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Sonar for mac

Hi everyone,
 
i was wondering why sonar doesn't have any version that works in mac.  Most mac users use logic and protools. Both programs are good but not good as sonar. I know bunch or people who would use sonar but they have mac system so they download parallel desktop which cost more than sonar, just to make it work. also people like universities for example R.I.T is using logic because all of their computers are mac system based. Yet if sonar could work in mac. most mac users will perches it for sure.
 
 
 
 
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Re: Sonar for mac 2015/01/16 02:03:57 (permalink)
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Sonar at its root is deeply tied into the windows system, and they have often stated that a mac version would mean re-writing the entire program almost from scratch. Very unlikely. Which I'm very happy about. They are not a big company and I prefer that they concentrate their efforts on only one platform.
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Make a mac version 2015/02/08 23:48:32 (permalink)
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Yes I know people are going to get pissed at me saying this,I only recently got a mac,as a wedding gift from my wife,we got married in november. Before that I always used a pc,I don't want to debate which is better,frankly as long as a computer is fast and runs sonar efficiently then I say who cares if it is  PC or a mac.
 
And I get that the coding thing would be a nightmare,but I feel like sonar is always left off "top 10/20/whatever DAWS" and that I cannot understand at all.I would say it is one of the best if not the best.But my pc is slow,slow loading,slow with lots of plugins,slow loading projects and my mac is much much faster. Bootcamp has been such a pain I have given up on that,plus I dont like the idea of having to boot into it.I bought parallel desktop and while it runs,it is also a huge pain in my bumper,it also is not as fast as programs running on the mac.
 
Most DAWs have pc and mac versions,even fl studio is giving it a go,so maybe it will be a pain in the code writers bumper,and maybe it will cost a bunch of money,but I would think it would add more users and give sonar more "credibility"whether that is right or not.
I am sure many disagree or are tired of hearing this,but sonar is my favorite,and I own and have tried using many others
protools-not intuitive,not that great in my opinion
reason-kind of fun with the racks,and addition of RE is cool,but the tools and instruments are mostly all geared to dance,hip-hop,ect(nothing wring with those,just saying)
ableton-I use this some,but same problem as reason and the channel strips/mixer are really no fun to use
flstudio-same as reason,ableton
logic-meh
I just find sonar to be the most intuitive and fun to use,although there are somethings that could be added(besides a mac version) it is still the best in my opinion.
So I cant just let it go,not selling the mac,using the pc is not helpful for creativity due to slowness.So please cakewalk make a mac version,make it a long term goal,like a few years,but please,please make it.
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Re: Make a mac version 2015/02/09 07:14:00 (permalink)
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I agree, even though I have no interest in Apple computers. I think that move would make Sonar more competitive in the recording industry.

But, I recognize it would be a big expense.

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Re: Make a mac version 2015/02/09 12:13:37 (permalink)
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How does being on a PC slow down creativity?
 
I hope they don't go this direction because it will slow down the development and implementation of features and bug fixes due to having even more hardware and software configurations to QC.  And that's after they actually launch it.  While developing it, I expect most other development would be severely curtailed.

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Re: Make a mac version 2015/02/09 16:38:59 (permalink)
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I wasn't saying working on a pc slows down creativity,I am just saying that MY pc is slow and that interferes with my creativity by frustrating me.Nothing against PCs
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Re: Make a mac version 2015/02/09 17:09:28 (permalink)
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This topic has come up before, a few times, and the CW folks made it pretty clear there are no plans for MAC version of SONAR.  It'd be a total rewrite from the ground up and with a limited scope of business to be had with Logic, PT, DP and all the rest already taking up long-term residence.  
 
Besides, with the way things are rolling right now... well, actually since X3 was released, I personally would not want to see them changing direction - things are starting to get really good...
 

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Re: Make a mac version 2015/02/10 19:40:22 (permalink)
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I wasn't saying working on a pc slows down creativity,I am just saying that MY pc is slow and that interferes with my creativity by frustrating me.Nothing against PCs




May I throw in a feature request your way... Buy a new PC :)

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Re: Make a mac version 2015/02/11 12:32:50 (permalink)
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Install Windows native on the Apple computer, so you'll have the good Apple hardware combined with a sonar friendly os.
 
