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Steinberg RND Portico Plug-Ins is OUT NOW!
http://www.steinberg.net/en/products/vst/rnd_portico_plug_ins/rnd_portico_plugins_start.html
 
 


 
 
 
FREE Trail Version!
http://www.steinberg.net/en/products/vst/rnd_portico_plug_ins/trial.html

Rain


You know you need a "trial eLicence" just to run the demo, right? 

As if having to register and to request your download link wasn't enough... If that's what you have to go through just to demo a product, I'd rather not imagine how it's like to actually do business with them.

glad you pointed that out, Rain.  those look really good - love the graphics and UI on them.  but I'm not going thru that hassle just for a demo.

$799, ha. Best of luck Steinberg. 

Rain

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It is a free TRAIL version.  You have to travel to get it.

Oh, jeez, is the elicence the same as ilock?  Or do I have to find another usb slot?

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From Steinberg's site:


"Please note that you require a USB-eLicenser to activate the license and start RND Portico Trial. You may purchase a USB-eLicenser from our Online-Shop or your local dealer (in case you already own another product with a USB-eLicenser, you may use this one instead)."


Personally, I already bought a computer, an audio interface, a midi controller and monitors just to make music. I don't see why I'd also have to buy a usb key to run software. What's next? You'll need to wait for a sales rep. to visit you and to unlock your product every time you want to use it?

Yes that's true. You need a Steinberg Key..
I have one. I have other products and License from Steinberg like Cubase and so forth.. I never liked the Dongle KEYS either..
 
 
Best Regards
Freddie

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Hell, Rain, I've got the iLok, which works.  I think they have the technology worked out.  But I don't see it saving the companies money, either.  Some kid will crack it before I get the legitimate copy, most likely.

Still, I've got RND hardware.  If the software even gets close, it is worth it.  Then I won't have to worry about turning on the ProChannel since I'll be using the Rupert's software. ;-)

Its sounds exactly as the hardware! Making of the RND plugins are introduced a revolutionary technology that enables to create highly accurate digital copies of analog hardware: Virtual Circuitry Modeling (VCM) technology. VCM was developed by an engineering group led by Toshifumi Kunimoto, a senior engineer who was also responsible for the first physical modeling synthesizers, VL1 and VP1.
 
VCM enables an ultra-realistic digital reproduction of individual components in analog circuits, such as resistors and capacitors. Besides modeling the functionality of a circuit and the interaction between single components, VCM focuses on an unprecedented musical simulation of analog sound qualities, including typical characteristics like saturation and non-linearity — subtleties that simple digital simulations can not capture.
 
http://www.steinberg.net/en/products/vst/rnd_portico_plug_ins/vcm.html
 
 
Best Regards
Freddie

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Hell, Rain, I've got the iLok, which works.  I think they have the technology worked out.  But I don't see it saving the companies money, either.  Some kid will crack it before I get the legitimate copy, most likely.

Still, I've got RND hardware.  If the software even gets close, it is worth it.  Then I won't have to worry about turning on the ProChannel since I'll be using the Rupert's software. ;-)

Fair enough and I totally get your point. 


In my case... I'm on the road for the next couple of years, and working on a laptop. Everything I decide to bring with me is carefully weighted and measured. The best option for what I do was a 13" MacBook Pro, which only has 2 USB ports. 
I use them for my MIDI keyboard and my audio interface. Which is all I needed, really. Though I realize that this limitation is a consequence of my own choice, I sincerely don't see myself opting for a different solution only to accommodate intrusive copy protection - which doesn't even prevent software from being cracked.

I realize I could work around the limitation by buying a hub. But, really... I don't support the philosophy. I bought Logic for this rig partly because they dropped the dongle. Hadn't they done so, I would probably have ended with Digital Performer, no matter how much I dig Logic.

Funnily enough, when Steinberg announced Cubase Elements 6 which doesn't require iLock, I considered buying it, just for fun. It was the first time in a very long while that I even considered any of their product.

Similarly, I just bought Waves GTR Solo. The deciding factor between Solo and the regular version was not the price, but the fact that Solo doesn't require an iLock. The way I see it, they lost an opportunity to get twice as much out of my pockets to re-inforce their copy protection scheme - which doesn't even work.

Freddie H

Its sounds exactly as the hardware! 

 
Best Regards
Freddie

Or more accurately, exactly as the one piece of hardware they modeled. Was it the best unit ever made. Purely subjective, IMO.

I agree that the plugs will no doubt sound outstanding, for no other reason than my personal belief Rupert would've never signed off on them if they didn't at least come close to his expectations/standards... but the damn price just puts them beyond my reach at the moment. Even if I had the necessary, disposable cash, I would opt for it's hardware counterpoint. The one advantage to the plugs being multiple instances. But this brings me back to a question I had in another thread. If Lexicon can build outboard FX processors that function as a plugin within the host, might we not start to see this also with outboard EQ's, Compressors, etc? I also hold Yamaha in somewhat high esteem for always maximizing the quality of their products at a reasonable price point. I think it's a good marriage and I would love the plugs, but, it ain't gonna happen for me... bummer.

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Zuma,

several companies have done that - UAD most famously.  But also SSL and TC.  I have the TC Konnect 48, which has built-in DSP.  Some very nice stuff (Reverb, comps and EQ).  I think a combination of streaming the audio back and forth from the hardware and the constantly improving CPU made it a losing option for the companies.  That is one reason why the TC 48 works well - the effects go w/ the interface.

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Ah, that would make sense. I knew there had to be something I was missing because it seemed too perfect. The ability to use a sweet piece of outboard gear as plugin within the DAW just seemed too good to be that simple. I think it's an awesome prospect though.

Yea, Fog, I haven't had time to watch it yet.  Mr. Neve is always worth listening too.  He is actually quite funny.  And knows his stuff, too.

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Fog


it's a good job I'm a customer of theirs / on their mailing list or I'd never have known

what happened to campaigning for 64 bit ?

lemme guess your doing infomercials for steiny..

although it's interesting to hear from Rupert Neve. on the site

Its already in full native x64bit...like 90% of all other professional plugins..
The only that comes to mind that still isn't are Lexicon PCM Native Reverb Plug-in Bundle, Sound Toys....and Dinosaurie Waves..(Pro Tools..Who cares?) 
 

 
 
Soundtoys website..
http://www.soundtoys.com/support/
Where is 64bit support?
It’s coming. We had to get the main version 4 release out the door first, and then we can look at 64bit and several other cool things.
 

I don't think them steinberg fellers understand their target demographic too well.  Unless it's Warren Buffet and Bill Gates.  Do they got a studio??

What I'd really love to see is for someone with that kind of credibility to finally start embracing the more modern aspects of sound processing which are now available.

Admitting that it sounds nice - as I assume it will - as much as I dig the GUI, this thing once again replicates a hardware unit. Wouldn't it be nice if all the Neves of this world started taking advantage of all the flexibility at hand and combined their expertise with developers to come up with things like FabFilter Pro-Q... Now THAT is an EQ design for an audio geek.

To me it's as if developers kept on recreating units like Tascam portastudios in a virtual environment, locking it to 4 or 8 tracks and disregarding all the modern editing possibilities. 

If anyone buys these send me your native files and processed versions. I have the real hardware, it would be fun to compare.

Hate to say it, but this will be cracked and all over the net just like the Lexicon bundle.  They need to lower the price to lower folks' temptation.