Now that the thread has reached meta-level, perhaps it's time to end it?

Psychobillybob
The OP did in fact share a frustration, some people thought the best solution was to "not use Sonar to upload it" that was not what he asked, he asked if there was a way to turn it off so it would not do that...

 
Wrong. Actually, what he asked was:
 
"If there is a way to eliminate this, please let me know."
 
So the solution not to use SONAR to upload the file indeed eliminates the tag, per his request.
 

then people piled it on as to why that was not even an issue, again insinuating that the OP actually had a reason at all to complain, I found this less than helpful.

 
Apparently you forgot about the people who agreed. I even said "I do agree it's unnecessary for that link to be included." Also, William Copper thanked people for their support so apparently he thought some people agreed with him. Argue with him about whether he got support or not. A discussion ensued, with different opinions presented.
 

Regardless of how lauded you may or may not consider the folks posting here, the simple question of "can I turn this off" did not get dealt with until much later in the thread, and frankly the answer appears to be "no" (and in the process a lot of distracting bs was presented that had no relevance at all to the original question)

 
Wrong again. He did NOT ask "can I turn this off." He asked ""If there is a way to eliminate this, please let me know." I gave him a solution in the 8th post, which was not "much later in the thread" by any rational standard, and which was totally relevant to what Mr. Copper actually asked, not your inaccurate paraphrasing of what he asked. 
 

The fact that it only took three pages to arrive at this conclusion is a credit to the wonderful insight and technical know how of the forum itself, as usual your mileage may vary.

 
The fact that you cannot see what he asked for was answered in the eighth post speaks for itself. Yes, the discussion did evolve to cover the concept of tags added in general, as well as the source of where the tag came from, whether Cakewalk, SoundCloud, or both were responsible for the tag being added, and if there was a hack that would allow uploading from SONAR without the tag. If you find this distracting BS, that's your call.
 
After a problem posed by an OP has been addressed and solved (in this case, post #8), it's natural that a discussion evolves into other directions.
 

BobF
Craig - Here's something a tad more traditional if you like.
 
This article was prepared by Craig Anderton in his personal capacity. The opinions expressed in this article are the author's own and do not reflect the view of Cakewalk Inc. or Gibson Brands Inc.

You're hired   See my new sig.

The model behind Sonar is a highly flexible music creation and recording application for amateur and professional use with a something for everyone bias, and a purchase/user fee funding source. The model behind SoundCloud is a highly open music oriented web publication platform with a free version supported by advertising and user information marketing and cross-linking. It is easy to see who had the idea for this unfortunate collaboration, but somewhat harder to see what Cakewalk found attractive in the deal.
 
I found it a bit strange that automatic SoundCloud uploading was offered as a feature of Sonar in the first place. Inherent in the decision to do SoundCloud, rather than dozens of other similar websites, is that there was either an implied endorsement by Cakewalk or a mutually beneficial relationship, like the recent Gobbler introductory offer. I personally prefer my purchased software clean, and I doubt that there is enough money changing hands to affect the price so much that it would be to my advantage. I hope that Sonar will not become the Quicken of DAW applications with every window offering helpful links to tangentially related sites or services. If it wants to be considered professional it probably will not.
 
As to the criticisms of Mr. Anderton.  I doubt that many readers of this forum are unaware that he holds a vice president office at Cakewalk's parent company--so the source of potential conflict of interest is pretty well disclosed. I have a great deal of sympathy for the position he puts himself in by posting here. As a physician for a prepaid medical plan, I spent a career being accused of denying ill advised treatments because it would cost my employer money. Although the ethics of business are much much looser than the ethics of the professions, I have no reason to believe that Craig, as an ethical man, is automatically or unduly influenced by his employment status in every position that he takes. 
 
As a dedicated cynic, I am inclined to give short shrift to anything said by an employee of an interested party. But as someone who tries to be honest and fair in expressing my disagreements, I try to limit my comments to facts and defensible opinions rather than paranoia. Craig has been one of the most active and useful contributors to this forum, and we should avoid discouraging his contributions by playing the conflict card loosely.
 
And Craig, relax. Not every critique (however ill considered, inaccurate or unfair) requires a rebuttal. The truth is often best embodied by maintaining a noble silence.
 
 

slartabartfast
Craig has been one of the most active and useful contributors to this forum, and we should avoid discouraging his contributions by playing the conflict card loosely.

In regards to this particular statement +1.
 
People who play these types of cards are only out to achieve one thing, and that is trying to censor somebody. That is not cool. I don't care who a person is or was, all I am interested in is what they have to say. Whether I agree with them or not that is another matter.

Psychobillybob
Seems to me the only people capable of "censoring" around here are the mods, am I wrong?

 
Yes
 

Psychobillybob
 I have my own view of what constitutes distortion on a thread and I think I am free to express that opinion, how much others enjoy distortion is completely within their own taste, and like opinions is a highly subjective thing.

 
And here you are free to express it nobody is stopping you.
 

Psychobillybob
I do not find that anyone "censored" anyone else in this thread with the exception of the OP being subjected to a litany of distorted opinions about his using licensed products on Soundcloud without reading the EULA's or giving credit for them, a distraction at best to the original issue...

