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2018/05/23 03:26:31 (permalink)

Studio One V4

Already downloaded.  Can't wait to play with it this long w/e. 
 
https://shop.presonus.com...dio-One-4-Professional
 
 
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Re: Studio One V4 2018/05/23 10:30:49 (permalink)
You would probably work this out, but just one thing with the chord track. I have found on polyphonic instruments that the results are much better when first analysed by melodyne. The standard pitch shifting will give you artefacts, especially with abrupt changes.
 
All in all, pretty reasonable upgrade! It loads way faster for me than its predecessor.

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Re: Studio One V4 2018/05/23 12:34:15 (permalink)
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You would probably work this out, but just one thing with the chord track. I have found on polyphonic instruments that the results are much better when first analysed by melodyne. The standard pitch shifting will give you artefacts, especially with abrupt changes.
 
All in all, pretty reasonable upgrade! It loads way faster for me than its predecessor.


Good to know.  They'll probably address any shortcomings in future small iterations (e.g. 4.1, 4.2).  Enjoy!
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Re: Studio One V4 2018/05/23 14:44:53 (permalink)
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... They'll probably address any shortcomings in future small iterations (e.g. 4.1, 4.2).  Enjoy!



Yeah, I'm going to wait for Black Friday to upgrade. I figure there should be at least a couple updates out by then.

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Re: Studio One V4 2018/05/23 17:31:40 (permalink)
just bought 3.5 !!
 
LOL
 
wont be springing for anything new again for a long time.
 
i just recently updated from sonar 6 PE!
 
 

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Re: Studio One V4 2018/05/23 18:22:32 (permalink)
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just bought 3.5 !!
 LOL
 wont be springing for anything new again for a long time.
i just recently updated from sonar 6 PE!
 



When did you Buy 3.5?
If you recently registered it I bet 4.0 will be in your Presonus account.

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Re: Studio One V4 2018/05/23 18:53:25 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby dubdisciple 2018/05/23 20:00:37
  1. Chord Track
  2. Full Sampler
  3. ARA 2
  4. Pad base drum sampler etc
I notice these are popular feature requests for Sonar. Hmn.... Think the ship jumpers (no offense) may have had a bit of an influence on this?
 
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Re: Studio One V4 2018/05/23 19:08:17 (permalink)
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batsbrew
just bought 3.5 !!
 LOL
 wont be springing for anything new again for a long time.
i just recently updated from sonar 6 PE!
 



When did you Buy 3.5?
If you recently registered it I bet 4.0 will be in your Presonus account.


thanks for the headsup,
but it's not there as an option.
 
i bought back in late february, but didn't install until april.

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Re: Studio One V4 2018/05/23 19:26:29 (permalink)
I'd contact them and plead your case :)
 
I brought Version 3.5 during the sale from JRRshop but didn't register until yesterday. This morning version 4 is in my account.

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Re: Studio One V4 2018/05/23 20:01:32 (permalink)
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  1. Chord Track
  2. Full Sampler
  3. ARA 2
  4. Pad base drum sampler etc
I notice these are popular feature requests for Sonar. Hmn.... Think the ship jumpers (no offense) may have had a bit of an influence on this?
 


I think others were asking before.  They were pleasant surprises though
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Re: Studio One V4 2018/05/24 00:24:01 (permalink)
Chord Data is part of ARA2 plans, so I expected this as Studio one was the first to adopt ARA's tempo mapping function. It seems ARA2 is delayed, so I wnder if they were holding out n the release of V4.
 
I am kind of expecting Chord Tracks to be part of Cake's Official release,  especially if it coincides with ARA2
 

 
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Re: Studio One V4 2018/05/24 06:07:31 (permalink)
One of the bittersweet things about such an upgrade is these are all things Cakewalk could have had a head start on. With that said, cakewalk can do one thing for now that studio one can’t as far as step sequencer, jump back and forth between prv and step sequencer
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Re: Studio One V4 2018/05/24 10:06:44 (permalink)
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Chord Data is part of ARA2 plans, so I expected this as Studio one was the first to adopt ARA's tempo mapping function. It seems ARA2 is delayed, so I wnder if they were holding out n the release of V4.
 
I am kind of expecting Chord Tracks to be part of Cake's Official release,  especially if it coincides with ARA2
 


How do you mean “Cake’s official release.”?

