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Re:Sonar X1 Review 2011/01/11 06:05:44 (permalink)
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Good review but this in the end puzzle me? Who cares if it work or not on XP32?



Maybe the large majority of users who are still using XP32?

Including me?

So you're saying, if I want to run X1, I should first go out and buy a brand new OS?
Absolutely! and a graphic card that can run it.
 
SONAR X1 minimum spec should be: VISTA x64 or Windows 7 x64. Intel Quadcore, AMD Quad, at least minimum 4GB RAM and NVIDIA 8 to 9 series or equal ATI or better.....
 
and complete drop the 32bit version of SONAR X1 and concentrate all time and programing on the x64bit only.
If you need to use x32bit DAW stay with SONAR 8.5.


Freddy! you're the most kick ass advocate of 64-bit that I know of. And that's a compliment, so you know. Can you talk Propellerhead to make ReWire 64-bit and perhaps force Ableton to make a 64-bit version of Live? I'd much appreciate it

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Re:Sonar X1 Review 2011/01/11 06:49:23 (permalink)
Yeah - and while he's at it, talk to FXpansion and get BFD2 into 64 bit land.

As of now, I'm stuck with XP32 as upgrading isn't an option.

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Re:Sonar X1 Review 2011/01/11 06:55:40 (permalink)
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Yeah - and while he's at it, talk to FXpansion and get BFD2 into 64 bit land.

As of now, I'm stuck with XP32 as upgrading isn't an option.


He he, I hope Freddy doesn't charge us money for this;) BFD2 should be 64-bit. Same goes for all big library plugs. Being able to use a greater amount of RAM sure is nice.

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Re:Sonar X1 Review 2011/01/11 11:55:26 (permalink)
@twiggy, he lit himself on fire one too many times and is no longer with us

@OS, Well I could go on and on but I won't

@OP, I'm sorry that your review turned out to be less about the review and more about a bunch of other things (mainly because of the premeditated derailment)

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Re:Sonar X1 Review 2011/01/11 12:21:09 (permalink)
Thanks for posting the review.
As someone had already said, the review echoes the Computer Music review in that it is saying to non-Sonar users:- "Hey! Sonar now looks a lot more like the DAW you're currently using, so come on over and join in!"  Hence the opening line of the review:
"A recurrent reproach about previous Sonar versions was its confusing interface."  Ehh????  I've never found it confusing.  I think it's a model of clarity.  I chose Sonar over other DAWS because it was less confusing.

All this reinforces my worry that Cakewalk made a strategic decision to take market share from other DAWs (nothing wrong with that) so had to re-engineer it to look more familiar to users of those DAWs whilst at the same time praying hard that us existing users would not be too put out and would 'come along' as they say.

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Re:Sonar X1 Review 2011/01/11 13:05:43 (permalink)
Skyline-UK

Ehh???? I've never found it confusing. I think it's a model of clarity. I chose Sonar over other DAWS because it was less confusing.


John, that's exactly something people have very different views upon.
What I note is that many veteran Sonar users found the old interface "a model of clarity"
I belong to those who didn't, when I looked at it from the perspective of a Cubase user.
BUT: I found immediate access to the new X1 interface. It has a basic kind of order which I prefer BY FAR over my first impressions of the old Sonar.

Now I'm not insisting that one of us has to be right, and that that should probably be me

But I find the same kind of basic perception from many non-veteran users, and in most reviews.
This shows something, from my view: that Cakewalk was spot on to change Sonar in a way that makes it much more attractive to many users and new parts of the market - not necessarily getting approval from their comnlete former user base.

And I personally am convinced that their future looks much brighter with X1, than it would have ever been with 8.5. or some kind of 9, especially with all the hard competition around. They can't survive in a niche with their old user base. Either they reach new users, or they would have a very hard time.

One of my sons, who has done a mixing course (German institute) and used Cubase for all the mixing tests he had to do to get his degree, will do the jump from Cubase 5 to Sonar X1 just like me. And to be sure: I told him about the issues and bugs still to be fixed. He still likes X1 over Cubase 5. Other people may have other preferences and tastes, but at least I see how people (not only my son) react to the new interface and the other kind of workflow.


post edited by jimknopf - 2011/01/11 13:10:04
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