davec69
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Start Screen Enhancements This Month
Just wanted to hear others thoughts on the start screen enhancements in this months update? Maybe I'm missing something. The start screen was the first thing that I turned off in Platinum. Now it sounds like it's heading more in the direction of a Cakewalk storefront, I'll probably be even less likely to use it.
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Re: Start Screen Enhancements This Month
2017/09/02 02:45:30
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Yup, looks like advertising to me.
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Re: Start Screen Enhancements This Month
2017/09/02 02:50:28
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I too was surprised at the amount of effort they are putting into it...
...and talking about it as a learning tool, news, and demos? Very geared almost completely towards new users.
I turned it off immediatly as well seeing no benefit for me.
For the first time I've held off an an early release as i want to hear some reports... just in case. A bit of "fear" to be forced into using it crept into my mind.
I was recently bitten by another manufactirer's update that caused the loss of most important features and then discovered it was not a bug. The features will not return and there is no way for me to revert.
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Re: Start Screen Enhancements This Month
2017/09/02 04:06:50
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I also turned off the Start Screen as soon as it was implemented.
Sorry Cakewalk peeps...
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Re: Start Screen Enhancements This Month
2017/09/02 05:53:25
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+1 to list of people that haven't seen the start screen since shortly after it's inception. Not much of a fan of in app advertising either, so I can't see the 'upgrade' convincing me to turn it back on. On top of that the studio DAW is offline, so having the start screen active there just slows down startup.
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Re: Start Screen Enhancements This Month
2017/09/02 05:57:36
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☄ Helpfulby BobF 2017/09/02 13:50:03
When it first came out, I had turned it off right away like you guys.
But then I gave it a try and now I really like it. When they introduced the custom picture / auto-screen shot display it made it more attractive, but what really made the difference for me was when I took a little time, kicked out all Cakewalk projects templates and set up about 8 custom ones for typical project starting points and my external gear. Since then the start screen is the quick way into old and new projects ...
What I did not like was that the recent project list was rather short (I think they changed it now) and when you kicked out some projects from the list when moving/deleting the project files, the ones later did not come back (too short a list of recent projects in the background/registry)
With the DAW offline unless I update, I don't have to worry about advertising crap (I mean there is so much advertising on any screen these days that I meanwhile mentally completely filter out ALL of it and don't see it)
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Re: Start Screen Enhancements This Month
2017/09/02 06:08:00
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Start screen?. Just kidding, I know it's there, I just didn't enable it since its inception. Also, through the analytics function, the Bakers would have an idea of how many have it enabled.
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Re: Start Screen Enhancements This Month
2017/09/02 07:07:01
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promidi
Also, through the analytics function, the Bapkers would have an idea of how many have it enabled.
Probably not. At best really skewed analytics because you can can expect analytics to be turned off even more frequently than the start screen (I turn off any calling home that developers do not properly hide)
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Re: Start Screen Enhancements This Month
2017/09/02 08:00:15
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I don't see any difference accept it looks better. The Discover tab is better than how they had it before. This can be ignored and still use the start screen as always. Plus it lets us see at a glance what is new in the CW world. All at the users discretion. There is nothing intruding into our workflow. I don't see any problem here. Its cleaner and more sophisticated looking. CW has done a good job on it.
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Re: Start Screen Enhancements This Month
2017/09/02 08:26:39
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I'm with John on this. It's not intrusive, if you/I don't use that tab. Nice to see any news, if I so desire. All the best.
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Re: Start Screen Enhancements This Month
2017/09/02 12:13:23
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I guess we're all entitled to a few weeks off a year, so I'll be generous and consider this months update to be cakewalk's annual holiday.
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Re: Start Screen Enhancements This Month
2017/09/02 13:38:06
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On my old system, Start Screen takes some (extra) time to open... so it is still disabled.
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Re: Start Screen Enhancements This Month
2017/09/02 13:49:28
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yea the start up screen is ok...I don't think experienced Sonarites would use it much, but I'm guessing if I was new to Sonar it would be very helpful. I did like watching the video with updates.
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Re: Start Screen Enhancements This Month
2017/09/02 13:49:53
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☄ Helpfulby FCCfirstclass 2017/09/02 14:04:41
When it was first added, it was really slow, and I suspect a lot of people have never had it active since. It got significantly quicker quite some time back. It's worth giving it another chance if you haven't tried it for a while (even apart from the new update).
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Re: Start Screen Enhancements This Month
2017/09/02 14:01:37
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Totally agree John. I find it very useful
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Re: Start Screen Enhancements This Month
2017/09/02 14:06:30
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I like the start screen esp being able to store my templates and quickly grab what I want.
