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2016/09/26 06:39:26 (permalink)

Studio One and VocaLign ARA integration...

Seems that Studio One got ARA integration with VocaLign, any plans to do the same with Sonar?
 
http://www.kvraudio.com/news/synchro-arts-announces-high-speed-vocalign-ara-integration-into-studio-one-34656
 
 
 

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Re: Studio One and VocaLign ARA integration... 2016/09/26 07:35:17 (permalink)
You might want to take a peek at Sonar's Vocalsync ARA:)
 
https://www.cakewalk.com/...help=Region_FX.08.html

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Re: Studio One and VocaLign ARA integration... 2016/09/26 07:44:29 (permalink)
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You might want to take a peek at Sonar's Vocalsync ARA:)
 
https://www.cakewalk.com/...help=Region_FX.08.html




Are you serious?
Vocalsync it's a piece of crap compared to vocalign or (better) Revoice Pro!!!!
 

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Re: Studio One and VocaLign ARA integration... 2016/09/26 08:04:02 (permalink)
Kind of a harsh response, don't you think? Tenfoot was probably thinking that you weren't aware of Vocalsync, and was only trying to help.
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Re: Studio One and VocaLign ARA integration... 2016/09/26 09:44:11 (permalink)
Yes,maybe,but...Vocalsync it's really a toy compared to Revoice Pro!Sorry.

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Re: Studio One and VocaLign ARA integration... 2016/09/26 10:23:52 (permalink)
Seems that if you want this feature you will need to pony up $149 to join the party. In Platinum, it's part of the core program. That makes vocal sync much more attractive to me.  Your milage may very.

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Re: Studio One and VocaLign ARA integration... 2016/09/26 10:34:27 (permalink)
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Kind of a harsh response, don't you think? Tenfoot was probably thinking that you weren't aware of Vocalsync, and was only trying to help.

Thanks Leadfoot - true on both counts:)

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Re: Studio One and VocaLign ARA integration... 2016/09/26 10:39:55 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby Vastman 2016/09/27 03:48:02
KWILD
 
Are you serious?
Vocalsync it's a piece of crap compared to vocalign or (better) Revoice Pro!!!!
 



I have found that between vocalsync and meloIdyne I can pretty much fix anything I need to. Maybe your vocals, like your attitude, are just beyond help

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Re: Studio One and VocaLign ARA integration... 2016/09/26 11:40:55 (permalink)
LOL!
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Seems that if you want this feature you will need to pony up $149 to join the party. In Platinum, it's part of the core program. That makes vocal sync much more attractive to me.  Your milage may very.


LOL!

Im already into Sonar lifetime update program!
I'll try to repeat...im talking about Vocalign/Revoice ARA support not Vocalsync,not melodyne,not your favourite food!
Please if you don't wanna another harsh or sarcastic comment,please, don't post here!
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Re: Studio One and VocaLign ARA integration... 2016/09/26 11:52:23 (permalink)
While Vocalsync needs work, I find Melodyne to be all I really need.
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Re: Studio One and VocaLign ARA integration... 2016/09/26 11:56:46 (permalink)
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Please if you don't wanna another harsh or sarcastic comment,please, don't post here!

You might want to reconsider this attitude before posting here again.
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Re: Studio One and VocaLign ARA integration... 2016/09/26 12:01:06 (permalink)
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LOL!
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Seems that if you want this feature you will need to pony up $149 to join the party. In Platinum, it's part of the core program. That makes vocal sync much more attractive to me.  Your milage may very.


LOL!

Im already into Sonar lifetime update program!
I'll try to repeat...im talking about Vocalign/Revoice ARA support not Vocalsync,not melodyne,not your favourite food!
Please if you don't wanna another harsh or sarcastic comment,please, don't post here!
Thanx.



I'd say if YOU want to post harsh or sarcastic comments, do it elsewhere.

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Re: Studio One and VocaLign ARA integration... 2016/09/26 12:11:57 (permalink)
I could be wrong but I thought that if a DAW supports ARA then any plugin that uses it is automatically supported with no additional development needed, no?
 
What good is ARA if the host developer still has to do a bunch customization to integrate every new plugin that uses it?
 
 
 
 

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Re: Studio One and VocaLign ARA integration... 2016/09/26 12:17:46 (permalink)
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I could be wrong but I thought that if a DAW supports ARA then any plugin that uses it is automatically supported with no additional development needed, no?
 