 

 
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Re: Make a mac version 2015/02/13 20:51:07 (permalink)
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Buy a new PC,good one.
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Re: Make a mac version 2015/02/17 15:32:08 (permalink)
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This topic has come up before, a few times, and the CW folks made it pretty clear there are no plans for MAC version of SONAR.  It'd be a total rewrite from the ground up and with a limited scope of business to be had with Logic, PT, DP and all the rest already taking up long-term residence.  
 
Besides, with the way things are rolling right now... well, actually since X3 was released, I personally would not want to see them changing direction - things are starting to get really good...
 


To me this is not a pc vs mac thing,I honestly am tired of that.The computer is a tool,I received the mac as a gift,and I cannot return it.It has more ram and is faster than my older PC.Cannot buy a new PC right now.Thats it.
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Re: Make a mac version 2015/02/17 15:33:38 (permalink)
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Install Windows native on the Apple computer, so you'll have the good Apple hardware combined with a sonar friendly os.
 
 


Cant get bootcamp to work,bought parallel desktop and the issues of having to install NI Komplete 10 ultimate twice and trying to figure out how to use samples on sonar in the VM and the samples on the mac side have left me frustrated right now.
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Re: Make a mac version 2015/02/17 15:50:51 (permalink)
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You might try posting your issue in the main sonar forum (getting Sonar to work on a mac using parallel desktop).  Someone has probably solved this one for you already and can lend assistance.

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Re: Make a mac version 2015/03/18 00:00:30 (permalink)
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A Mac version would no doubt require the addition of at least 10 new employees to adapt code, oversee compilation, test, and support. That is a least a half million dollars a year. And would require a completely different forum site for FREE support. And so on.
 
I do hope CW grows to this size. It would make Sonar truly the best DAW on earth. Fur Shur, after it fixes a big bunch of other stuff, and adds another bunch of stuff.
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Re: Make a mac version 2015/03/28 18:51:26 (permalink)
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A Mac version would no doubt require the addition of at least 10 new employees to adapt code, oversee compilation, test, and support. That is a least a half million dollars a year. And would require a completely different forum site for FREE support. And so on.

I do hope CW grows to this size. It would make Sonar truly the best DAW on earth. Fur Shur, after it fixes a big bunch of other stuff, and adds another bunch of stuff.


I appreciate that,but then 10 more people have jobs,people can use it native on mac,and use it on mac and sonar will have more credibility,they just will.I am not dissing sonar,nor windows so please do not be argumentative,this is for everyone,I am tired of arguments)
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Re: Make a mac version 2015/03/28 20:20:39 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby dubdisciple 2015/04/01 09:47:36
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As much as I'd like to see it for personal reasons, I don't think it'd be a wise decision. Considering that this is a niche market and that it's already very crowded, it wouldn't make much sense financially.
 
Every Mac comes with a DAW software (that's actually not the toy some people assume it is), and you can get Logic for $225. How do you compete with such a powerhouse at such a bargain price?
 
Big studio run Pro Tools no matter what. They won't switch to Sonar or anything else any time soon, so there's no point in seeking "credibility" there. Hollywood composers and the likes, all those folks with more or less fame attached to their name usually have a set up that allows them to pump out music w/o wasting time.
 
They are often quite reluctant to learn a new DAW, because, well, they're busy earning a life making music.
 
And why would they do otherwise? Logic, Digital Performer, Cubase already provide top notch solutions. Not only that, but these all have the one feature that Cakewalk couldn't care less for - proper notation. 
 
Other than that, unless you're offering something different, such as Live! or Reason, you're fighting an uphill battle.
 
The only people I've seen who had interest for something like Sonar on Mac are ex-Sonar users now working on Mac. That's the only semi-serious potential market I see.
 
Think about it... MOTU, who's always been 100% Mac since over 30 years ago, with zero interest in PC finally made the move and came up with a PC version of Digital Performer last year. What this tells me is that the Mac market just wasn't enough anymore.
 
