Karyn
Craig,  How will your piezo amp sim cope with my Dark Tiger?

Try it and find out  Unfortunately my Dark Fire isn't here at the moment so I can't test. My FBX already has EQ in it to deal with the piezo sound, so it's not a good test. But I would suspect you'll find the amps helps.

That sounds pretty much impossible.  Digital waveforms are just digital, and plugins are simply software routines.  How could playback change?

John
I agree with Greg. I do believe in the placebo effect though.  However it is possible that in some plugin or other area CW did do something that has improved something. That is highly unlikely though. Its far more likely that if you hear a difference its because its a placebo difference, one due to it being new. 

Well, that's why I raised that possibility (placebo effect). But "impossible" ?  ...no, not impossible. After all, this was effectively an A/B test of one version against another, and who knows what changes, if any, have occurred between X1 and Platinum, such as the audio engine, and how it processes the audio and math. I'm sure those changes would be proprietary, and Cakewalk would be reluctant to discuss or disclose, but it does make me curious.


With all else being equal, it's hard to argue with the results of an A/B test.

Thanks for your response, Craig.
That's interesting about your hearing being more acute in the evening than earlier in the day. I'd never heard anything about that before now.
So, would you characterize it as things sounding 'better' in the evening, or 'more accurate' ?   ...or both ?  
 

Anderton

Also, your hearing changes over the course of a day. Your ears are more acute at night because the lack of natural light causes a lower degree of visual stimulus. So if you listened to an X1 project in the morning and an X3 project at night, the X3 one would likely sound better - because it actually would sound better.
 
We know much less about how the ear/brain combination works than we think...

I also recommend beer.. Everything sounds great after that (except Coldplay).

 'martinh' - let us know how this turns out, please.

I'm afraid my Platinum installation was less that flawless. 
 
First AD2 refused to download any new kits or kit pieces.  I'm stuck with the same three I had in X3 producer;
The console emulator and CA2 Leveling amp are both giving load errors,  and;
Any effect chain using the TH2 producer effect crashes with a message that "This effect is only available in Sonar X2 and above."
And that's just in the first 20 minutes of use.
 

GregGraves
 'martinh' - let us know how this turns out, please.

  I got a response from Support this morning regarding AD2 .  The suggested a VST re-scan, which I will try tonight, although I'm doubtful because the XLN installer doesn't show the new kits as being present, so I doubt it's a scan problem.  Nothing back from support on the other issues yet.  
 
 I wonder if it's a widows 8 issue caused by where they are placings some downloads ?   I know that Dimension will not register properly unless you run it in administrator mode.

Anderton
...the Gibson EQs name the actual guitars. I assume these will go to members at some point.

Bet you don't have one for my ancient J160E.

On further investigation, none of my pro channel modules are working in Platinum.  They are still working in X3e Producer.
 
Support asked me to send the minidump files, but it's not producing any.  As an alternative they asked for windows process manager dumps of each failure , but these are all in excess of 330Mb, and my Internet provider will not allow me to send them as e-mail attachments   Things appear to be at a standstill, but at least X3 Producer is still working, so no panic yet.

CakeAlexS

martinh
 but these are all in excess of 330Mb, and my Internet provider will not allow me to send them as e-mail attachments 

Try
 
www.wetransfer.com
 
Cheers..

Thanks Alex.  I'll give it a try, although support imply that they can't rout anything to the proper tech without me using the same message header they used , so I'm not sure if I can get them to Joey Adams, the guy I was working with by this route.

Ok -  I spent the weekend investigating what was going on, and found the following:
 
[1] The things that weren't working were Cakewalk 32-bit plugins (Breverb etc) and all pro channel modules
 
[2] Other 32 bit plugins were working
 
[3] My X3e installation was 32 bit, running on a 64 bit operating system
 
[4] The "command center" has installed the 64 bit version of Platinum without asking.
 
Evidently Platinum 64 will not run the 32 bit version of Cakewalk plugins via the bridge .  Now, this should not be a problem because the options under VST Settings to hide duplicate 32 bit plugins and to substitute 64 bit plugins for 32-bit ones were both  checked  But it wasn't working.   Although the platinum install has the 64 bit version of Breverb in its vst folder. the FX list was still showing the 32-bit version, and still attempting to load the 32-bit version on existing projectcts.
 
It was also attempting to load the 32 bit pro channel modules .  Often I would get an error that "this preset can only be used in sonar X2 and above."
 
THE FIX;
 
[1] Removed the X3e 32 bit VST directory from the scan list and re-scanned - all cakewalk plugins and pro channel modules then worked
 
[2] Replaced the X3e 32 bit VST directory in the scan list, but AFTER the 64 bit directory re-scanned again
 
[3] now it shows the 64 bit version of the Cakewlak plugins,  and my 32-bit non Cakewalk plugins.  Everything works
 
[4] Phew!

Install was quick and painless; I actually like the C3 method better.  Picked upright where I left off in the middle of a project started on X3e.  For the first time I left the previous install in place since it didn't seem to claim too much additional SSD space.  So far, after a couple days of constant use have found no probs and plays well with NI 10 Ult, Ozone 6 and various soft synths like Omnisphere, Trilian, Iris2, Absynth, etc. Melodyne Editor registration was not a problem (unlike last time),AD2 likewise.  This is really how it should be-it is such a pleasure to have all this creative power at my fingertips and not have to even think about the process. All totally transparent, immersive, unencumbered and fun.  Thanks!  My only gripe is I still don't get any newsletter, update email or anything to even indicate that this release existed.  I've linked my accounts, etc- In all the years I don't think I've ever received any thing from Cakewalk, not even a postcard;)

Seamless upgrade...my luv continues to grow...