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Re: Start Screen Enhancements This Month
2017/09/02 14:28:45
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Re: Start Screen Enhancements This Month
2017/09/02 14:36:35
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The update to the Start screen I'd like to see is the ability to delete songs/projects from the recent list. If that option is there I've missed it. I know you can "pin" certain songs at the top, but just for cleanup it would be nice to have this option.
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Re: Start Screen Enhancements This Month
2017/09/02 15:01:09
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SMcNamara
The update to the Start screen I'd like to see is the ability to delete songs/projects from the recent list. If that option is there I've missed it. I know you can "pin" certain songs at the top, but just for cleanup it would be nice to have this option.
Yes, direct list management would be nice. In the mean time, there is a tool (scook?) available via the sticky in the Software forum. It's an ahk script with GUI that lets you selectively delete entries from the list. Right-Click Go Away would be easier 
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Re: Start Screen Enhancements This Month
2017/09/02 16:21:39
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I like it as well.
Found a couple of items in the Discover tab that I had missed.
I don't see any controls or options settings for the start screen (other than relaunch) - maybe I'm not looking in the right locations. I could see how this could be annoying to someone loading Sonar multiple times daily - maybe an option to only show once on a given day would be nice.
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Re: Start Screen Enhancements This Month
2017/09/02 21:18:14
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No need, no use for the Start Screen. I bypass it automatically.
I'm glad it's there to help someone.
Just not me. Ever.
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Re: Start Screen Enhancements This Month
2017/09/02 22:17:20
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A tip for those who don't use it - it offers convenient one-click loading of your previous projects!
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Re: Start Screen Enhancements This Month
2017/09/02 22:30:02
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You can no longer start a blank project without having to name it and creating a folder. Or am I wrong?
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Re: Start Screen Enhancements This Month
2017/09/02 22:37:07
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I'm aware that every Sonar user has their own workflow. I generally fire up Sonar when I get musically inspired, or when I'm ready to work on an current project. When that occurs, I'd rather not be sidetracked by anything not related to the task at hand. For me, music inspiration is fleeting. If I fall down that rabbit hole of free offers, tutorials, videos and such, there goes my inspiration with it.
With that said, I can see the start screen as a great benefit to new users and beginners. If Sonar users could have full control over start screen content and configuration (more than just turning it on or off). It would probably be more useful.
An even better idea in my opinion would be to move the start screen features to an Android & IOS app. This way, I could access all the content at my convenience, and get notifications. Maybe even tie the app directly to main program somehow. How cool would it be to Open a project in Sonar, from your Android or IOS device, or view project details?
To clarify, I don't mean, actually opening the project on your device, I meant using your device, to open the project on your Sonar computer.
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Re: Start Screen Enhancements This Month
2017/09/02 22:48:06
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☄ Helpfulby RSMCGUITAR 2017/09/02 23:11:57
I'm still a beginner, I guess. IMO, iDevices would be a bigger distraction than a screen that presents options on startup.
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Re: Start Screen Enhancements This Month
2017/09/02 22:55:44
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BobF
I'm still a beginner, I guess. IMO, iDevices would be a bigger distraction than a screen that presents options on startup.
As a beginner, I could see that. As a seasoned Sonar user, I'd rather access that content while waiting for my haircut, not when I'm trying to remember that perfect bass line or melody, and open a new Sonar project.
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Re: Start Screen Enhancements This Month
2017/09/03 00:22:24
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☄ Helpfulby RSMCGUITAR 2017/09/03 00:24:21
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You can no longer start a blank project without having to name it and creating a folder. Or am I wrong?
You can still do this. Just go to " New Project" and click " OK" without entering a name. It will open a new project up.
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Re: Start Screen Enhancements This Month
2017/09/03 00:24:30
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Re: Start Screen Enhancements This Month
2017/09/03 00:28:08
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Personally, I like the start screen.
You only see the newest projects / or the projects you have "Pinned" to the start screen.
I hate Windows Metro apps start screen and everything it stands for... but the Sonar Start screen is nothing like it.
Its a way to open projects and a good way at that.
Its the same as looking at your file directory where your projects are,
only they are laid out in Nice colorful Icons instead.
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Re: Start Screen Enhancements This Month
2017/09/03 00:53:59
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BobF
I'm still a beginner, I guess. IMO, iDevices would be a bigger distraction than a screen that presents options on startup.
As a beginner, I could see that. As a seasoned Sonar user, I'd rather access that content while waiting for my haircut, not when I'm trying to remember that perfect bass line or melody, and open a new Sonar project.
Maybe when I get a little more time with Cake's software I'll see things differently
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