Cakewalk is doing the right thing. The rich and famous market presents virtually no opportunity for them. 
 
 
 
 

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Re: Make a mac version 2015/03/30 14:35:10 (permalink)
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Re: Make a mac version 2015/03/30 15:45:03 (permalink)
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-1 for Mac
 
It would serve me no purpose and probably diminish the effort on my Windows based DAW for at least 3 years while it was developed.
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Re: Make a mac version 2015/03/30 15:50:51 (permalink)
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Rain has the right of it.
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Re: Make a mac version 2015/03/30 23:30:14 (permalink)
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Makes me laugh... I can't afford another PC nor will I run bootcamp so will somebody else spend hundreds of thousands of dollars (might even be million) developing and supporting software for me so I don't have to buy a new PC. Dream on!

And when people are making reasonable points (nothing to do with PC vs Mac tribalism) they are deemed 'arguementative'. And yet the initial poster makes a point that a Mac version would make Sonar more 'credible' as though developing for the PC isn't.

Even if production began today your Mac will be on it's last legs before it got released. However it will not happen.
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Re: Make a mac version 2015/03/31 23:54:33 (permalink)
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I can't get bootcamp to work actually.no need to be snippy about it,This is a forum and i have the right to say my opinion,geez.
No not saying pc has no credibility,it would open it to more users,thats all.I get it not gunna happen.I just want o make my music on sonar on my fastest computer which is a mac,thats it,I personally like them the same,the computer and the OS is just a tool to make MUSIC.I don't love one over the other.
Ok then I will let it go,it was just an idea,sorry for even posting it
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Re: Make a mac version 2015/04/01 00:22:25 (permalink)
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Nobody said you shouldn't have an opinion?. Nobody I hope is saying I shouldn't have an opinion either? Nobody is saying PC's are better than Macs. Not one person so I'm not understanding why you keep saying you are tired of arguments, there are none here. I'm not sure opening it to a few more people adds 'credibility' which is what you said (not me) so apologies for me taking you up on it. Credibility is about the product itself not the environment it runs on for me (which is what you were implying earlier).

As far as just a tool to make music, yes you have the right idea. I think everybody was seeing it from that perspective though weren't they? Choose the tool that is right for you, Macs are good as well as PC's. My advice is get some advice in Sonar forums about bootcamp. Nobody is going to bash a Mac user.
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Re: Make a mac version 2015/04/01 09:30:31 (permalink)
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-1 for Mac
 
It would serve me no purpose and probably diminish the effort on my Windows based DAW for at least 3 years while it was developed.



 


I'm with bapsi on this one. There are plenty enough issues to sort out on the pc platform let alone divert precious programming time to what would be a completely separate product line.

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Re: Make a mac version 2015/04/01 10:13:30 (permalink)
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I don't think anyone has trashed mac.  Just seems like a lot of work and expense for very little expected gain. Logic dropping price to $225 is a serious game changer. Rain pretty much summed it up. Fl studio is taking much less of a risk going mac because there is no established mac program dominating its niche already.  
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Re: Make a mac version 2015/04/03 23:27:47 (permalink)
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Nobody said you shouldn't have an opinion?. Nobody I hope is saying I shouldn't have an opinion either? Nobody is saying PC's are better than Macs. Not one person so I'm not understanding why you keep saying you are tired of arguments, there are none here. I'm not sure opening it to a few more people adds 'credibility' which is what you said (not me) so apologies for me taking you up on it. Credibility is about the product itself not the environment it runs on for me (which is what you were implying earlier).

As far as just a tool to make music, yes you have the right idea. I think everybody was seeing it from that perspective though weren't they? Choose the tool that is right for you, Macs are good as well as PC's. My advice is get some advice in Sonar forums about bootcamp. Nobody is going to bash a Mac user.

