All of us in the voiceover business have been asking for this for years.  But just the sound of crickets mostly, in return.

Yeah, I liked that feature back when I was a heavy Samplitude 2496 user (been a good while ago).
Doesn't seem like it would be that hard to implement...

My girl (one in the avatar) does a lot of VO work (very characteristic voice).
I listened to her (on local rock radio) when I was in my early 20s.
Now in my mid 40s, I'm dating her.  
Life is funny...   

Staff View

 
Last significant update was a while ago...
Early CPA days???  
 
Might be nice if someday there was a "plugin/expansion standard" that would permit a 3rd-party to develope an advanced Staff View... or other custom editors for that matter.  Of course, that would open a can of potential instability...

Jim ^^

To your point, I recall using SV intensively back when in ProAudio 6... yes, it has basically not changed much since. But wait, that was 15 years ago...

http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/1997_articles/aug97/cakewalk6.html

But wait, that was 15 years ago...

15 years has flown by...
No wonder my hair is full of gray!  

It would be really nice to see the Staff View get some love.

you guys,  just a warning.  I mentioned Staff View as a joke (although I'd like to see it improved)......


Prepare for an onslaught from the non-staffers

Jimbo 88


you guys,  just a warning.  I mentioned Staff View as a joke (although I'd like to see it improved)......


Prepare for an onslaught from the non-staffers

No worries - there is an entire thread dedicated to the lack of any mention of SV improvement in X2.  However, we have not seen the 2nd teaser yet... <crosses fingers>
 
Among staffers, there are feelings ranging from disappointment to anger, but this is not intended for consumption by non-staffers - I don't think they have anything to fear.
 
 

What happened with X1 was expected as far as I am
concerned. When you touch the Core engine you are
asking for trouble and in this day in age (I'm older, thus
from the old sw development cycle) which has an Alpha,
Beta, Ship cycle the user robustness testing is actually done
by the customer.

in my opinion in this "if it's not downloadable for free I don't
want it" modern mentality it's ok but for us all who are whiling
to pay it bugs me a lot. This is not a CW specific problem. It's
the entire software industry that is screwed up.

It took 3 releases (7,8,8.5) to get it right. This is why, and for
the reason mentionned above, I am likely going to dkip X2

Obviously this is a persnnal point of view but I have worked 20
years in software developement cycle and I have seen the increase
of side
effects of shorter developement cycle

Yes, I think the updrade will speak volumes for sonar. I am anticipating the new features of X2. hope that it will be a step in the right direction for many years to come.

LANEY


Well I guess I will wait for the update. Was looking at R-mix, I can wait.
I hear some really bad reviews on the r-mix stuff.   Which is sad. 

I spent a fair amount of time with R-Mix, and wrote a review of it for Harmony Central. There are five audio examples that are pretty real-world.
 
There are two main issues. The first is that its effectiveness depends on the program material. If sounds overlap in terms of frequency and stereo position, you can't modify one without modifying the other, which may or may not work. On the other hand isolated sounds work really well. You can do things like take kick out of a loop, or move a hi-hat from panned left to panned right, very effectively.
 
My biggest surprise, which is one of the audio examples, involved two vocalists - one panned to center, the other slightly off center. I was able to add reverd to only the off-center background vocals, which I didn't expect.
 
The other issue is you need to get good at it. It takes a while to get used to thinking of music as a three-axis display. I'd logged a lot of time with Audition's spectral view and more recently izotope Iris, so it wasn't unfamiliar to me - I'd already scaled most of the learning curve, but there is a learning curve.
 
For any kind of dub music, though, it's downright magical and it has some serious remix possibilities. Its true calling might be processing tracks, not program material.
 
I emailed Roland after I'd played with it for a while and said "Hey, you should really include this in Sonar!" They were probably already ahead of me on that one.

Riddle me this, I own X1 Expanded and all PCM's already. If I upgrade to X1 Production Suite for $100 now, then I get X2 for free when it's released right? All I'll really gain is Z3TA+2 but I'm locked in for the upgrade. Am I missing something or is this a no-brainer? 

I'm running X1d expanded just fine,and I had kind of hoped they would keep the "X1" moniker,as a lasting identity,as everything like the books[X1 Power] videos[G3 X1 Explained,X1 Tips n Tricks,Craig Andertons X1 Advanced,Next Level,and CW's Mixing X1]will all seem a tad redundent,but in name only I guess?

Anyway,I think I'll wait,till the immediate adopters report in.......but I bet I cant![
Cheeers
Bob

I think I am going to wait for the Gerry Anderson  improved staff view version....
Fireball XL5
That's when things really take off.



Garry

Best to leave all versions installed. Handy if you just need to touch up a mix done in older versions with older and 32 bit plugins etc. If you want to do a complete remix, import the project into the later version. It won't be backward compatible.