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Re: Studio One V4 2018/05/24 10:28:47 (permalink)
It's still in the 'Early Access' Phase at the moment.
 
https://cakewalk.bandlab.com/
 
http://forum.cakewalk.com/FindPost/3755207

 
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Re: Studio One V4 2018/05/24 14:29:59 (permalink)
Did they update the manual for version 4? They missed adding several serious updates to the version 3 manual.

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Re: Studio One V4 2018/05/24 17:22:06 (permalink)
The manual that installs for use from within SO is completely up-to-date.  It was also kept up-to-date for V3.
 
The PDF is a different story and prolly what you're referring to.  The Quick Start PDF is the only PDF manual for V4 ... for now anyway, not that I expect to see a new in-depth PDF.

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Re: Studio One V4 2018/05/24 18:14:37 (permalink)
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just bought 3.5 !!
 LOL
 wont be springing for anything new again for a long time.
i just recently updated from sonar 6 PE!
 



When did you Buy 3.5?
If you recently registered it I bet 4.0 will be in your Presonus account.


thanks for the headsup,
but it's not there as an option.
 
i bought back in late february, but didn't install until april.




IIRC, there is a 60 day grace.  I would contact PreSonus support and see if they'll do anything for you based on the install/activate date

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Re: Studio One V4 2018/05/24 19:14:56 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby RSMCGUITAR 2018/05/25 22:37:59
fresh101
  1. Chord Track
  2. Full Sampler
  3. ARA 2
  4. Pad base drum sampler etc
I notice these are popular feature requests for Sonar. Hmn.... Think the ship jumpers (no offense) may have had a bit of an influence on this?



Probably not, it's just what programs need to stay current with musical tastes. But forums are forums. If these had been added to Sonar, the Sonar forums would have been filled with people giving hosannas and kudos. A lot of SO4 people are complaining that the update is only for EDM fans and of no use to them  
 
I'm getting soooo tired of all the DAW forums being filled with people who act like what they want is more important than anything else, and if it's not implemented, they're going to move to another DAW and the company making it is clueless, stupid, and filled with idiot developers. I particularly enjoy the people who bash features they've never used.

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Re: Studio One V4 2018/05/24 19:57:05 (permalink)
Anderton, I concur. The added features directly address issues modern pop music creators have been begging for. Why would a company ignore such a lucrative base?
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Re: Studio One V4 2018/05/24 22:16:41 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby ohgrant 2018/05/27 18:51:52
off with their heads!!

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Re: Studio One V4 2018/05/25 00:54:22 (permalink)
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I'd contact them and plead your case :)
 
I brought Version 3.5 during the sale from JRRshop but didn't register until yesterday. This morning version 4 is in my account.


Are you serious ????  AAWWWEEE SHUCKKKSSSSS !!  Gottaaa Get Studio One 3.5

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Re: Studio One V4 2018/05/25 02:47:53 (permalink)
FYI, when you install it,it doesn’t overwrite V3. It actually acts as a new install but shares your configuration settings w V3 - shortcut keys and all. Nice.
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Re: Studio One V4 2018/05/25 10:29:09 (permalink)
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fresh101
  1. Chord Track
  2. Full Sampler
  3. ARA 2
  4. Pad base drum sampler etc
I notice these are popular feature requests for Sonar. Hmn.... Think the ship jumpers (no offense) may have had a bit of an influence on this?



Probably not, it's just what programs need to stay current with musical tastes. But forums are forums. If these had been added to Sonar, the Sonar forums would have been filled with people giving hosannas and kudos. A lot of SO4 people are complaining that the update is only for EDM fans and of no use to them  
 
I'm getting soooo tired of all the DAW forums being filled with people who act like what they want is more important than anything else, and if it's not implemented, they're going to move to another DAW and the company making it is clueless, stupid, and filled with idiot developers. I particularly enjoy the people who bash features they've never used.




Agree entirely,one forum member over on the Presonus website made me laugh when he said this,and i quote "people who cannot play chords should not be making music" in relation to the chord track feauture
 
It's staggering the self entitlement of some people,you couldn't make this s**t up 
 
 

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Re: Studio One V4 2018/05/25 13:11:38 (permalink)
I can't play chords on my sax or flute. Neither can most of an orchestra
 

 

 
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Re: Studio One V4 2018/05/25 13:45:24 (permalink)
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fresh101
  1. Chord Track
  2. Full Sampler
  3. ARA 2
  4. Pad base drum sampler etc
I notice these are popular feature requests for Sonar. Hmn.... Think the ship jumpers (no offense) may have had a bit of an influence on this?