 
Well that's opinions... which may be unfounded... Tackle them then.
 

Psychobillybob
if you are going to suggest that pointing out someone elses affiliation might contribute to bias,

 
No I suggested it was attempted censorship (whether the writer is aware of it or not) . i.e. Branding somebody rather than responding to what they have written, and therefore suggesting it has less merit.
 

Psychobillybob
perhaps you could run that same code over the idea the said endorsee also suggested the OP might be running afoul of EULA's without giving credit where it might be required...

 
That's what somebody has written. You may disagree with what they have written, or they may simply be wrong but it was purely a comment on what somebody may have perceived the status of their software to be, not a comment about their their job for instance.
 

Psychobillybob
Censorship is a two-edged sword and suggesting that questioning anothers opinion/bias is "censorship" is perhaps itself a form of censorship, don't you think?

 
If I had specifically targeted somebody in my comment (which I did not so this is a theoretical) then still no. I was responding to what was written before not attempting to discredit anybody's status.
 

Psychobillybob
"People that play these types of cards are only out to achieve one thing"...in other words there are those who have opinions that we should never question...for some reason that kind of response does not dilute my original skepticism...

However I did not write " there are those who have opinions that we should never question", I wrote "People that play these types of cards are only out to achieve one thing".
 
That is an attempt to bend my words to make it look as though I have another opinion. That's censoring my words and then replacing them by putting your words into my mouth (which is worse). Nothing wrong with having your own opinion however.
 
{Edited my third and final comment}

Splat
Sharing media or information on other sites is pretty commonplace in apps, so expect more of it.. it's the way things have gone there is no way the tide is going to turn back.

slartabartfast
Jeeze, Splat. If evil becomes customary, we should just accept it?    Fröhliche Kristallnacht!
O.K. waaaay over the top. But the point is that we, as decent human beings, if not as citizens, if not as consumers (which appellation seems to have replaced the former two in moral currency) should be able to hold other people (even those employed by profit-seeking entities) to a higher moral standard than just Gimmee! Gimmee! Gimmee!
 
Whatever generation you hail from, you need to find a better compass than "everybody is doing it."  or you will find your children or yourself in the Rollerball (1975) world of the future. You may not be able to stop the juggernaut, but at least you can recognize it when it rolls over your toes, and stop complaining when other people say ouch.

You edited out my previous sentence, without it you make it look like I have no balance...

Splat
I don't see the issue, just don't use it if you don't like it. I never used gobbler (didn't like the idea) so I never installed it.  If I don't want to share anything via an app (for whatever reason) then I don't do it 

 
Let's put it this way....
 
If you don't want to use it you don't have to do you!!
I don't use it (in Sonar) I use another method equally as quick and simple in my view.
 
Now if others want to use it, just because you and I think differently should our views stop other people from using this facility? That would be a tad selfish would it not?
 
If you were forced into using this functionality then your opinion would be entirely valid. But you aren't forced into it there are other methods. The functionality is hidden enough that you wouldn't even realise it is there unless you looked for it.

You know I would respond but it's pointless at this point.
 
Let the censorship continue...or at least the faithful non-questioning of the experts opinions...
 
I have better things to do than quibble over linguistic phrases and implied EULA violations.

Psychobillybob
You know I would respond but it's pointless at this point.
 
Let the censorship continue...or at least the faithful non-questioning of the experts opinions...
 
I have better things to do than quibble over linguistic phrases and implied EULA violations.

Wrong...again. Nothing has been censored. Everyone has been free to express opinions, and in your case, misstatements of fact. And BTW you failed to point out any factual errors in what I've posted.
 
I presented a solution to what Mr. Copper wanted to do, which appears similar, if not identical, to SoundCloud's solution. If after my post he had simply said "Ok, I'll upload without using SONAR, but register a complaint with Cakewalk and/or SoundCloud to see if this can be changed in the future," the thread would have been marked "solved" and would have ended.
 
It was your post #16 whose negativity provoked a not surprisingly negative reaction. You're the one who decided to put a whole other spin on this:
 
"I don't really give a rip how he created it, it is lame, bs and troublesome that Sonar inserted something into the file...what other kinds of crap is this program doing? The more and more I see this kind of non-professional bs from the bakers, the more and more inclined I am to take my 15 years of being a faithful Cakewalk user and go somewhere else...this is unprofessional to say the least."
 
I have no problem with William Copper. I can tell by this thread he has a considerable flair for drama. That's consistent with the music he makes. I could even argue that it's important for someone who does want to make interesting music to have at least some sense of drama. Granted, he failed to show where I accused him of breaking the law because I never did, but I file that in the "Drama" folder as well.
 
The bottom line is I contributed a solution. William Copper contributed by researching the issue with SoundCloud, brining awareness to something that apparently no one had either cared about or noticed before, and inspiring extensions to the original premise. What you've contributed is self-evident.

fwiw ableton live does the same thing... couldn't get cubase to work...

couldn't get cubase to upload at all... :/ they use api calls to the website instead of a microapp, so that may have been broken on the soundcloud end.

Would anyone like some coffee?

Splat
I've had some. I'm rather pissed though because there is a stain on my table that states 'created by nescafe' the bstards!!!

Lol. You must be European!