What good is ARA if the host developer still has to do a bunch customization to integrate every new plugin that uses it?
 
 



 
Yep,i think the same but i suppose that every DAW need also some particular tweaks in the ARA implementation (take a look to melodyne, in the past  the Sonar implementation got problems not appearing in Studio One).

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Re: Studio One and VocaLign ARA integration... 2016/09/26 13:04:20 (permalink)
Looking at the history of the development of ARA it was begun by Celemony then joined by Presonus. As other companies were invited aboard, Cakewalk came on board and along with Celemony took it to much deeper level of communication. This deeper integration in Sonar, opened up more possibilities with Meleodyne even more so than Presonus and others. This opened the door for Cakewalk to develop other ARA aware plugins like VocalSync and Drum Replacer.
If Vocalign is ARA compatible then Sonar should be able to extract the same benefits that Presonas gained.
ARA is a standard like VST3. Just like VST various hosts implement it to a greater or lesser degree.

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Re: Studio One and VocaLign ARA integration... 2016/09/26 13:29:40 (permalink)
   I just spent an hour or so watching videos on the Revoice Pro website. It seems like a very cool, powerful program. I don't, however, see anything it can do that can't be done with Melodyne Studio and SONAR.
   So Studio One is now going to have a feature SONAR has had for some time. Good for them. Using a derogatory term for Vocalsync reminds me of a MOPAR guy that thinks everything that Ford or Chevy make is junk.
   Vocalign and Vocalsync do the same thing. Personally I think it's better to perform the parts correctly in the first place.
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Re: Studio One and VocaLign ARA integration... 2016/09/26 13:35:06 (permalink)
sonar is compatible, studio one is the only one with ara so far
http://www.synchroarts.com/compatibility/editors

just a sec

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Re: Studio One and VocaLign ARA integration... 2016/09/26 13:35:25 (permalink)
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   I just spent an hour or so watching videos on the Revoice Pro website. It seems like a very cool, powerful program. I don't, however, see anything it can do that can't be done with Melodyne Studio and SONAR.
   So Studio One is now going to have a feature SONAR has had for some time. Good for them. Using a derogatory term for Vocalsync reminds me of a MOPAR guy that thinks everything that Ford or Chevy make is junk.
   Vocalign and Vocalsync do the same thing. Personally I think it's better to perform the parts correctly in the first place.




You must try Vocalign or Revoice Pro and compare with Vocalsync to make a sentence...
Revoice got also a lot of other functions, and yes i know that "it's better to perform the parts correctly" did you know that the water is wet? :-)



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Re: Studio One and VocaLign ARA integration... 2016/09/26 13:42:12 (permalink)
Oh man, another one comes along every day.

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Re: Studio One and VocaLign ARA integration... 2016/09/26 14:03:27 (permalink)
You must try Vocalign or Revoice Pro and compare with Vocalsync to make a sentence...


   What would be the point? I have already invested in tools that do the job. Why buy another set of tools that do the same thing?
  (rant deleted)
   If you like Revoice use it; but I have learned (from experience) that pissing off the regulars on this forum will not get you anywhere.
 
 
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Re: Studio One and VocaLign ARA integration... 2016/09/26 14:41:01 (permalink)
Sonar has very strong ARA support. If a particular plugin isn't working with it you may post in the problem report forum and email CW to help fix the problem. However, no one has said they don't work. 
 
Because this is a peer to peer forum where fellow users come together to help each other it should be ones approach to thank posters for their answers even if those answers are not what one is looking for. A little civility will go a long way here.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  
post edited by John - 2016/09/26 15:02:38

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Re: Studio One and VocaLign ARA integration... 2016/09/26 17:06:06 (permalink)
A little civility goes a long way, true, but I'm pretty shocked at the people on here who (seem to?) pretend that CW VocalSync is anywhere near as powerful or well working as VocAlign. Surely not even the CW developers would presume that much, no disrespect to the products they make.