Probably not, it's just what programs need to stay current with musical tastes. But forums are forums. If these had been added to Sonar, the Sonar forums would have been filled with people giving hosannas and kudos. A lot of SO4 people are complaining that the update is only for EDM fans and of no use to them  
 
I'm getting soooo tired of all the DAW forums being filled with people who act like what they want is more important than anything else, and if it's not implemented, they're going to move to another DAW and the company making it is clueless, stupid, and filled with idiot developers. I particularly enjoy the people who bash features they've never used.




Agree entirely,one forum member over on the Presonus website made me laugh when he said this,and i quote "people who cannot play chords should not be making music" in relation to the chord track feauture
 
It's staggering the self entitlement of some people,you couldn't make this s**t up 
 
 




It's even funnier considering that the CT feature doesn't generate anything.  It alters tracks that have already been recorded.  It's actually pretty neat.
 
 

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Re: Studio One V4 2018/05/25 14:00:24 (permalink)
How are you liking S4 Bob? I haven't opened Cakewalk or Reaper in quite a while, and I am just getting my head around S3.5. I'm at a point where I am just starting to get acclimatized and comfortable with a workflow, and S4 shows up. LOL. Not sure if I want to jump in or wait - I know a lot of users everywhere were clamoring for a chord track. Not anything I see myself needing - but I said the same thing about the arranger track and can't imagine working without it now. 

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Re: Studio One V4 2018/05/25 14:28:43 (permalink)
If for no other reason than the improvement in speed (v4 feels FAST compared to v3.5), upgrading was worth it.

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Re: Studio One V4 2018/05/25 14:38:36 (permalink)
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If for no other reason than the improvement in speed (v4 feels FAST compared to v3.5), upgrading was worth it.


I bought the S4 update when it was first available but it's sitting in my Presonus account. That's very encouraging though, but 3.5 is so efficient anyway. Did you have any of the license/activation issues John?



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Re: Studio One V4 2018/05/25 14:39:01 (permalink)
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How are you liking S4 Bob? I haven't opened Cakewalk or Reaper in quite a while, and I am just getting my head around S3.5. I'm at a point where I am just starting to get acclimatized and comfortable with a workflow, and S4 shows up. LOL. Not sure if I want to jump in or wait - I know a lot of users everywhere were clamoring for a chord track. Not anything I see myself needing - but I said the same thing about the arranger track and can't imagine working without it now. 




I'm liking it a lot.  I spent a good amount of time getting Reaper just so ... a ton to like there too ... but I'm more comfy with Studio One.  There are a few trade-offs, but overall that's where I've settled.
 
Ditto on arranger.  I'm not using scratchpad much, but arranger is pretty slick.
 
I just this am tried chord track out on a simple guitar track.  Chord detection was flawless and I was slack-jawed as I changed chords in the CT and had the recorded part follow along.  I see myself using this for experimenting with progressions quite a bit.
 
With arranger providing visual for sections, CT is even handy just to show the chords when it's off with nothing following.
 
Overall, S4 loads faster and feels a bit snappier.  Plug scanning is super fast.
 
IMO, there isn't a huge rush unless you're interested in the new BIG features - there are a lot of little things too though.  Plus, if you look at V3 history, they make some pretty major updates in the point releases too.
 
Watch their forum for a while and see how folks are reacting to it.  Same way we did with Plat here. 
 
Editor updates are nice, pattern editor, Import Song Data ...
 
Here are some vids - https://www.presonus.com/videos/player
 
 

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Re: Studio One V4 2018/05/25 14:45:03 (permalink)
Bob - thank you. That actually sounds awesome. Didn't realize you could use the chord track just for showing a chord progression, which in itself would be useful. As I mentioned above, I bought the upgrade to take advantage of the JRR sale price. Reluctant to install mostly because as I understand it, you lose access to S3 - so it's not like Cakewalk where you can simultaneously install two (or more) versions.... I really like working in S3 right now, but it might just be time to jump in and make it go..

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