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Re: Start Screen Enhancements This Month
2017/09/03 01:19:03
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Mixed emotions on this one "I'm with Paulo" on this one - Kind of like wanting or anticipating the Red Ryder BB Gun and ended up with a squirt gun... We will see what next month holds -meantime will continue to make music 
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Re: Start Screen Enhancements This Month
2017/09/03 02:30:29
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☄ Helpfulby chuckebaby 2017/09/03 18:56:08
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Personally, I like the start screen.
You only see the newest projects / or the projects you have "Pinned" to the start screen.
I hate Windows Metro apps start screen and everything it stands for... but the Sonar Start screen is nothing like it.
Its a way to open projects and a good way at that.
Its the same as looking at your file directory where your projects are,
only they are laid out in Nice colorful Icons instead.
Chuck, I agree totally. I'm still doing CD albums (for friends/relatives/anybody that will listen them) and personal enjoyment in the car. The start screen brings up my "Pinned" songs so I can work on any of them for a particular phase of recording. Walt
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Re: Start Screen Enhancements This Month
2017/09/03 10:26:47
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I'm aware that every Sonar user has their own workflow. I generally fire up Sonar when I get musically inspired, or when I'm ready to work on an current project. When that occurs, I'd rather not be sidetracked by anything not related to the task at hand. For me, music inspiration is fleeting. If I fall down that rabbit hole of free offers, tutorials, videos and such, there goes my inspiration with it.
With that said, I can see the start screen as a great benefit to new users and beginners. If Sonar users could have full control over start screen content and configuration (more than just turning it on or off). It would probably be more useful.
An even better idea in my opinion would be to move the start screen features to an Android & IOS app. This way, I could access all the content at my convenience, and get notifications. Maybe even tie the app directly to main program somehow. How cool would it be to Open a project in Sonar, from your Android or IOS device, or view project details?
To clarify, I don't mean, actually opening the project on your device, I meant using your device, to open the project on your Sonar computer.
I don't know about it being a useful tool for a beginners. How many projects does a beginner have anyway? We do have control over what is shown. I have a bunch of projects pinned to it. We can unpin them at any time. As to it being slow. I'm not sure about that. Clearly it takes a little time to display but no more time then having to go to the file menu and clicking on a recent project files display. As to being forced to look at CW advertising CW must have done a very poor job of that because I can ignore the Discover tab at will. Maybe on the system of person that mentioned this one is compelled to click on that tab.
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Re: Start Screen Enhancements This Month
2017/09/03 14:07:15
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My General MO is to update SONAR when the full release lands only after the early release has settled . I'm still on the older Start Screen. I happen to like the Start Screen feature in SONAR a lot . At first I thought it was my imagination . Then I ran a little experiment over here . I found out that The Start Screen in SONAR has a memory . Oh Yes it does ... Since I'm an absolute beginner  with only a modest 12 years of SONAR projects under my belt ... I wanted to make perfectly sure that what I'm about to share is absolutely correct information ... Most of the time I like to keep my current SONAR projects and songs local on my machine while I am working on them . It is not uncommon for me to even keep a few around for a few moths after the song has been finished . At some point all my SONAR projects will end up on external Hard Drives for safe keeping and storage . Also in many cases I have preferred to stream many of my larger songs and projects VIA external Hard Drives. Here's one of the nice features I love about the Start Screen in SONAR ... When I am using my computer and working on songs that are local to my computer the start screen will only show those ....even if my drop down file menu has ghost songs listed ... When ever I use my external hard drive where I have recently accessed and streamed some of my SONAR projects from ... The Start screen in SONAR will show my songs from that drive  how nice is that for a convenience ? PS , after accessing and showing my external HD tunes I purposely disconnected the external drive and reopened SONAR . Guess what ? The Start Screen only showed my local SONAR projects ...  Kenny
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Re: Start Screen Enhancements This Month
2017/09/03 14:48:21
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☄ Helpfulby chuckebaby 2017/09/03 18:55:38
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You can no longer start a blank project without having to name it and creating a folder. Or am I wrong?
I'm sure you'll be glad to hear you're wrong . You can type ctrl+N at any time, whether the Start Screen is showing or not, and start a project without having to name it or create a folder.
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Re: Start Screen Enhancements This Month
2017/09/03 14:50:51
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paulo
I guess we're all entitled to a few weeks off a year, so I'll be generous and consider this months update to be cakewalk's annual holiday.