To me personally sometimes it feels like there's a little too much "fanboyism" on here. I love my Sonar but there are clearly additional products available that are higher quality than what's included. It's a fair question if the ARA implementation that StudioOne has realized with this product is available in Sonar, regardless of what (ARA or no ARA) products are included in Sonar. The argument "why do you need VocAlign, we already have VocalSync" sounds very similar to the argument two years ago "why do you need Melodyne when we already have V-Vocal".
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Re: Studio One and VocaLign ARA integration... 2016/09/26 17:25:48 (permalink)
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A little civility goes a long way, true, but I'm pretty shocked at the people on here who (seem to?) pretend that CW VocalSync is anywhere near as powerful or well working as VocAlign. Surely not even the CW developers would presume that much, no disrespect to the products they make.

To me personally sometimes it feels like there's a little too much "fanboyism" on here. I love my Sonar but there are clearly additional products available that are higher quality than what's included. It's a fair question if the ARA implementation that StudioOne has realized with this product is available in Sonar, regardless of what (ARA or no ARA) products are included in Sonar. The argument "why do you need VocAlign, we already have VocalSync" sounds very similar to the argument two years ago "why do you need Melodyne when we already have V-Vocal".

Why do I need SONAR? I still have my Porta-One.
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Re: Studio One and VocaLign ARA integration... 2016/09/26 17:33:31 (permalink)
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A little civility goes a long way, true, but I'm pretty shocked at the people on here who (seem to?) pretend that CW VocalSync is anywhere near as powerful or well working as VocAlign. Surely not even the CW developers would presume that much, no disrespect to the products they make.

To me personally sometimes it feels like there's a little too much "fanboyism" on here. I love my Sonar but there are clearly additional products available that are higher quality than what's included. It's a fair question if the ARA implementation that StudioOne has realized with this product is available in Sonar, regardless of what (ARA or no ARA) products are included in Sonar. The argument "why do you need VocAlign, we already have VocalSync" sounds very similar to the argument two years ago "why do you need Melodyne when we already have V-Vocal".


Finally someone that found that the real problem here is fanboysm (that's the cause of being "harsh").
Im here since 2003 and i use Cakewalk products from 1996, and im really satisfied with the last 2 years improvements of Sonar (i was
leaving it in favour of Cubase just some years ago).
Sadly, in the last years that place is plagued,more and more by absurd and sometimes demential fanboysm.
So i'd reserve to being harsh every time i get some of that guys on my posts.
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post edited by KWILD - 2016/09/26 17:55:46

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Re: Studio One and VocaLign ARA integration... 2016/09/26 17:40:56 (permalink)
So the question remains have you Kwild tried those plugins with Sonar and if so what were the results? 

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Re: Studio One and VocaLign ARA integration... 2016/09/26 17:45:56 (permalink)
Somebody just had a successful troll outing.

 
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Re: Studio One and VocaLign ARA integration... 2016/09/26 18:15:25 (permalink)
   Watching demo videos of a product is not as informative as using the product. So in order to gain as much information as possible I decided to try the demo of Revoice.
   Dongle...
   One of the reasons I've been using Cakewalk since it came on floppies is they don't treat me like a criminal. Call me a Fanboy if you want. I will not use the product if I have to use a dongle no matter how cool it is. And I would bet a lifetime subscription that SONAR will never integrate Revoice as long as it requires ILok.
 
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Re: Studio One and VocaLign ARA integration... 2016/09/26 18:15:44 (permalink)
Yes,of course,i've bought Revoice (and Vocalign before) not like the guys that don't know what they are talking about...
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Re: Studio One and VocaLign ARA integration... 2016/09/26 18:34:11 (permalink)
Is Revoice a different product from VocAlign?   If so, I don't understand why it's in the conversation.
 
Personally, I don't have any need for either one so for those rare occasions when I do need alignment, like others I do quite alright with Melodyne + VocalSync.  No "fanboyism" required, just calling it the way it is.
 
For those that have different needs, perhaps CW will work with the VocAlign folks at some point just as they did with Celemony.
 

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Re: Studio One and VocaLign ARA integration... 2016/09/26 19:22:08 (permalink)
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LOL!
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Seems that if you want this feature you will need to pony up $149 to join the party. In Platinum, it's part of the core program. That makes vocal sync much more attractive to me.  Your milage may very.


LOL!

Im already into Sonar lifetime update program!
I'll try to repeat...im talking about Vocalign/Revoice ARA support not Vocalsync,not melodyne,not your favourite food!
Please if you don't wanna another harsh or sarcastic comment,please, don't post here!
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