Over on gearslutz Steven Slate posted that this 1.07 was a "little test run"; he also said that he was testing the grooves and that he will post them "tomorrow".  Here is the link to his post there:
http://www.gearslutz.com/.ard/7437264-post554.html

yorolpal


Over at SSDrums.com he also bumped me back that he liked the idea of a stereo "flip" switch.  He's...at least...listening.  Kudos.

(Yes, Steven, I'm Doghouse Riley over at your place:-)

He ain't listenin' to me LOL.  I've tried a few times to buy his product and something goes wrong each time. 

So after the last time (today) I asked myself if I REALLY need this product.  The answer was no - so I just moved on and said to myself "Forget about it for now.  His loss, my savings" ;)

I honestly don't need another drum module/plugin/whatever, but I was gonna spring for it because SS is quality stuff, and I like contributing to the companies that are doing good stuff like Slate.  But life's too short to jump through so many hoops to buy it.  So Ce'st la sheet ;)

yorolpal


Still no "sync to host" yet either.  Sigh.

Hey yoropal:  Have you tried the 1.07 version yet?  Does it have the sync to tempo working?  I ask because others over on gearslutz are reporting mixed results, but they are using PT or Cubase or......  I was just wondering how sync to tempo is working with Sonar X1.  So have you tried the 1.07 version?


Cecelius2

Hi all !

First off sorry I have not been active on here for a while things have been crazy busy!

Happy New Year and I hope you are all well ?

Anyways.....

I am running 1.07

I have sync to tempo is working at this end  ..... 

It is a bit strange but if you for instance take a groove and audition it for instance Deluxe Grooves 44 125 Indie Rock - Chorus one.

If you play the groove in SSD-4 and change the tempo in sonar you are  it will not always change automatically ....

For instance set the Bpm in sonar to lets say 50bpm

To get it to play at 50 through sonar you will need to hit stop in SSD-4 double click Deluxe Grooves 44 125 Indie Rock - Chorus one
This should now be playing at 50bpm.
Then try for instance 150 you will find again this will not change unless you hit stop double click Deluxe Grooves 44 125 Indie Rock - Chorus one and then hit play it should now be playing in sonar at 150.

This has been my findings.....
Its a work around I find works and I am sure they will have it sorted soon :)

I am having a problem with the routing in Sonar X1c from SSD-4 though

In this instance I have taken the kick and sent it out on the first available mono output 9MN...
I have sent this to sonar producer X1c but instead of it matching up with the input 9 left mono as it would be its actually working with only 17 left...<BR><BR>

I should add the only time the routing is correct is if I make the output and input 1/2 stereo ....

I have no idea why this would be and it is the same with all other instruments that I have routed out to various tracks in my session its very random as to what each instrument will actually send to.

Thanks for your help

Kind Regards

Norrie

 Steven said to someone with this problem over on the SSD-4 forum

by Steven Slate » Sun Jan 15, 2012 8:11 pm Midi groove sync to tempo is WORKING for me, so if it's not for you, please send a ticket so we can examine this.
If you have a groove already loaded and you change tempo, you'll have to reload the groove since the sync starts for every new groove after new tempo is selected.

Norrie

Could anyone please check the routing issue I posted about above ?
I am unsure if it is just me haveing this problem or not.
Thanks for any help
Norrie

Ive not got as far as routing the toms yet but for some reason Kick mn9 is like you are also saying comeing back in to x1 on left 17....
Cant remember what the snare was comeing back in as though but it didnt add up.....
Norrie

Hi Carl
Thanks for that.
I usualy use mono for kick Snare hi hats and each tom. Stereo on over heads etc as I like to do my mixing in sonar.
I am right in saying though that SSD mn9 Should realy be 9 left in Sonar ?
Norrie

inaheartbeat


OK I am still on the fence about this purchase and the clock is ticking till my Platinum upgrade will expire. If I have to stop and restart when a tempo is changed then how is that tempo sync to host??? What if I automate a tempo change in a song? 

Also, Russ from GrooveMonkee has said that the Slate kits are not consistent in their tom mappings. This is totally bogus to me cause the last thing I want to do is to have to roll drum maps. I love the sound of Slate's drums but is it worth it to spend the $149 to upgrade to 4.0 at this point? I just want to use the groove's I have plus the one's that are supplied.

