call there and see if he can help. They run PT HD, but Ian used to run Sonar, so should be at the minimum Sonar aware.

I'd recommend you find someone within driving distance to you that can mix this. You seem to have clear ideas on how you want this to sound; if you can't be there during the mix to keep the process pointed at that goal, you're probably not going to like the results from an autonomous engineer.

Having at least one mix session with the client can be a great thing. While I hate taking an existing mix and trying to fix it, I have done it successfully so there's hope. Depending on the studio, they might even allow you to bring in your DAW.

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RE: Sonar Mix Engineer Needed 2007/08/06 15:08:33 (permalink)

Having at least one mix session with the client can be a great thing. While I hate taking an existing mix and trying to fix it, I have done it successfully so there's hope. Depending on the studio, they might even allow you to bring in your DAW.


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RE: Sonar Mix Engineer Needed 2007/08/06 15:34:49 (permalink)

ORIGINAL: Ognis


Wow, on every song ? You must go though tons of cds!

I pretty much do the same thing. Before I consider something finished, it's been heard on at least 4 different sets of monitors, car stereo, or boombox. The only time I need to burn a CD is for the car. Everything else has access to the network and I can just stream the audio file.

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RE: Sonar Mix Engineer Needed 2007/08/06 18:53:50 (permalink)
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RE: Sonar Mix Engineer Needed 2007/08/06 19:44:16 (permalink)
what kind of material is it?

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RE: Sonar Mix Engineer Needed 2007/08/07 08:09:11 (permalink)
Do you want one near you, or is an engineer in another city okay?

What transportable format do you have your music in now? Do you have complete backups of all the music? Do you have it backed up somewhere else besides the DAW? If you answer yes I know of quite a few mix engineers who can handle your tracks in Sonar.

Regarding the Tracks themselves:
Did you print your effects, or do you have a complete list of the Plugin's you have used?
Is there anything going on with the tracks that another studio should be concerned about?

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RE: Sonar Mix Engineer Needed 2007/08/07 12:19:23 (permalink)

ORIGINAL: Nate

Do you want one near you, or is an engineer in another city okay?

What transportable format do you have your music in now? Do you have complete backups of all the music? Do you have it backed up somewhere else besides the DAW? If you answer yes I know of quite a few mix engineers who can handle your tracks in Sonar.

Regarding the Tracks themselves:
Did you print your effects, or do you have a complete list of the Plugin's you have used?
Is there anything going on with the tracks that another studio should be concerned about?




Would you take this job remotely? ;-)
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RE: Sonar Mix Engineer Needed 2007/08/07 16:39:14 (permalink)
Would you remotely take this job?
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RE: Sonar Mix Engineer Needed 2007/08/07 17:03:08 (permalink)

Would you take this job remotely? ;-)


In a heartbeat. I've walked technically inept people through Nuendo on the phone.
Getting someone to put files on an FTP site is a no brainer. Even if they are fighting the idea cause they don't understand it.

Plus depending on the economics of the job, I would either fly in for a single session kick off, or pay one of many engineers I know in the area to visit to sus things out.

If the consideration here is gratis, there is not even the slightest chance of taking the job.
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RE: Sonar Mix Engineer Needed 2007/08/07 19:30:04 (permalink)

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Would you take this job remotely? ;-)


In a heartbeat. I've walked technically inept people through Nuendo on the phone.
Getting someone to put files on an FTP site is a no brainer. Even if they are fighting the idea cause they don't understand it.

Plus depending on the economics of the job, I would either fly in for a single session kick off, or pay one of many engineers I know in the area to visit to sus things out.

If the consideration here is gratis, there is not even the slightest chance of taking the job.


You're intrepid, I'll give you that. Anyway, I believe he's already found his mark.
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RE: Sonar Mix Engineer Needed 2007/08/07 20:21:19 (permalink)

ORIGINAL: Lanceindastudio
Room treatment is nice, but good references in the real world are even better if ya ask me.



OF course a good engineer can *get by* without proper room acoustics, but what's the point? Bragging rights? I have room treatments that make my room sound beautiful. It makes my life, and needless to say, my mixing much easier.

I also use real world playbacks...I have a iPod, a upgraded boombox, the usual assortment of nearfields, headphones, and when i'm really concerned I go out to the car and play it back for added confidence. Most times just going to the house, and playing it back on the media center system will show me the issues. But then again I know my playback systems and how they translate audio. If you don't know yours that well, it does crap all to go listen on them.

Car systems are the biggest issue...say If you had a Toyota Camry you are going to be burned by the ton of mids , or if you have a Honda Accord you'll get burned by the scoped EQ, but if you have a BMW 730i you might get a good idea.

So really if you room sounds great, and you have trust worthy monitors, and you have a decent set of ears to listen with, most mixes will turn out okay, and some might hit the stellar mark.
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RE: Sonar Mix Engineer Needed 2007/08/07 23:30:26 (permalink)
Hi Jon, i'm not sure if you realize but the trouble you're coming up against, is the same for everyone. That's what home mixing and mastering is all about. Here are a few things that help me; in your studio have 3 sets of speakers - near fields, decent sounding computer speakers and good headphones. Use the nearfields to do most of your work but check things out on the other speakers and adjust accordingly.

If your nearfields sound odd to you, too flat etc, as mine do to me, then tune them! Create a sonar file and import 3 fantastic pro mixes into it. EQ the master bus until you think your monitors sound great for all 3 songs, then save that setting as a preset and use it on the master bus of your own mixes. be careful of extremes. Hope this helps.......or continue to record your own tracks and pay someone to mix.
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RE: Sonar Mix Engineer Needed 2007/08/13 07:55:00 (permalink)
chiming in late didn't see your post!!!

as jim roseberry indicated, I wouldn't worry about what format a studio uses..its really reputation and accomplishments...

check out http://www.tjhelmerich.comfor a great engineer...he has done around 80 to 90 major albums/cd's....

I think he's in california but he does stuff via the internet....check him out and see if he is interested/rates, etc.......

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