Or be aware of how software works rather than be "generous," and realize that "light" updates usually mean something bigger is being worked on in the background. Not everything can go start to finish in 30 days...actually, not too many features can. SONAR's developer are not a serial interface, there's lots going on in parallel. When something's ready for release, it gets released while the other paths continue in the background.
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Re: Start Screen Enhancements This Month
2017/09/03 14:54:25
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Yes, I removed my CTRL+N autohotkey binding to handle the Start Screen. Nice to see this shortcut work the same whether running the Start Screen or not.
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Re: Start Screen Enhancements This Month
2017/09/03 15:38:11
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Start screen - Tab "Existing Projects":
It would like it if the start-screen ( - under existing projects - ) would as well show my 25 existing projects as icons, in the same way as the "recent" ones.
Instead of this it opens only the same dialog box as "File open".
Instead of a dialogbox the start screen should show the projects (as icons) in alphabetical order of the project folder, which is defined under "project file".
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Re: Start Screen Enhancements This Month
2017/09/04 17:01:14
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☄ Helpfulby Thedoccal 2017/09/04 19:08:35
I just had a chance to check out the Discover feature. I think it's quite helpful, especially because it seems like newer items populate the top. Out of the 15 options, only two relate to new products. The other 13 relate to knowing more about SONAR, obtaining the 30th Anniversary freebies, linking to videos, etc. The should be a boon to those wanting to know more about a particular update or feature.
When the Start Screen first appeared, I made it clear on the forum that I was not a fan. After the updates sped it up, I started using it all the time. The latest incarnation is an improvement. What I'd like to see next is the option for a list view of template projects, and the ability to remove projects from the recent projects list.
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Re: Start Screen Enhancements This Month
2017/09/04 17:52:14
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It's just a start screen. Who cares what it does or doesn't do. No idea why it has received so much TLC this year. If they want to work on menus there's lots of poorly designed ones to look into. For example, meters. You may want to change several meter options but the menu closes after each click and forces you to go through the process again and again until your finished. Now that is a menu that needs TLC. it's been a feature request for years! Sonar isn't a lifestyle product. I don't need to know what's happening in the community or what other initiatives Gibson Products is involved in. In other words, lay off the icing until the cake is fully baked.
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Re: Start Screen Enhancements This Month
2017/09/04 18:43:28
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I don't think it's icing. I'm in and out of different projects all day, and I've found the Start Screen really efficient for me (after a wobbly initial implementation a year or so ago). I think it's just that any given feature is going to be of varying importance to different users.
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Re: Start Screen Enhancements This Month
2017/09/04 23:19:23
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paulo
I guess we're all entitled to a few weeks off a year, so I'll be generous and consider this months update to be cakewalk's annual holiday.
Anderton
Or be aware of how software works rather than be "generous," and realize that "light" updates usually mean something bigger is being worked on in the background.
 Ok then, you are right, as always. I should have known better than to express my opinion without first consulting you as to what that opinion should be. Please accept my humble apologies for speaking out of turn on your forum. Oh wait...... What is that you just said about the latest update Mr Keith Albright - Director of Development at Cakewalk? Keith Albright [Cakewalk]
One factor in the update this month...
Several of us had vacations at different times during the month.
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Re: Start Screen Enhancements This Month
2017/09/05 01:03:45
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paulo
paulo
I guess we're all entitled to a few weeks off a year, so I'll be generous and consider this months update to be cakewalk's annual holiday.
Anderton
Or be aware of how software works rather than be "generous," and realize that "light" updates usually mean something bigger is being worked on in the background.
Ok then, you are right, as always. I should have known better than to express my opinion without first consulting you as to what that opinion should be. Please accept my humble apologies for speaking out of turn on your forum.
Oh wait......
What is that you just said about the latest update Mr Keith Albright - Director of Development at Cakewalk?
Keith Albright [Cakewalk]
One factor in the update this month...
Several of us had vacations at different times during the month.