Ok fair enough,it is the attitude that comes when someone suggests something others disagree with,I may be oversensitive.If I was I am sorry.I agree that the program itself and how it runs is more important than platforms,but I'm pretty sure more studios use macs than PCs,Now I could care less either way as long as the computer is fast enough.
I'm not really a "mac" user.I had never used or had one until last november,my wife bought it for me.I was excited until I realized how difficult it was to get sonar and all my plugins/samples on it.Sonar is and has always been my favorite DAW.
Maybe no one was bashing anything,but I often feel when I post here,or anywhere for that matter that people are way too argumentative and dismissive,maybe it is something only I have run into.
I will try bootcamp again,but I had sooooo much trouble with it,it really was frustrating and honestly I am not too thrilled about having to reboot to run sonar,then if I wanted to use a program on the mac having to restart again.Maybe I want to have my cake and eat it to.
I accept there will be no mac version of sonar,It is there company and they can do as they see fit.The whole thing about resources being diverted from windows users though is a strange reason not to make a mac version.I am assuming if they chose to make amax version they would have to invest money,hire more workers and grow the company,I'm not sure that would be a bad thing.Other companies seem able to do that without one platform getting jilted,but hey what do I know
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Re: Make a mac version 2015/04/04 00:14:07 (permalink)
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Hi-
 
I really don't like to do this, but based on this post: http://forum.cakewalk.com/FindPost/3192268
I have to vote 1, meaning: I "genuinely feel the Bakers time would be better spent working on something else."
 
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Re: Make a mac version 2015/04/07 23:54:04 (permalink)
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Hi-
 
I really don't like to do this, but based on this post: http://forum.cakewalk.com/FindPost/3192268
I have to vote 1, meaning: I "genuinely feel the Bakers time would be better spent working on something else."
 
I hate this voting system.
 
-Susan
 


Thats ok,your entitled to have your opinions and beliefs,it doesn't anger me.You were very kind about it,so thanks for that.I wouldn't want Cakewalks sonar to be negatively affected by the creation of a mac version.I was just thinking maybe a company expansion!:)New employees,more bakers,more updates and features and refinements for windows and a mac version.I ask too much I know.
 
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I love Sonar and have been using it for years. For the love of God please create a Mac version. You would increase your revenue tremendously. I can dream can't I?
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Re: Mac 2016/01/15 21:25:20 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby bapu 2016/01/15 22:14:48
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Re: Mac 2016/01/17 12:58:00 (permalink)
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What about a Pear Bob F ?...being both to use ?/...could be a good thing?...but...if we take my perspective...it is not a living thing either, if we take the machine worded naming for a Computer...So it is not important.....Might be not worth it in the end....Just my perspective.
 
keep the body and mind and spirit well...and you need not a computer...if you learn how to make music...all one needs is: to be in making it, and putting it to good works in the Garden!.
 
Best wishes...In the New...yet still holds lots of old...cost and debts in the trillions for things ...said cannot be?...But are a tainting!
 
Now think why would someone say it ""COST TOO MUCH""?
 
That is the trick of the tale....to raise up the cost onto the ones not doing what should be done freely.
 
So...Yes one can say: "go get a PC that works better"....than the one that does not....Yet a cost is also with that..just to keep it going...the old ones of Yor.
 
Why is the infatuation to make a machine make music, or work of the living Human bodied estate?...if one living body and mind and spirit towards doing is with us as living, in making music be of the mind and soul and spirit , with the body....?
 
Then Here I am pondering the answer....If one does the math...and knows the codex...and has the time to give....Then it cost nothing but to do it!.
 
 
And rest a sured...a child will do more than this!
 
 
Best cheers for the new age to come!
 
 
And it will be completely new....not holding any old or monsters in it....That might help reduce the cost with, which continues the monsters being, to finally be resolved....but it is not yet come?...Because we did not yet do!.
 
LOL/...Just my bent perspective....Seems valid....to the ""IT COST TOO MUCH""...""ONLY ANSWER""...Being A LIE!...Most believe in!..and so it does!!..until it does not cost.
post edited by Sir Les - 2016/01/17 13:15:11

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2.  USING MAC PRO, as win 10 has damaged 2 x99 systems 8.1 is also to blame for the final burnout trying to roll back!
 
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