It seems like the people that are happiest are the v-drummers cause this was targeted at them it seems. If you are a keyboard player like me and not a real  drummer it seems like the product needs a little more seasoning. Am I wrong on this?

Ken

I was definitely going to do this deal, but have decided to hold off for a bit.


As I said earlier, I don't really need another drum module/plugin, and seeing how this sync issues is a bit on the fence, I'll just wait it out.

With the holiday buy-fever over, I think being less impatient about these purchases is a wise idea for me.

ba_midi

inaheartbeat


OK I am still on the fence about this purchase and the clock is ticking till my Platinum upgrade will expire. If I have to stop and restart when a tempo is changed then how is that tempo sync to host??? What if I automate a tempo change in a song? 

Also, Russ from GrooveMonkee has said that the Slate kits are not consistent in their tom mappings. This is totally bogus to me cause the last thing I want to do is to have to roll drum maps. I love the sound of Slate's drums but is it worth it to spend the $149 to upgrade to 4.0 at this point? I just want to use the groove's I have plus the one's that are supplied.

It seems like the people that are happiest are the v-drummers cause this was targeted at them it seems. If you are a keyboard player like me and not a real  drummer it seems like the product needs a little more seasoning. Am I wrong on this?

Ken

I was definitely going to do this deal, but have decided to hold off for a bit.


As I said earlier, I don't really need another drum module/plugin, and seeing how this sync issues is a bit on the fence, I'll just wait it out.

With the holiday buy-fever over, I think being less impatient about these purchases is a wise idea for me.

Billy I think I am with you on this one. I just want to make music not debug a product. I have so many choices that work well and I still have Slate in the Kontakt environment if I want the sound of the kits. Maybe something will change over the next few days but I am flabbergasted by the tempo sync nonsense. I have way more than enough new pieces of software to just learn to use properly. The last thing I want to do is to get down a rathole debugging a new product.
 
I give Steven and his crew a lot of credit for really trying to get things right so that bodes well. I just need to hear from people that are more like me and less like v-drummers that the product works as expected.
 
Ken
 

TheSteven

inaheartbeat


If I have to stop and restart when a tempo is changed then how is that tempo sync to host??? What if I automate a tempo change in a song? 

Maybe I'm missing something.  Do you build your entire drum track (i.e. by stringing together patterns) within your drum plug-in?

When I'm working with a drum plug-in I always have the MIDI patterns located within Sonar.
The only time I ever use tempo sync to host is when I'm brain storming and using the plug-in as a drum machine.
Once I've got something on 'tape' I then copy the MIDI pattern(s) into Sonar and then turn off sync to host. Then it doesn't matter what tempo changes I add, if I remove the bridge, etc..

I'm not critiquing just trying to gain some insight.  

...Steven  

I need the drum package going along in the background before dropping midi sequences. I have some idea how I want things to sound but I really need to audition things in advance.
 
So...that is me....Real drummers don't have this problem at all cause they just play. They ARE the sync to host ;-) I am just a keyboard player that is genetically rhythm challenged.
 
 
Ken
 

TheSteven

inaheartbeat


If I have to stop and restart when a tempo is changed then how is that tempo sync to host??? What if I automate a tempo change in a song? 

Maybe I'm missing something.  Do you build your entire drum track (i.e. by stringing together patterns) within your drum plug-in?

When I'm working with a drum plug-in I always have the MIDI patterns located within Sonar.
The only time I ever use tempo sync to host is when I'm brain storming and using the plug-in as a drum machine.
Once I've got something on 'tape' I then copy the MIDI pattern(s) into Sonar and then turn off sync to host. Then it doesn't matter what tempo changes I add, if I remove the bridge, etc.. 
Edit:
or stop, start, loop - the drums are always in sync because they're played by MIDI in the track.  

I'm not critiquing just trying to gain some insight.  

...Steven  

Speaking for myself, there are MANY times I load a pattern up in Maschine (or create one there) for example, and just want it to basically loop along for awhile.   There are many ways to skin this cat. 


But I think having the plugin sync to host is a feature that should be a no-brainer these days, regardless of approach.