You left out the part - I assume on purpose, because it was in the same post, so you must have seen it - "That said, we busted before we knew we'd be out for a couple of weeks. Some of us even checked up on things/did some testing while on vacation. Also, yes, we work on short, med, long range things so not all coding has to fit in < 30 days." You'll find out soon enough what the people who weren't on vacation were doing. Cakewalk activities don't come to a halt because a couple people go on vacation...as I've mentioned before, there are parallel paths, as confirmed by Keith. Of course you're allowed to express an opinion, with whatever inflection you choose. But, I'm allowed to say it's based on inadequate data...so let's circle back some time in October. You might find that the glass is half full instead of half empty
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Re: Start Screen Enhancements This Month
2017/09/05 18:40:00
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paulo
paulo
I guess we're all entitled to a few weeks off a year, so I'll be generous and consider this months update to be cakewalk's annual holiday.
Anderton
Or be aware of how software works rather than be "generous," and realize that "light" updates usually mean something bigger is being worked on in the background.
Ok then, you are right, as always. I should have known better than to express my opinion without first consulting you as to what that opinion should be. Please accept my humble apologies for speaking out of turn on your forum.
Oh wait......
What is that you just said about the latest update Mr Keith Albright - Director of Development at Cakewalk?
Keith Albright [Cakewalk]
One factor in the update this month...
Several of us had vacations at different times during the month.
You left out the part - I assume on purpose, because it was in the same post, so you must have seen it - "That said, we busted before we knew we'd be out for a couple of weeks. Some of us even checked up on things/did some testing while on vacation. Also, yes, we work on short, med, long range things so not all coding has to fit in < 30 days."
You'll find out soon enough what the people who weren't on vacation were doing. Cakewalk activities don't come to a halt because a couple people go on vacation...as I've mentioned before, there are parallel paths, as confirmed by Keith.
Of course you're allowed to express an opinion, with whatever inflection you choose. But, I'm allowed to say it's based on inadequate data...so let's circle back some time in October. You might find that the glass is half full instead of half empty
Yeah I left that out on purpose and I also didn't link to the post in question as I know from experience that you always have to have the last word with anyone who expresses an opinion that doesn't concur with yours, so I figured that I'd at least make you work for it. There is nothing " glass half empty" about my original post. It wasn't even a complaint. Neither am stupid enough to not realise that sometimes things are being worked on, but are longer term projects or simply just not ready yet. I expressed a view that the sparse nature of the latest update was maybe/probably due to staff holidays, which was confirmed as being an issue by the Director of Development himself, so clearly it was a factor or he wouldn't have said that. Yet somehow according to you that opinion is still inaccurate? Hey, here's a thought........... Maybe , just maybe, it's possible that occasionally someone who is not you actually gets something right.
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Re: Start Screen Enhancements This Month
2017/09/05 18:54:21
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☄ Helpfulby Zargg 2017/09/05 19:11:05
Paulo, you are not stating an opinion when you say "I guess we're all entitled to a few weeks off a year, so I'll be generous and consider this months update to be cakewalk's annual holiday."
You aren't their boss. You don't get to decide what they're entitled to. That's not an opinion.
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Re: Start Screen Enhancements This Month
2017/09/05 19:25:33
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RSMCGUITAR
Paulo, you are not stating an opinion when you say "I guess we're all entitled to a few weeks off a year, so I'll be generous and consider this months update to be cakewalk's annual holiday."
You aren't their boss. You don't get to decide what they're entitled to. That's not an opinion.
Why thank you kindly sir for pointing out the error of my ways Mr Self-appointed boss of the correct way to express opinions.
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Re: Start Screen Enhancements This Month
2017/09/05 19:31:30
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paulo
RSMCGUITAR
Paulo, you are not stating an opinion when you say "I guess we're all entitled to a few weeks off a year, so I'll be generous and consider this months update to be cakewalk's annual holiday."
You aren't their boss. You don't get to decide what they're entitled to. That's not an opinion.
Why thank you kindly sir for pointing out the error of my ways Mr Self-appointed boss of the correct way to express opinions.
It had to be done
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Re: Start Screen Enhancements This Month
2017/09/05 21:13:14
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Personally, I subscribed to the lifetime updates mainly because of the improvements the Bakers were bringing to the table on a monthly basis. Of course, I don't always use all the new features regularly, but some have drastically improved my workflow.
That said, this month's update is not for me. I prefer the addition of tools that actually help me arrange and sculpt my songs.
But, I assume they had a demand for this and as long as the majority of users find this useful, that's fine.
I'll just wait and see what comes out of the oven next month.
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